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HELP!! WMP11 Renaming files and changing tags

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dcbpe - 16 Oct 2007 18:12 GMT
WMP11 keeps taking songs, which all had the right tags and correct filenames
when I used WMP10, and renaming/retagging them to a different artist.

For instance:

Faith Hill_Faith_This Kiss.mp3                    becomes    Faith Hill_Breathe_What's in It
for Me.mp3
Lee Ann Womack_I Hope You Dance_I hope You Dance.mp3        becomes    Faith
Hill_Breathe_I Got My Baby.mp3
Enrique Iglesias_Hero (Single)_Hero.mp3                becomes    Faith
Hill_Breathe_Breathe.mp3
Peter Gabriel_So_In your Eyes.mp3                becomes Faith Hill_Breathe_Let's Make
Love.mp3
Orleans_Waking and Dreaming_Still the One.mp3            becomes    Faith
Hill_Breathe_It Will Be Me (2).mp3
Randy Travis_Forever and Always_Forever and Ever, amen.mp3    becomes Faith
Hill_Breathe_It Will Be Me (3).mp3
Kenny Rogers_Share The Love_Through The Years.mp3        becomes Faith
Hill_Breathe_06_It Will Be Me.mp3

I have corrected the tags and filenames perhaps a dozen times, and WMP11
keeps changing them back, exactly as listed above.  It also changes the
composer and release date tags, but retains the correct track number and
album art in the "Pictures" tab under "Advanced Tag Editor".  However, WMP11
shows the "Breathe" album art in the main window.

The four mp3's  I do have from Faith Hill's "Breathe" album are in a
different directory and do not get affected.

Does anyone know why WMP11 is doing this, and how do I stop it?  I need to
move these songs to my wifes iPod Touch, so it's important that they have the
correct tags/album art.  I need to get my wifes music collection up and
running so that her iPod is ready for our wedding anniversary....

thanks in advance!
dcbpe
BrianinPortland - 16 Oct 2007 19:34 GMT
> WMP11 keeps taking songs, which all had the right tags and correct filenames
> when I used WMP10, and renaming/retagging them to a different artist.
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> thanks in advance!
> dcbpe

No answer here.  I have the same problem.  I am on a home network where
unfortunately the other computers have access to the shared folders of music
on the server so I can make changes I WANT TO to the genres, album art, etc.
from any computer.  Unfortunately, I installed Vista with WMP11 on my
daughters computer.  It accessed the entire library of 12,000 mp3s, most of
which I ripped from MY CDs and had labelled how I WANTED them - including
genres more meaningful to me.  Now WMP has changes all the art, albums,
genres.  I have songs that are now labeled from some greatest hits album, and
the LARGEST genres is "Trailer."  I guess MS thinks I am "trailer trash" now
and the music I listen to.

I am ticked off. 12,000 songs will take months to get right if I have to go
back to Music Match (an old version - not Yahoo) and change.

So how do you keep WMP from doing this?  I am not going to open WMP until I
know it won't corrupt my library again.

BrianinPortland
dcbpe - 17 Oct 2007 16:38 GMT
Wow.  I'm pulling out what little hair I have left on my problem, which is
effecting a relatively few of my 4000 mp3/wma's .  Album art is screwy on a
few other songs, but at least they maintain the correct tags and filenames.  
My head might explode if it were 12,000.

One thing I noticed after I posted...all of the songs which are being
renamed started out as .rax files.

A couple of years ago my wife purchased some songs, some of which she burned
to a cd.  I took the cd and ripped it because I liked some of the songs.  All
of the ones I'm now having problem's with.

When I decided to purchase my wife an iPod Touch for our anniversary
(today), I realized I needed to update the music library with all of the
album art (which I never bothered to use or keep for myself).  I also needed
to rip the rest of her cd's, but in secret here at the office otherwise she'd
know what her present was.  The fastest way to get it all done, supposedly,
was to use WMP11.

Big mistake.  I would have used iTunes (since the iPod only works with
iTunes anyway), but I can't load iTunes here at the office thanks to
draconian IT rules (I did load it at home without her noticing).  I was
hoping to have her library formatted and ready to go, so that I could just
copy and paste it tonight after I give her the iPod.  Now I'll have to
actually fix stuff, and that will take the fun out of it.

Good luck with your library...I suggest reading the FAQ on rolling back to
WMP10 or switching to a better software provider (iTunes, Media Monkey, Music
Match, etc).  Certainly don't run WMP11.

For myself, based on what I've read over the past 2 days, and the number of
problems people are having with WMP11, I'll be taking my laptop home and
loading iTunes away from the watchful eyes of IT.  Thank God for admin
rights....

To the album art problem, I've noticed one other thing...the files with
constantly changing album art are all in one directory.  I maintain my
library such that "albums" each have there own directory, and the 300 or so
"singles" are lumped in together.  The album art associated with separate
albums ends up stored in the separate directories, and remains static.  The
album art for the singles ends up in the "singles" directory.  4 or 5 singles
will always show the "folder" art instead of the correct album art (which is
there).  If I were to continue to use WMP11, I would probably set up
different directories for each single just like I have for each album.

But, if the wife is going to be using iTunes at home anyway, it's easier for
me to switch programs than try to reconfigure my library to correct
Microsoft's bad programming.
zachd [MSFT] - 31 Oct 2007 09:37 GMT
How did you convert the RAX Files to something Windows Media Player
supports?  That's potentially very relevant...

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See http://zachd.com/pss/pss.html for some helpful WMP info.
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> Wow.  I'm pulling out what little hair I have left on my problem, which is
> effecting a relatively few of my 4000 mp3/wma's .  Album art is screwy on
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> me to switch programs than try to reconfigure my library to correct
> Microsoft's bad programming.
dcbpe - 31 Oct 2007 20:07 GMT
My wife had burned 14 RAX songs to a CD so she could play them in the
minivan; I later ripped them to MP3 (thru WMP10) so I could listen to them at
the office.

They worked in WMP10 for months; it wasn't until I "upgraded" to WMP11 that
the file renaming frenzy began.

When I started this thread, the problem only affected the few songs listed.  
Eventually, it affected all 14 songs.  I've fixed the problem by deleting
them and getting new MP3's..  I don't understand what type of information
survived the RAX to CD to MP3 conversion, but I figure some audio wizard
must've designed it like that on purpose.

It's rather aggravating...my wife pruchased a few hundred songs thru
Rhapsody, but only burned the one CD before that PC suffered a fatal OS
crash.  After reinstalling Windows, RealAudio doesn't recognize the licenses
and won't play the damn songs.  So, we can't use the files we purchased, and
we can only use the one CD she burned...and last time I checked you can't
actually stick a CD into an iPod.  It's like we put cash in a pot and burned
it....same effect, without the aromatic burning scent.

> How did you convert the RAX Files to something Windows Media Player
> supports?  That's potentially very relevant...
zachd [MSFT] - 31 Oct 2007 23:32 GMT
Yeah, when you rip them from a CD, that's identifying them as that physical
CD.  You will never ever want to use Find Album Info on those tracks.  You
will only be able to use manual editing to update their data.  =\

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Speaking for myself only.
See http://zachd.com/pss/pss.html for some helpful WMP info.
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
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> My wife had burned 14 RAX songs to a CD so she could play them in the
> minivan; I later ripped them to MP3 (thru WMP10) so I could listen to them
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>> How did you convert the RAX Files to something Windows Media Player
>> supports?  That's potentially very relevant...
 
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