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mike_XP_Vista - 29 Apr 2008 11:32 GMT
I want to set up a standard user account for an adult and one for a child
(with parental controls set for the child as well).  When the adult opens the
email reader in Vista (is that Outlook Express or ??), I would like them to
have to sign in to their email account.  Same for the child.  Is that
possilbe in Vista?  

What I specifically want is for people to have to sign into their email and
not see everyone else's email before, or after sign-in (similar to the way
AOL makes you sign in with a screen name before you get to your mail, and
then it's only your mail).

Thanks,
Mike
Bob W - 29 Apr 2008 12:48 GMT
Basically, give them a separate USER ACCOUNT using the CONTROL PANEL and limit the access and password protect the adult accounts.  That way, not just the Mail program, but ALL programs (Mail, browser, files, IM's, etc.) are all content filtered.  For Parental/content control, I like McAfee's system.  If you are having trouble with WinMail in Vista, then you might try Windows Live Mail (free download from MSN/Windows Live).  Works real well and lots of features and customizations and a good companion for Windows Life Messenger and SkyDrive.
Bob, Still Old, Still Grey, And Still A Woolf

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 I want to set up a standard user account for an adult and one for a child
 (with parental controls set for the child as well).  When the adult opens the
 email reader in Vista (is that Outlook Express or ??), I would like them to
 have to sign in to their email account.  Same for the child.  Is that
 possilbe in Vista?  

 What I specifically want is for people to have to sign into their email and
 not see everyone else's email before, or after sign-in (similar to the way
 AOL makes you sign in with a screen name before you get to your mail, and
 then it's only your mail).

 Thanks,
 Mike
mike_XP_Vista - 29 Apr 2008 14:51 GMT
Thanks Bob.  Let me ask more specifically on one item.  Once I create the
Vista standard kids account, and set parental controls and set up their AOL
email accounts in the email program (not sure what it's called in Vista),
then they log in and start the email program... what shows up?  A sign in
screen for them to access their email?  The reason I ask is because under
Windows XP I use AOL and it is great but I'd like to get away from the AOL
software because it seems to really bog down the system while it loads and
runs all it's stuff.  I tried Thunderbird under XP and can access an AOL
account easily, but there is no sign in option for different email users.  
Once the kids click on Thunderbird, what ever mail I had left in the inbox
shows up.  Anyway, I want to make the kids access very clean and am hoping
for a way to do this in Vista... they sign into their Vista standard account
and they can only get to the things Parental Controls let them into, AND only
into THEIR email accounts.

Hope that clarifies my concern, and again, thanks for the quick reply.

Mike

> Basically, give them a separate USER ACCOUNT using the CONTROL PANEL and limit the access and password protect the adult accounts.  That way, not just the Mail program, but ALL programs (Mail, browser, files, IM's, etc.) are all content filtered.  For Parental/content control, I like McAfee's system.  If you are having trouble with WinMail in Vista, then you might try Windows Live Mail (free download from MSN/Windows Live).  Works real well and lots of features and customizations and a good companion for Windows Life Messenger and SkyDrive.
>  Bob, Still Old, Still Grey, And Still A Woolf
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>   Thanks,
>   Mike
t-4-2 - 29 Apr 2008 16:51 GMT
mike_XP_Vista;697718 Wrote:
> Thanks Bob. Let me ask more specifically on one item. Once I create the
> Vista standard kids account, and set parental controls and set up their
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> > > Thanks,
> > > Mike > >
Hello Mike,
Permit me to butt in. What Bob was trying to tell you is that give Each
person, children or adults, an account of his/her own with password.
That way nobody can read anyone else's e-mail without password to the
account. You can set up Parental controls to each child, even customize
it . The process might seem tedious, but it's a better security system ,
in my opinion.

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t-4-2

mike_XP_Vista - 29 Apr 2008 18:07 GMT
thanks!  So, when any person logs into their vista account, they still have
to log into the email account (whether it be setup for AOL, Yahoo, Hotmail,
etc)... is that right?

> mike_XP_Vista;697718 Wrote:
> > Thanks Bob. Let me ask more specifically on one item. Once I create the
[quoted text clipped - 72 lines]
> it . The process might seem tedious, but it's a better security system ,
> in my opinion.
t-4-2 - 29 Apr 2008 18:33 GMT
mike_XP_Vista;697940 Wrote:
> thanks! So, when any person logs into their vista account, they still
> have
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
> > > --
> > > t-4-2

Hello Mike,
I am a little inadequate in this subject regarding AOL and such. You
might want to post this question on Vist Mail section. A lot of experts
there to help you.
I'm from Canada, and I used Cogeco as my internet service provider
(ISP). I set up an account in Windows Mail with all the necessary infos.
Whenever I want to check my e-mail, I just click Windows Mail and that's
it. Windows Live Mail is the latest version, it's recommended. I use
both. Thank you.

