> Bill:
> Tks for fast response. Yes by tower I mean the box where the modo, cpu,
> RAM, HDD, etc are lodged. I know theres power since the green light is on;
Yes, same thing I get. Power is on, fan is spinnning, nothing else happens.
> whowever the second green light which I presume is like a visual thing thats
> telling me theres activity going on,
That's almost sure too be the disk activity indicator.
> is not on when the beast is turned on in
> the AM, not quite sure if it does the same thing after a long idle period.
If the machine goes truly idle, it will stop blinking. If I watch mine very
closely I can barely see it blink when ME is checking to see if a CD/DVD has
been put in the drive. It'll also blink occasionally when background jobs
which use the disk run.
> Cleaning the tower didnt do anything to improve, however it needed cleaning
> anyway. If thats the most likely fault, I'll well leave it alone...and live
> with it.
I did look into this before I decided to put up with it. It took a while to
track down that my specific motherboard was manufactured during the time period
when the bad caps were making it into various Asian vendors manufacturing
plants.
> Wonder if anyone else has the same problem, maybe one of the Gurus
> have come across something similar.
I've exchanged e-mail with four or five other people with similar problems,
other machines with the same manufacturing run of capacitors.
Here's an article about a recent (4/2003-3/2004) outbreak of the same problem:
http://news.com.com/2100-1041-5942647.html
- Bill
Mart - 29 Jan 2006 01:08 GMT
I'm sure that Bill may well have a valid point regarding the mobo capacitor
problems and an inspection is the best test (as per suggested url), but be
aware that these symptoms *might* also be caused by a failing Power Unit
(PSU).
If you can hear the fans, then you should also be able to hear the HDD('s)
spinning (covers off, perhaps). What happens when you boot with the WinMe
Startup (floppy) disk in the A: drive? Any activity? Green lights on the A:
drive? Similar delay? Can you 'Open/Close' the CD-ROM tray(s)
FWIW - A replacement/substitute PSU is 'usually' cheaper (and easier) than a
replacement mobo.
No answers, just pointers <g>
Mart
>> Bill:
>> Tks for fast response. Yes by tower I mean the box where the modo,
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William J. Leary Jr. - 29 Jan 2006 07:12 GMT
> I'm sure that Bill may well have a valid point regarding the mobo capacitor
> problems and an inspection is the best test (as per suggested url), but be
> aware that these symptoms *might* also be caused by a failing Power Unit
> (PSU).
Good point. I'd forgotten that I also replaced the power supply. In my case,
it wasn't broken or failing, but too small for the number and draw of the
devices it was supporting. This would cause it to often not start, even when
warmed up, start and hang very quickly, hang intermittently while running, and
so forth. When I sorted that out, the "hang on first power up of the day"
remained. As it happened, we were investigating a similar problem at work,
which was what caused me to look into it's relevance to my motherboard.
> If you can hear the fans, then you should also be able to hear the HDD('s)
> spinning (covers off, perhaps).
If you've got the covers off, you can also look for the CPU fan to spin up.
For the hangs I was having, the CPU, chipset, and graphics card fans were all
spinning.
- Bill
Mart - 29 Jan 2006 13:13 GMT
Bill wrote:-
> Good point. I'd forgotten that I also replaced the power supply...
Good time for reflection here too, Bill, I'd forgotten myself of an alleged
'failing mobo' where all 'correct voltages' were showing from the PSU
'proving' that the PSU was OK.
WRONG!! -- A substituted/replacement PSU cured everything. As soon as the
original PSU was re-connected - problems were back. That same mobo (with new
PSU) is still working quite sweetly, almost three years further down the
line - the original PSU went into the dumpster <g>
Let's just hope that Paul's issues are as easily resolvable.
Mart
>> I'm sure that Bill may well have a valid point regarding the mobo
>> capacitor
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PAT (Paul) - 29 Jan 2006 16:36 GMT
Bill and Mart:
/Tks for responses. Will live with it, since it comes on after few mins
sometimes 5, but hey I've got lots of time on my hand and can wait 5 for
mins. However if and when I have other troubles, I may think of having it
fixed. Can you guys tell me what is code at power on? I dont even hear the
one beep saying all ok, but get the POST sound.
Regards, Paul

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