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Windows Forum / Windows Media / General Topics / November 2006convert wma lossless to wma
I have just purchased a Media Receiver only to find that all my WMA lossless files aren't supported by the player! However WMA is, I downloaded Windows Media Encoder but cannot find an option on there to convert to a file that is recognised by my player...I tired to convert some files using both VBR and CBR but neither seem to be recognised!!! Help I really dont want to have to re- Rip my entire CD collection!! OK after messing around with my Media Receiver I found the tracks and can play them..but the Album Info wasnt preserved so despite telling WME the output file info it didnt transfer....any Ideas on batch converting the entire CD colection as I can only get it to do one file at a time! > I have just purchased a Media Receiver only to find that all my WMA lossless > files aren't supported by the player! However WMA is, I downloaded Windows > Media Encoder but cannot find an option on there to convert to a file that is > recognised by my player...I tired to convert some files using both VBR and > CBR but neither seem to be recognised!!! Help I really dont want to have to > re- Rip my entire CD collection!! If you can tell us the name of this mystery DMR, I can probably find the manuals online for you, and tell you what audio formats it supports. Deal ? Cheers - Neil >OK after messing around with my Media Receiver I found the tracks and can >play them..but the Album Info wasnt preserved so despite telling WME the [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >> CBR but neither seem to be recognised!!! Help I really dont want to have to >> re- Rip my entire CD collection!! ------------------------------------------------ Digital Media MVP : 2004-2006 http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/mvpfaqs Hi Neil, thanks for your reply. Its the new DSM 520 by D-Link not too bad for the money $159 from Circuit City. However only has a TV interface so obviously the TV has to be on to navigate. I found this piece of software 'Easy CD-DA Extractor' which converts files in batch and have used this output format, wma 9.2/11 at 320kbit/s 44kHz it seemed the best quality aside from my original lossless and plays on the DMR, unless you could advise otherwise cheers Neil > If you can tell us the name of this mystery DMR, I can probably find > the manuals online for you, and tell you what audio formats it [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > Digital Media MVP : 2004-2006 > http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/mvpfaqs Yeah that sounds like an excellent deal ! For comparison the Roku M1001 which just broke here, was about £200 GBP, that's around $350 and it's an audio-only device :-o Soo much for EU pricing sheesh The product manual for the 520 says in supported audio formats: MP3 (up to 320 kbps) WAV & AIFF (AIFF files must be encoded in PCM format WMA (Does not support WMA lossless, WMA Pro) MPEG 1 and MPEG 2 - Audio using the file extension OGG Vorbis - Audio using the .ogg extension 320kbps should provide pretty good fidelity as WMA or MP3. However, noting that your player supports Ogg, you might want to do a listening test of the 3 formats at the same 320kbps to see which you prefer. That's not the same as formal waveform testing, but actually as you're the listener it's paramount that because of the different ways of compressing audio, that you choose one which *you* like, rather than which somebody else recommends ;-) You could have a look over the Ogg FAQ to find out more background http://www.vorbis.com/faq/ where you'll also discover that CDEx (a similar product to CD-DA but free) can convert to Ogg, MP3 and WMA http://sourceforge.net/projects/cdexos/ So with that tool to hand, why not spend an afternoon doing a listening test - encode say 3 sample genres to different formats at the same bitrate, make sure the audio is pretty challenging with lots of quiet and loud parts, different levels of bass, midrange and top. I think 320kbps is the top end for WMA files, and in WMP only up to 192kbps so the player isn't appropriate for encoding your files directly to the highest bitrates your device supports. The product manual also says "WMA Pro files are currently not supported" however that leaves the door open to a possible firmware update which you'd probably see here if it became available http://support.dlink.com/products/view.asp?productid=DSM%2D520 HTH Cheers - Neil >Hi Neil, thanks for your reply. Its the new DSM 520 by D-Link not too bad for >the money $159 from Circuit City. However only has a TV interface so [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] >> Digital Media MVP : 2004-2006 >> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/mvpfaqs ------------------------------------------------ Digital Media MVP : 2004-2006 http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/mvpfaqs Thanks Neil, sounds sporty for the Roku..over here its $179 which works out at about 95GBP !! maybe I should send you some over! Where in the UK are you? Im from Southampton but left 3 years ago for Hawaii... Will try the auditions and see which I prefer, havent heard about the ogg format but will see how it sounds! I have top of the range Denon audio and home theatre stuff so this should really show any short comings in any format.. thanks gain for your help cheers Neil > Yeah that sounds like an excellent deal ! For comparison the Roku > M1001 which just broke here, was about £200 GBP, that's around $350 [quoted text clipped - 74 lines] > Digital Media MVP : 2004-2006 > http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/mvpfaqs Oh haha Bristol Uk. That's a very kind thought but I've already got one - unfortunately the audio output went titsup last week (still under warranty) but it's a pain cause otherwise the thing appears to work just fine - all the EQ display, network, remote etc etc are fine - just no audio output and it's not muted :-p Yeah if you could let us know about your informal listeng tests it would be interesting to hear your thoughts. After posting the last message I realised that CD-DA also supports Ogg so you may as well stay with that tool if you're happy with it so far. PS - Denon eh ? Be careful before you upgrade WMP to 11 if you haven't already - several people are having problems with apparently "plays for sure" Denon receivers.... Cheers - Neil >Thanks Neil, sounds sporty for the Roku..over here its $179 which works out >at about 95GBP !! maybe I should send you some over! Where in the UK are you? [quoted text clipped - 86 lines] >> Digital Media MVP : 2004-2006 >> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/mvpfaqs ------------------------------------------------ Digital Media MVP : 2004-2006 http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/mvpfaqs I need to get some advice on where to get a decent cup of coffee in Bristol. On each of my visits there I end up with some dispirited boiling muck. I may have to resort to tea. > Oh haha Bristol Uk. >I need to get some advice on where to get a decent cup of coffee in Bristol. >On each of my visits there I end up with some dispirited boiling muck. I may >have to resort to tea. > >> Oh haha Bristol Uk. Well if you're in the area Mike, look me up and I'll sort you out with a proper pint of beer instead. The hot drinks as you've noticed are pretty crappy, but once it's been sterilised by conversion to beer it's usually OK (and tastes better ;-) Cheers - Neil ------------------------------------------------ Digital Media MVP : 2004-2006 http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/mvpfaqs |
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