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Ben - 02 Apr 2007 19:18 GMT Ive found a technical page on the Microsoft web site that explains my problem (see link below) but it doesnt tell me how to put it right simply so someone with very little computer knowledge can do it - any help gratefully recieved.
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/926183/en-us
Ronnie Vernon MVP - 02 Apr 2007 20:52 GMT Ben
That article simply describes the built-in Administrator account in Vista. This is an account that is hidden, by default and should not be used except in cases of an emergency. If for some reason all other administrator accounts get deleted, this account will still be available when you log into Safe Mode.
Can you describe the problem you are having?
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> Ive found a technical page on the Microsoft web site that explains my > problem [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/926183/en-us Ben - 02 Apr 2007 21:14 GMT I purchased a pc with Vista basic pre-installed. I set up 2 user accounts and an Administrator account as directed. The 2 user accounts were for myself and my wife and the Administartor account was there for when I needed it (as per Windows advice). Everything was good and I decided to upgrade to Premium using the Windows Anytime upgrade disc after puchasing the licence on-line. The upgrade completed and my machine re-booted but the welcome screen only showed the log in for the two user accounts. The administrator log in has disapeared. When I go control panel>user accounts>manage another account it shows the 2 user accounts and the administrator account. I just need a method of logging in to that administator account so I can give the administrator control to one of the other accounts. This is getting very frustrating as I cant even clean re-install from the upgrade disc because I dont have the right privilages - no control over my own pc after spending 90 quid on an upgrade.. Any help gratefully recieved
> Ben > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > > > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/926183/en-us Ronnie Vernon MVP - 02 Apr 2007 23:26 GMT Ben
You need to boot to Safe Mode. When you go to Safe Mode, you can only log-in with an Administrator account. If there are no other administrator accounts left, Vista is designed to log you on with the Built-in Administrator account. This account does not have a password, by default.
Reboot the computer and start tapping the F8 key while it restarts. You will eventually see a black screen with several menu options, use the Arrow Keys to select Safe Mode and press the Enter Key.
Once in Safe Mode, you can either create a new Administrator account change one of the Standard User accounts to Administrator.
I'm not sure what may have happened to your original administrator account when you performed the upgrade?
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>I purchased a pc with Vista basic pre-installed. I set up 2 user accounts >and [quoted text clipped - 40 lines] >> > >> > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/926183/en-us SROC4 - 03 Apr 2007 03:16 GMT I posted a similar problem above. The difference in my case is that I did not program a password for my administrator profile. I tried running the Safe Mode process you suggested, but it just goes straight to my standard user profile. I do not see any option for me to log in as an administrator.
What am I missing?
Help!
> Ben > [quoted text clipped - 57 lines] > >> > > >> > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/926183/en-us Ronnie Vernon MVP - 03 Apr 2007 07:25 GMT SROC4
I don't see your previous message. It may not have posted properly? Please repost your original message.
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>I posted a similar problem above. The difference in my case is that I did >not [quoted text clipped - 85 lines] >> >> > >> >> > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/926183/en-us SROC4 - 03 Apr 2007 08:32 GMT Here it is:
I bought my computer with Vista Business intalled. I've been using the administrator profile (as my profile) up until yesterday when I switched it to a "user". I assigned the ASP.NET profile as administrator and did not assign a password. When I restarted my PC, now there is no way for me to access the administrator rights since it requires me to input a password. Is there a default password for this, since I did not assign one in th first place? Now there is no way for me to change the settings of my PC.
Please help!!!
Thanks!
> SROC4 > [quoted text clipped - 90 lines] > >> >> > > >> >> > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/926183/en-us Ronnie Vernon MVP - 03 Apr 2007 23:38 GMT The way I understand this is the ASP.NET account is created when the .Net Framework is installed. This account has special permissions configured and a random password is generated for the account. This account is automatically accessed and used when you perform ASP.NET development work for web applications. I don't think this account was designed for everyday use.
The only thing I can suggest is that you go to the MSDN Developer Forums and describe the problem and ask if there is a way to retrieve or change the automatically generated password for that account. Post the message in one of the ASP.NET forums there.
MSDN Forums: http://forums.microsoft.com/MSDN/default.aspx?SiteID=1
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> Here it is: > [quoted text clipped - 121 lines] >> >> >> > >> >> >> > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/926183/en-us SROC4 - 04 Apr 2007 00:00 GMT I'll check it out. I hope they can help me or else I'm screwed.
Thanks!
> The way I understand this is the ASP.NET account is created when the .Net > Framework is installed. This account has special permissions configured and [quoted text clipped - 136 lines] > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/926183/en-us Ronnie Vernon MVP - 04 Apr 2007 01:05 GMT Post back here and let us know, good or bad. Things are always evolving with different issues and someone here may come up with more information on this problem.
