Windows Forum / Windows Me / General Topics / January 2006
Free upgrade from Me to XP??
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x - 27 Jan 2006 00:07 GMT Hi, I notice that Microsoft offer a free upgrade from Me to XP. I am in the UK, how do i get hold of this free upgrade? Although i appear to be entitled to it, the website just sends me round in circles!
ANY help appreciated.
Thanks
Shane - 27 Jan 2006 00:22 GMT Where do you *notice* that, then?
Shane
> Hi, > I notice that Microsoft offer a free upgrade from Me to XP. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Thanks webster72n - 27 Jan 2006 05:26 GMT With a bit of searching I found the source, Shane. It is: www.AllFreeGifts.com The trouble is you have to order or subscribe to something(s) to get WinXP Professional and who needs that?
Harry.
> Where do you *notice* that, then? > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > > > Thanks Mike M - 27 Jan 2006 00:35 GMT And where did you see this offer? What is the address of the web site? I suspect the circles you are experiencing might be the result of some sort of scam.
I'm unaware of any such offer having been made either in the UK or elsewhere in the world. You can of course purchase an upgrade version of either XP Home or XP Pro that is somewhat cheaper than the full version and requires the user to already own a qualifying product, the list of such products including Win Me.
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> Hi, > I notice that Microsoft offer a free upgrade from Me to XP. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Thanks webster72n - 27 Jan 2006 04:24 GMT Hello "x": You couldn't possibly believe to get a "free" upgrade of that caliber from Microsoft. They do offer a free CD with SP2 for WinXP though. I have already secured mine. You will have to order it from them. That offer I found most generous, especially since no shipping costs were involved.
Harry.
> Hi, > I notice that Microsoft offer a free upgrade from Me to XP. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Thanks Mike M - 27 Jan 2006 09:31 GMT Harry,
The free XP SP2 CD is a service pack and not the full operating system in a similar fashion to the security update CD that used to be available which incidentally included a copy of the free XP SP1 service pack as well as the then latest SP for Win2K. It was the release of XP SP2 that caused the security CD to be withdrawn as it was out of date for those running XP.
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> Hello "x": > You couldn't possibly believe to get a "free" upgrade of that caliber [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > That offer I found most generous, especially since no shipping costs > were involved. GregRo - 27 Jan 2006 14:43 GMT >Harry, > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >the security CD to be withdrawn as it was out of date for those running >XP. His windowsME key is messed up or somehow he unknowingly got a illegal version of WindowsME.
So windows advantage is offering a Free windows full retail.
I don't know if Microsoft is allowing UK to participate in the free offer.
For the free retail version of XP You need send Microsoft the windowsMe Cd and the receipt. Make a copy of the receipt for your records.
Otherwise if it the system.
Microsoft will give you a discount without the cd. You will need to sign some type of form and provide proof of purchase
Sorry, I don't have the address info for these
Greg Ro
Mike M - 27 Jan 2006 15:09 GMT > His windowsME key is messed up or somehow he unknowingly got a illegal > version of WindowsME. I suspect you have been misled What you mention can indeed happen for those running pirated versions of XP depending on the source of the copy such as when supplied preinstalled on a PC but not AFAIK for those running Win Me since Windows Advantage doesn't check Win Me keys..
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> His windowsME key is messed up or somehow he unknowingly got a illegal > version of WindowsME. [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > Greg Ro GregRo - 27 Jan 2006 18:53 GMT >I suspect you have been misled What you mention can indeed happen for >those running pirated versions of XP depending on the source of the copy >such as when supplied preinstalled on a PC but not AFAIK for those running >Win Me since Windows Advantage doesn't check Win Me keys.. When you download stuff it sure does. I could not download windows media player nine for windows 98se without validating.
I am pretty sure it checks all key from windows 98se and up. I was told this in the windows xp group as well the grc groups.
Plus it does not matter what version of operating system you send in. Microsoft will give you a free or discount version of windows xp home depending on the purchaser situation
Greg Ro
Mike M - 27 Jan 2006 19:25 GMT The Microsoft Download Centre installs the Windows Advantage control but doesn't use it when a user running Win Me wants to download certain components such as WMP9 that can also be installed on XP. The Windows Update site however does not use WGA for Win Me. The WGA mechanism makes no check of any Win9x key. So much so that Microsoft are in the process of removing the downloading of the WGA control by those using Win 9x systems to download such apps as WMP9.
> I am pretty sure it checks all key from windows 98se and up. That's not true, I would take anything written by either Gibson or his acolytes with a very large pinch of salt.
> Plus it does not matter what version of operating system you send in. > Microsoft will give you a free or discount version of windows xp home > depending on the purchaser situation That is simply untrue. I'll check again but doubt that Microsoft have changed their policy and are now doing this. Microsoft will only give free copies of XP to those whose pirated copy of XP was obtained as part of a pre-built system and not for those who downloaded and installed a copy from Usenet, Bit Torrent or the like although in the latter cases may sometimes offer a discount.
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> When you download stuff it sure does. > I could not download windows media player nine for windows 98se [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Greg Ro GregRo - 27 Jan 2006 20:45 GMT >The Microsoft Download Centre installs the Windows Advantage control but >doesn't use it when a user running Win Me wants to download certain [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] >copy from Usenet, Bit Torrent or the like although in the latter cases may >sometimes offer a discount. http://www.microsoft.com/genuine/downloads/faq.aspx Q: Do all Windows users need to validate, or is validation limited to particular versions of Windows?