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t-4-2

t-4-2 - 29 Apr 2008 18:56 GMT
t-4-2;697977 Wrote:
> > mike_XP_Vista;697940 Wrote:
> > thanks! So, when any person logs into their vista account, they still
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> and that's it. Windows Live Mail is the latest version, it's
> recommended. I use both. Thank you.
OH ! I know what you mean now. Each person has to log on to his/her
user account FIRST, before he/she can read the e-mails. After that just
click the e-mail account, in my case Windows Mail, and way it goes.

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t-4-2

Bob W - 29 Apr 2008 18:44 GMT
Yep, pretty much.  Same with the browser, and all other applications.  Using the control panel and the individual app properties, you can set the access level for all apps for all users, providing that you are the ADMINISTRATOR.
Bob, Still Old, Still Grey, And Still A Woolf

No trees were harmed in the sending of this message and a very large number of electrons were asked their permission to be terribly inconvenienced. And a party was thrown for them afterwards for being really cool about it.

Bob's Space - Home Page of the Olde Greywoolf

 thanks!  So, when any person logs into their vista account, they still have
 to log into the email account (whether it be setup for AOL, Yahoo, Hotmail,
 etc)... is that right?

 "t-4-2" wrote:

 >
 > mike_XP_Vista;697718 Wrote:
 > > Thanks Bob. Let me ask more specifically on one item. Once I create the
 > > Vista standard kids account, and set parental controls and set up their
 > > AOL
 > > email accounts in the email program (not sure what it's called in
 > > Vista),
 > > then they log in and start the email program... what shows up? A sign
 > > in
 > > screen for them to access their email? The reason I ask is because
 > > under
 > > Windows XP I use AOL and it is great but I'd like to get away from the
 > > AOL
 > > software because it seems to really bog down the system while it loads
 > > and
 > > runs all it's stuff. I tried Thunderbird under XP and can access an AOL
 > > account easily, but there is no sign in option for different email
 > > users.
 > > Once the kids click on Thunderbird, what ever mail I had left in the
 > > inbox
 > > shows up. Anyway, I want to make the kids access very clean and am
 > > hoping
 > > for a way to do this in Vista... they sign into their Vista standard
 > > account
 > > and they can only get to the things Parental Controls let them into,
 > > AND only
 > > into THEIR email accounts.
 > >
 > > Hope that clarifies my concern, and again, thanks for the quick reply.
 > >
 > > Mike
 > >
 > > "Bob W" wrote:
 > > > > >
 > > > > Basically, give them a separate USER ACCOUNT using the CONTROL PANEL
 > > > and limit the access and password protect the adult accounts. That way,
 > > > not just the Mail program, but ALL programs (Mail, browser, files, IM's,
 > > > etc.) are all content filtered. For Parental/content control, I like
 > > > McAfee's system. If you are having trouble with WinMail in Vista, then
 > > > you might try Windows Live Mail (free download from MSN/Windows Live).
 > > > Works real well and lots of features and customizations and a good
 > > > companion for Windows Life Messenger and SkyDrive.
 > > > > Bob, Still Old, Still Grey, And Still A Woolf
 > > > >
 > > > >
 > > > > No trees were harmed in the sending of this message and a very large
 > > > number of electrons were asked their permission to be terribly
 > > > inconvenienced. And a party was thrown for them afterwards for being
 > > > really cool about it.
 > > > >
 > > > > Bob's Space - Home Page of the Olde Greywoolf
 > > > >
 > > > >
 > > > > "mike_XP_Vista" <mikeXPVista@xxxxxx> wrote in message
 > > > news:6F1B9C88-16C1-4452-B463-B14EDCA054BA@xxxxxx
 > > > > I want to set up a standard user account for an adult and one for a
 > > > child
 > > > > (with parental controls set for the child as well). When the adult
 > > > opens the
 > > > > email reader in Vista (is that Outlook Express or ??), I would like
 > > > them to
 > > > > have to sign in to their email account. Same for the child. Is that
 > > > > possilbe in Vista?
 > > > >
 > > > > What I specifically want is for people to have to sign into their
 > > > email and
 > > > > not see everyone else's email before, or after sign-in (similar to
 > > > the way
 > > > > AOL makes you sign in with a screen name before you get to your mail,
 > > > and
 > > > > then it's only your mail).
 > > > >
 > > > > Thanks,
 > > > > Mike > >
 > Hello Mike,
 > Permit me to butt in. What Bob was trying to tell you is that give Each
 > person, children or adults, an account of his/her own with password.
 > That way nobody can read anyone else's e-mail without password to the
 > account. You can set up Parental controls to each child, even customize
 > it . The process might seem tedious, but it's a better security system ,
 > in my opinion.
 >
 >
 > --
 > t-4-2
 >
Bob W - 29 Apr 2008 18:42 GMT
Yep, exactly as he said.  BUT, as a paranoid parent, I would either NOT password protect the kids accounts OR I'd make sure I knew their passwords.  Yeah, I know, pretty underhanded and sneaky.  Welcome to the wonderful world of Parenthood in today's age!  Even with parental controls and content filtering, there are ways around them.  Even Nanny Ware isn't fool proof.  What is?  So some real time, personal, hand-on, sneakiness every now and then might prevent the world from reading about your child's adventures on the 11:00 news.
Bob, Still Old, Still Grey, And Still A Woolf

