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Windows Forum / Windows Vista / Administration / December 2006You have been denied permission to access...
While dualbooting XP SP2 and Vista RC2 i have an annoying problem. - "You have been denied permission to access this folder." - "Photo Gallery can't open this picture because you do not have permission to access the file location." - "Cannot open file.xxx" All these happen when i am trying to create, download, install or whatever in XP and open the files in Vista. I know I can change the ownership, file permission in security tab, but i CANNOT give permission to multiple files in Vista at once (but it is possible in XP). UAC is off. I honestly don't want to edit every single file permission by myself. So i am asking if anyone has the same problem in working with both OS or if theres any solution of how i can fix this? Hello, The solution is NOT to change ownership; rather, you need to add a permission in Vista via the security tab to the folder where these files resides that gives your username read/write access. The permission applied to the folder will automatically apply to all the files that you created inside of that folder.  Signature- JB Windows Vista Support Faq http://www.jimmah.com/vista/ when i first try just to add permission it says i am not authorized to access the file. because i do not own it. and in the ownership tab it says 'unable to determine ownership', thats why i ave to set ownership first before adding a permissions for everything. and no, it does not work either, when i try to allow access a folder including their subfolders and files at once. i will get 'permission denied' for all the folders and files inside it. thats why i have to change every single file by myself. > when i first try just to add permission it says i am not authorized to > access > the file. because i do not own it. and in the ownership tab it says > 'unable > to determine ownership', thats why i ave to set ownership first before > adding a permissions for everything. Just to make sure we are on the same page - you are attempting to modify security on files that you created from another OS, and not system files? Have you modified the permissions on these files from the other OS? This behavior should only occur if Administrators are not allowed to edit permissions on the file, which shouldn't happen. > and no, it does not work either, when i try to allow access a folder > including their subfolders and files at once. i will get 'permission > denied' > for all the folders and files inside it. thats why i have to change every > single file by myself. Sounds like your files are set up so that administrators have no access to them. Your best bet is to use the takeown command-line tool to work your way through the folder tree. Make sure you give the administrators group ownership of the files and not your specific username in Vista, as this will decrease the chance of having problems accessing the files outside of Vista. Once you have ownership of all the files, you should be able to change the permissions at the top-level folders and they should propogate correctly. You will need to use an elevated command prompt in order to use the takeown command-line utility. Right-click command prompt in the start menu and click Run As Administrator. Example command-line: takeown /F . /A /R Will take ownership of everything inside of the current folder, including all nested subfolders and files, and assign the owner to the administrators group. Signature- JB Windows Vista Support Faq http://www.jimmah.com/vista/ I have the same problem. I installed Vista on a new partition. It can access all the XP files and folders in other drives but they are all read only. I changed ownership to mymachine\administrators for all the files & folders in those drives. That did not fix the issue. I noticed that all folders and files have read only attribute. I reset the attribute for all of them but as soon as I click OK to click the dialog box and go back to check it, I see that they still have Readonly attribute. Hello, <snip> > I have the same problem. I installed Vista on a new partition. It can access > all the XP files and folders in other drives but they are all read only. I > changed ownership to mymachine\administrators for all the files & folders in > those drives. That did not fix the issue. Changing ownership does Not give you access to the files. Changing ownership only allows you to edit permissions on the files. The reason I recommended to the OP here to change ownership was because he could not change the permissions any other way. Changing ownership on files is not recommened unless you are having problems changing permissions. You still must give yourself permission to access those files in Vista. Find the folder that contains the files you need access to (such as My Documents, My Pictures, or a folder that you created) This will not work on system folders such as Windows or Documents and Settings. - Open an explorer window - Find the folder you need access to - Right-click it - Click Properties - Click the Security Tab - Click Edit - Click Add - Type your username and press enter. - Click the checkbox under Allow next to Full Control - Click OK - Click OK - JB Thanks Jimmy. I did not have time to look at the issue deeper before posting. I guess many people will have this situation and may be puzzled by the fact that although their user account is added to "administrators" group by default and administrators group has full access to all files and folders in their systems, they will still see "access denied"... I am not sure if this partly because users who are part of administrators groups are not in fact regular users most of the time and automagically become admins when there is a need for elevated rights. It has the same idea implemented at Ubuntu but does not ask for password by default (could be modified to do so editing secpol.msc) Anyway