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Experiences on Windows Media Monitoring Solutions

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Eric - 14 Mar 2007 03:08 GMT
We're looking for monitoring solutions, there's a few online that ranges from
sharewares to services that do it for you.

Does anyone have any real life experience with any of them?

Thanks.
Mike Lowery - 14 Mar 2007 15:40 GMT
Might help if you state your requirements.

> We're looking for monitoring solutions, there's a few online that ranges from
> sharewares to services that do it for you.
>
> Does anyone have any real life experience with any of them?
>
> Thanks.
Eric - 15 Mar 2007 02:45 GMT
Note: After I posted this message here in the general section - I saw the
server section and reposted there.  Didn't mean to double post.

Requirements is essentially to monitor both audio/wma and video/wmv streams
if they are available to the end user.  Microsoft DRM support will be a big
plus; and the ability to monitor geographically (have a monitoring station in
Asia, Europe, America, etc) that can ensure that the streams are available
will be helpful.  Ability to test various protocols RTSP/MMS/HTTP-ASX would
be needed.

Does anyone provide this service, or does wms/win2k3 provide this ability
thru snmp?  Thoughts, experience?

Thanks!

> Might help if you state your requirements.
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Mike Lowery - 15 Mar 2007 16:23 GMT
SNMP can be used to monitor the network packets/bandwidth as well as some
integration with WMS (somewhere there is information that documents this, maybe
in WMS Help?)

Note that SNMP will not tell you whether the audio/video is acceptable.  Only
someone looking at/listening to the streams can determine that.

> Note: After I posted this message here in the general section - I saw the
> server section and reposted there.  Didn't mean to double post.
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>> > Thanks.
Eric - 16 Mar 2007 02:12 GMT
Thanks Mike.  I spent an hour tonight and browsed thru the entire net and
here is the result of my research - just in case anyone else will need it.  
Essentially, there's 2 ways of doing monitoring of windows media streams,
either you run a 'software' product or you outsource it to 3rd party.  I have
yet to get some pricing comparison on this next week.

*** PRODUCTS ***

* Merucry (HP)
  - URL:
http://www.mercury.com/us/products/performance-center/loadrunner/monitors/media-
server.html

  - Client side monitor seems to do extensive stats report on quality.
 
* StreamPatrol.com
  - URL: http://www.streampatrol.com
  - Software to monitor windows media streams (unlimited streams) with
email notifications and UI.

* Streaming Media Monitor
  - URL: http://www.lightspeedcomm.com/software/streamMonDocs/
  - Used for monitoring IP *multicast* streaming media (fit for
broadcasters & webcasters).

* StreamTest.com (no longer available)
* StreamGuard.net (no longer available)

*** SERVICES ***

* StreamCheck.com (now keynote.com)
  - URL:
http://www.keynote.com/products/voip_and_streaming/streaming_performance/streami
ng_perspective.html

  - Provides a 'monitoring service'; screenshot suggests ability to support
flash, windows media and quicktime.

* Seeuhome.com
  - Provides a 'monitoring service'; $10/month/stream - 5 mins frequency.

* WebMetrics.com
  - URL: http://www.webmetrics.com/streamoverview.html
  - Service oriented monitoring; supports windows media, flash with email
alerts notification.

*** GOOD ARTICLE ***

* Measuring and Monitoring Streaming Media Quality
  - URL: http://www.streamingmedia.com/article.asp?id=8816

> SNMP can be used to monitor the network packets/bandwidth as well as some
> integration with WMS (somewhere there is information that documents this, maybe
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Mike Lowery - 16 Mar 2007 16:00 GMT
In looking at some of these products they appear to be nothing more than
bandwidth monitoring software.  One claims that it can detect frozen video or
dead audio, but doesn't show any screens displaying media info so I think this
too might just be b/w detection (static images or loss of audio results in lower
bandwidth, hence their claim.)

But static images and audio drop-outs are sometimes common in video streams
which may cause false alarms.  Also, static air (white noise) video produces
very high bandwidth levels so it's not likely to detect that condition.

I actually wrote a program that does multicast bandwidth monitoring and alerting
like this.  It can also restart the publishing point when there's a problem.

> Thanks Mike.  I spent an hour tonight and browsed thru the entire net and
> here is the result of my research - just in case anyone else will need it.
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Eric - 17 Mar 2007 12:15 GMT
Thanks for the info!  I have finally started my own blog and use this as my
first topic (work in progress) - Is your program available publicly?  I can
add it in if you wish.

http://ericjones.iblog.com/

> In looking at some of these products they appear to be nothing more than
> bandwidth monitoring software.  One claims that it can detect frozen video or
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Mike Lowery - 19 Mar 2007 15:31 GMT
No it's not, although I have a few others that are:
http://shootingstarbbs.kicks-ass.net/wmcontroller
http://shootingstarbbs.kicks-ass.net/wmsmonitor/about.htm
http://shootingstarbbs.kicks-ass.net/wmewebsite/about.htm

> Thanks for the info!  I have finally started my own blog and use this as my
> first topic (work in progress) - Is your program available publicly?  I can
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justbrickey - 28 Mar 2007 00:03 GMT
I am trying to simply place a graphic on my page to display when my church's
live stream is on air. The graphic will be one image when the publishing
point is started and another when the publishing point is stopped.

I was looking at your wmsmonitor program. How do you tie the displayed
status to the state of the publishing point. Are there instructions on the
web for doing this, in an SDK or what?

Justin

> No it's not, although I have a few others that are:
> http://shootingstarbbs.kicks-ass.net/wmcontroller
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flying_android - 31 Mar 2007 13:32 GMT
Thanks so much for putting up this list.

We are a small company (literally small, since there’s only 1 IT person –
me) and had been looking for an economical solution to monitor our windows
media streams/servers.  After around a week of looking at various options and
evaluating them, we have finally decided on StreamPatrol -- the ability to
monitor unlimited streams without additional cost, and the ability to run
this on multiple locations to test for geographical redundancy is really nice.

> > >> > Thanks Mike.  I spent an hour tonight and browsed thru the entire net and
> > >> > here is the result of my research - just in case anyone else will need it.
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