No trees were harmed in the sending of this message and a very large number of electrons were asked their permission to be terribly inconvenienced. And a party was thrown for them afterwards for being really cool about it.

Bob's Space - Home Page of the Olde Greywoolf

 mike_XP_Vista;697718 Wrote:
 > Thanks Bob. Let me ask more specifically on one item. Once I create the
 > Vista standard kids account, and set parental controls and set up their
 > AOL
 > email accounts in the email program (not sure what it's called in
 > Vista),
 > then they log in and start the email program... what shows up? A sign
 > in
 > screen for them to access their email? The reason I ask is because
 > under
 > Windows XP I use AOL and it is great but I'd like to get away from the
 > AOL
 > software because it seems to really bog down the system while it loads
 > and
 > runs all it's stuff. I tried Thunderbird under XP and can access an AOL
 > account easily, but there is no sign in option for different email
 > users.
 > Once the kids click on Thunderbird, what ever mail I had left in the
 > inbox
 > shows up. Anyway, I want to make the kids access very clean and am
 > hoping
 > for a way to do this in Vista... they sign into their Vista standard
 > account
 > and they can only get to the things Parental Controls let them into,
 > AND only
 > into THEIR email accounts.
 >
 > Hope that clarifies my concern, and again, thanks for the quick reply.
 >
 > Mike
 >
 > "Bob W" wrote:
 > > > >
 > > > Basically, give them a separate USER ACCOUNT using the CONTROL PANEL
 > > and limit the access and password protect the adult accounts. That way,
 > > not just the Mail program, but ALL programs (Mail, browser, files, IM's,
 > > etc.) are all content filtered. For Parental/content control, I like
 > > McAfee's system. If you are having trouble with WinMail in Vista, then
 > > you might try Windows Live Mail (free download from MSN/Windows Live).
 > > Works real well and lots of features and customizations and a good
 > > companion for Windows Life Messenger and SkyDrive.
 > > > Bob, Still Old, Still Grey, And Still A Woolf
 > > >
 > > >
 > > > No trees were harmed in the sending of this message and a very large
 > > number of electrons were asked their permission to be terribly
 > > inconvenienced. And a party was thrown for them afterwards for being
 > > really cool about it.
 > > >
 > > > Bob's Space - Home Page of the Olde Greywoolf
 > > >
 > > >
 > > > "mike_XP_Vista" <mikeXPVista@xxxxxx> wrote in message
 > > news:6F1B9C88-16C1-4452-B463-B14EDCA054BA@xxxxxx
 > > > I want to set up a standard user account for an adult and one for a
 > > child
 > > > (with parental controls set for the child as well). When the adult
 > > opens the
 > > > email reader in Vista (is that Outlook Express or ??), I would like
 > > them to
 > > > have to sign in to their email account. Same for the child. Is that
 > > > possilbe in Vista?
 > > >
 > > > What I specifically want is for people to have to sign into their
 > > email and
 > > > not see everyone else's email before, or after sign-in (similar to
 > > the way
 > > > AOL makes you sign in with a screen name before you get to your mail,
 > > and
 > > > then it's only your mail).
 > > >
 > > > Thanks,
 > > > Mike > >
 Hello Mike,
 Permit me to butt in. What Bob was trying to tell you is that give Each
 person, children or adults, an account of his/her own with password.
 That way nobody can read anyone else's e-mail without password to the
 account. You can set up Parental controls to each child, even customize
 it . The process might seem tedious, but it's a better security system ,
 in my opinion.