A: Validation is required for all genuine Windows downloads on Microsoft Download Center. It is also required by the Windows Update service for users of Windows XP including Windows XP Home, Windows XP Professional and Windows XP Media Center Edition. All users can access security updates via Automatic Updates. Genuine Windows downloads are available, without validation, to customers running Windows 98, Windows ME, Windows 2000, Windows Server 2003, Windows XP Professional x64 Edition, Windows Vista, and Windows NT 4.0 with Service Pack 3. Genuine Windows downloads are not available for older versions of Windows (Windows 95, Windows NT 4.0 with Service Pack 2, and earlier), or non-Microsoft operating systems.
Greg Ro
Noel Paton - 27 Jan 2006 20:49 GMT Ye - you've just proved exactly Mike's point!
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> > http://www.microsoft.com/genuine/downloads/faq.aspx [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > Greg Ro Mike M - 27 Jan 2006 21:46 GMT > Genuine Windows downloads are > available, without validation, to customers running Windows 98, > Windows ME Thanks so very much for confirming the truth of what I said and demolishing your contention that Windows Advantage is used to verify keys on Win 9x systems.
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> http://www.microsoft.com/genuine/downloads/faq.aspx > Q: [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > Windows (Windows 95, Windows NT 4.0 with Service Pack 2, and earlier), > or non-Microsoft operating systems. GregRo - 27 Jan 2006 23:09 GMT >> Genuine Windows downloads are >> available, without validation, to customers running Windows 98, [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >demolishing your contention that Windows Advantage is used to verify keys >on Win 9x systems. Then why did I need my windows 98se key to download windows media player nine using the alternate method via firefox?
Greg Ro
Mike M - 28 Jan 2006 00:06 GMT > Then why did I need my windows 98se key to download windows media > player nine using the alternate method via firefox? Perhaps you misread what you were being asked. So once again just in case you misread it
> Genuine Windows downloads are > available, without validation, to customers running Windows 98, > Windows ME Source http://www.microsoft.com/genuine/downloads/faq.aspx
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GregRo - 28 Jan 2006 00:41 GMT Then why did I need my windows 98se key to download windows media player nine using the alternate method via firefox?
>Perhaps you misread what you were being asked. So once again just in case >you misread it >> Genuine Windows downloads are >> available, without validation, to customers running Windows 98, >> Windows ME >Source http://www.microsoft.com/genuine/downloads/faq.aspx http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=e0175119-9a5b-44c3-b1de -9b2a9aa6cff6&DisplayLang=en
Using Mozilla firefox. Still got to validate
Greg Ro
Heather - 28 Jan 2006 02:32 GMT Our of curiosity, why were you using Firefox to download it?? I use FF all the time, but download anything from MS via IE. That would make sense to me. So I would like to know why......and I would assume you could have avoided all this validation if you had used IE.
But what the heck, it's done now.
Heather
> Then why did I need my windows 98se key to download windows media > player nine using the alternate method via firefox? [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Greg Ro Noel Paton - 28 Jan 2006 08:54 GMT Q: Do all Windows users need to validate, or is validation limited to particular versions of Windows?
A: Validation is required for all genuine Windows downloads on Microsoft Download Center. It is also required by the Windows Update service for users of Windows XP including Windows XP Home, Windows XP Professional and Windows XP Media Center Edition. All users can access security updates via Automatic Updates. Genuine Windows downloads are available, without validation, to customers running Windows 98, Windows ME, Windows 2000, Windows Server 2003, Windows XP Professional x64 Edition, Windows Vista, and Windows NT 4.0 with Service Pack 3. Genuine Windows downloads are not available for older versions of Windows (Windows 95, Windows NT 4.0 with Service Pack 2, and earlier), or non-Microsoft operating systems.
( from http://www.microsoft.com/genuine/downloads/FAQ.aspx?displaylang=en)
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> > Then why did I need my windows 98se key to download windows media [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Greg Ro Mike M - 28 Jan 2006 00:33 GMT > Then why did I need my windows 98se key to download windows media > player nine using the alternate method via firefox? I thought I mentioned earlier that some downloads by Win9x systems from the download centre were attempting to verify the OS where the download could also be installed on an XP system. Microsoft have or are in the process of correcting this and if not already it is their intention that no WGA check should be performed on Win9x systems. Such checks would be somewhat pointless as MS do not hold the same details of product keys for Win 9x systems that they do for XP and later. It is possible that you downloaded WMP9 at such a time. If you had done so via the Windows Update site you would have not seen any attempt to verify your system.
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webster72n - 27 Jan 2006 16:46 GMT Does that mean my CD is worthless, Mike? I understand it is a service pack and not the full operating system. How could I find out about those *little details* you mention , were it not for this forum? 'm sure glad to be here.
Harry.
> Harry, > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > That offer I found most generous, especially since no shipping costs > > were involved. Mike M - 27 Jan 2006 18:11 GMT > Does that mean my CD is worthless, Mike? > I understand it is a service pack and not the full operating system. > How could I find out about those *little details* you mention , were > it not for this forum? 'm sure glad to be here. That rather depends Harry,
If you haven't yet bought a copy of XP then any new purchase will, or rather should, be of XP SP2, that is with SP2 included. However if you have a version purchased before the release of SP2, that is before Autumn 2004, then having the CD will enable you to upgrade XP to XP SP2 without having to go on-line and download the package which can be pretty big.
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webster72n - 27 Jan 2006 22:21 GMT Haven't bought a copy of XP yet, Mike, but when I do, it could well be one from before August 2004. If not, I know then what to do, thanks to the insight you have given me. Again, thank you.
Harry.
> > Does that mean my CD is worthless, Mike? > > I understand it is a service pack and not the full operating system. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > 2004, then having the CD will enable you to upgrade XP to XP SP2 without > having to go on-line and download the package which can be pretty big.
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