that's not related to the issue. To resolve my problem, I've created a local group and added both my account and my wife's account to it. As simply adding this group at the drive level would not help and I needed to force it down so that all the changes are inherited, * I made the new group owner of all files and folders * In the drive securities dialog box, added the new group and granted Full rights * In the same dialog box Clicked Edit > Advanced and checked "Replace all existing inheritable permissions on all descendants with inheritable permissions from this object" * Logged off, logged back in & there I got full access to all my XP drives... > Hello, > [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > > - JB > As > simply adding this group at the drive level would not help and I needed to > force it down so that all the changes are inherited, It would have been better to have modified the permissions of the folders that directly contain the files you need access to by adding a single permission entry granting access to your specific username in vista. This would not have required any advanced "forcing" options, as the files inside the folder would automatically inherit the permissions of their parent folder. Changing permissions on a drive and then forcing propogation is generally considered a bad idea. You are wanting to ADD permissions to files/folders while leaving the default security in place; this is a destructive operation that replaces permissions, weaking the security of your system and possibly causing undesirable side effects. > * I made the new group owner of all files and folders This may cause some problems if you boot back into XP - its generally best to leave ownership alone, unless there is no other way to change the permissions you wish to change. Regardless, I'm glad you got it working :) Signature- JB Windows Vista Support Faq http://www.jimmah.com/vista/ > It would have been better to have modified the permissions of the folders > that directly contain the files you need access to by adding a single > permission entry granting access to YOUR SPECIFIC USERNAME in vista. Replace YOUR SPECIFIC USERNAME here with the user group you created. :) Signature- JB Windows Vista Support Faq http://www.jimmah.com/vista/ I have replied to you twice but I found myself back on this screen and my answer was gone. I am trying one last time... The reason I forced it down was because the new group I added was not inherited by the files & folders below. XP on the other hand worked just find although naturally could not enumerate the new group. So both are happy now. > > It would have been better to have modified the permissions of the folders > > that directly contain the files you need access to by adding a single > > permission entry granting access to YOUR SPECIFIC USERNAME in vista. > > Replace YOUR SPECIFIC USERNAME here with the user group you created. :) hi sorry to come back with this permissions things but i have a problem and maybe someone can help so i've done a clean installation of vista, everythings works fine and can access my files saved under Xp. But i wanted to restrict acces for some others users and hereS' where my problems started, somehow i denied acces to all the usergroups include my account (set as administrator) even under XP the folders and files are now unaccessible. I tried to undo it on the parent directory but the change won' apply to subfolders. I can still undo it but i have to do it for every single files and that'S too long. So is there an option to do it for multiples files? thank for yours answers and sorry my english isn't so good Faycal > Hello, > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > to the folder will automatically apply to all the files that you created > inside of that folder. Hello, When I was first introduced to Windows NT many moons ago I did the same thing myself ... except I ended up locking everyone (including SYSTEM) out of my entire disk drive, even after multiple warnings from Windows about how that wasn't such a good idea. lol. Needless to say, the system wouldn't boot and I ended up reformatting. Anyway, based on what you've said, it sounds like you added a DENY permission. Deny permissions override any other ALLOW permissions on the file. Example: allowing the Administrators group access to a file and then DENYing the users group access to that file. This would seem to block normal users but allow administrators access, but that's not what happens. Since deny permissions take precedence, both administrators and users are denied access, since all administrators are users and users are denied. Most of the time you should never need to set a deny permission. If you do, DON'T deny access to a file to a well-known group (such as users or administrators) - set deny permissions on a single user account or create a new group (such as "blocked users") and put that group in the deny permissions. In this case, you will need to take ownership of the files in order to be able to change their permissions. Following these steps should allow you to change the permissions on the files: 1) open admin command prompt - Click start - Type: cmd - right-click it under programs - click Run As Administrator 2) take ownership of everything - browse to the folder that you need access to (for example, "cd c:\users\jimmy\documents\folder") In the command prompt, type: takeown /F . /A /R /D Y and press enter. 3) change permissions You should now be able to remove the deny permissions and make any other changes, and then have those changes propogated down the folder heirarchy. Signature- JB Windows Vista Support Faq http://www.jimmah.com/vista/ thx man very helpful > Hello, > [quoted text clipped - 49 lines] > You should now be able to remove the deny permissions and make any other > changes, and then have those changes propogated down the folder heirarchy. |
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