 --
 t-4-2
Bob W - 29 Apr 2008 18:37 GMT
Hmmm?  What you most likely used as a mail client (email handling application software) in XP was either Outlook or Outlook Express.  In Vista the programs is called Windows Mail.  They are all pretty much clones of each other.  All are POP3 type handlers.  What you do in one, should work the same way in the other.  There is yet another alternative - a FREE download program which is even more feature filled, Windows Live Mail (Companion to also-free Window Live Messenger IM application). Might want to look at that.  You should be able to set up the accounts the way you want.  But, for full PC in not just email, I'd still suggest you set up a separate user account for the kids, each, and password protect all the adult user accounts.  By that I mean the COMPUTER user accounts, not the email accounts.  Has to be done by ADMINISTRATOR user in Control Panel.  And again  I offer McAfee as having a nice PC module for all of the content.
Bob, Still Old, Still Grey, And Still A Woolf

No trees were harmed in the sending of this message and a very large number of electrons were asked their permission to be terribly inconvenienced. And a party was thrown for them afterwards for being really cool about it.

Bob's Space - Home Page of the Olde Greywoolf

 Thanks Bob.  Let me ask more specifically on one item.  Once I create the
 Vista standard kids account, and set parental controls and set up their AOL
 email accounts in the email program (not sure what it's called in Vista),
 then they log in and start the email program... what shows up?  A sign in
 screen for them to access their email?  The reason I ask is because under
 Windows XP I use AOL and it is great but I'd like to get away from the AOL
 software because it seems to really bog down the system while it loads and
 runs all it's stuff.  I tried Thunderbird under XP and can access an AOL
 account easily, but there is no sign in option for different email users.  
 Once the kids click on Thunderbird, what ever mail I had left in the inbox
 shows up.  Anyway, I want to make the kids access very clean and am hoping
 for a way to do this in Vista... they sign into their Vista standard account
 and they can only get to the things Parental Controls let them into, AND only
 into THEIR email accounts.

 Hope that clarifies my concern, and again, thanks for the quick reply.

 Mike

 "Bob W" wrote:

 > Basically, give them a separate USER ACCOUNT using the CONTROL PANEL and limit the access and password protect the adult accounts.  That way, not just the Mail program, but ALL programs (Mail, browser, files, IM's, etc.) are all content filtered.  For Parental/content control, I like McAfee's system.  If you are having trouble with WinMail in Vista, then you might try Windows Live Mail (free download from MSN/Windows Live).  Works real well and lots of features and customizations and a good companion for Windows Life Messenger and SkyDrive.
 >  Bob, Still Old, Still Grey, And Still A Woolf
 >
 >
 > No trees were harmed in the sending of this message and a very large number of electrons were asked their permission to be terribly inconvenienced. And a party was thrown for them afterwards for being really cool about it.
 >
 > Bob's Space - Home Page of the Olde Greywoolf
 >
 >
 >   "mike_XP_Vista" <mikeXPVista@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:6F1B9C88-16C1-4452-B463-B14EDCA054BA@microsoft.com...
 >   I want to set up a standard user account for an adult and one for a child
 >   (with parental controls set for the child as well).  When the adult opens the
 >   email reader in Vista (is that Outlook Express or ??), I would like them to
 >   have to sign in to their email account.  Same for the child.  Is that
 >   possilbe in Vista?  
 >
 >   What I specifically want is for people to have to sign into their email and
 >   not see everyone else's email before, or after sign-in (similar to the way
 >   AOL makes you sign in with a screen name before you get to your mail, and
 >   then it's only your mail).
 >
 >   Thanks,
 >   Mike
DLoyd - 29 Apr 2008 22:11 GMT
Mike,
If you use Thunderbird go to the 'OPTIONS' tab.  There you can specify the
accounts needed.  Then go to the 'ACCOUNT SETTINGS' and under the 'server
settings' uncheck 'Check for new email messages at startup' 'Check for new
messages every..' 'Automatically download new messages'.  When Thunderbird
then starts up it will not retrieve any email messages until you click on
the "Get new messages" icon.  At that point you will have to specify the
password for each account, if password is unknown no new messages will be
downloaded.
Dan
> Thanks Bob.  Let me ask more specifically on one item.  Once I create the
> Vista standard kids account, and set parental controls and set up their
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>>   Thanks,
>>   Mike
 
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