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> I'll check it out. I hope they can help me or else I'm screwed. > [quoted text clipped - 163 lines] >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/926183/en-us Carl G - 09 Apr 2007 22:49 GMT Hi All I always get that ASP.NET acount installed when I install my ATI video drivers. As it installs Netframework. I just delete the acount and the files. Have never had it create a problem for what I do. I don't know what I or any regular User would use it for. It don't seam to hurt anything by deleteing it.
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> The way I understand this is the ASP.NET account is created when the .Net > Framework is installed. This account has special permissions configured [quoted text clipped - 141 lines] >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/926183/en-us SROC4 - 03 Apr 2007 19:02 GMT Ronnie,
I found this link and tried it. The problem is when I try to Save the changes it tells me my access is denied since I am only signed in as a User. This is really frustrating!
http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&articleI d=9001970&pageNumber=1
What sucks is I did not assign a password when I switched the Administrator profile and automatically assigned one. Is there a way to recover a password?
> SROC4 > [quoted text clipped - 90 lines] > >> >> > > >> >> > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/926183/en-us Ben - 03 Apr 2007 18:22 GMT Ronnie, Ive rebooted in safe mode but there remains no Administrator log in only the usual standard users. I went to Control panel>user accounts>manage another account and it will only let me change the pictures nothing else. When I try to create a new account it says I cant because the name contains ^'|.><* even though it doesnt. Even though its in safe mode it seems to be behaving exactly as it does normally.
Brick in hand-close to smashing!!!!!
> Ben > [quoted text clipped - 57 lines] > >> > > >> > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/926183/en-us Ronnie Vernon MVP - 04 Apr 2007 01:12 GMT Hi Ben
I have been trying to recreate what you are seeing. I did some testing and here's what I found.
I had one administrator account on the test system with Vista Home Premium installed. This was the only account on the system. I demoted this account to a Standard User and checked to make sure that it was indeed a standard account without administrator privileges. I then booted into Safe Mode and at the Welcome screen, the built-in administrator account appeared as an available account. I logged into this account without a password. This is the way that Vista was designed to work, but apparently, not what you are seeing.
A question.
What happens when you are logged on and you try to elevate a program with administrator privileges?
You can check this by going to Start and type cmd.exe in the search box. In Programs, right click cmd.exe and select Run As Administrator. What should happen is that you get a UAC prompt to select an administrator account to use for the elevation. What do you see?
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> Ronnie, > Ive rebooted in safe mode but there remains no Administrator log in only [quoted text clipped - 89 lines] >> >> > >> >> > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/926183/en-us Ben - 04 Apr 2007 07:44 GMT Hi Ronnie First of thanks thanks for helping me with this it is appreciated.
I did as you said and I got a black box with C:\windows\system32> with a flashing cursor at the end.
> Hi Ben > [quoted text clipped - 113 lines] > >> >> > > >> >> > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/926183/en-us Ronnie Vernon MVP - 04 Apr 2007 19:55 GMT Ben
Sorry for the delay.
OK, perform the same procedure to bring the command window up as administrator and then do the following.
In the command prompt window, copy/paste this command.
net user administrator /active:yes
Press Enter.
You should see a message, "The command completed successsfully."
Reboot the computer and at the Welcome screen, you should now see the built-in administrator account. Log on with this account and make the changes you need. You should create at least one administrator account or change one of your Standard accounts to an administrator account in Control Panel/User Accounts.
Once all of the changes are made, go back and repeat the steps above, but this time use the following command to disable the built-in administrator account.
net user administrator /active:no
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> Hi Ronnie > First of thanks thanks for helping me with this it is appreciated. [quoted text clipped - 140 lines] >> >> >> > >> >> >> > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/926183/en-us Ben - 05 Apr 2007 15:24 GMT Ronnie,
I did as you said and got the following message: The syntax of this command is:
NET USER [username [password : * ] [options]] [/DOMAIN] username {password : * } /ADD [options] [/DOMAIN] username [/DELETE] [/DOMAIN] username [/TIMES:{times : ALL}]
and then it returns to the
C:\Windows\system32>
> Ben > [quoted text clipped - 166 lines] > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/926183/en-us Ronnie Vernon MVP - 05 Apr 2007 20:27 GMT Ben
Open the command prompt, as before with Run as administrator. type the following command.
net user
Press Enter.
Click the small icon on the top left of the window and click Edit/Select All. Press the Enter Key. This should copy the text on the screen. Paste the results back here in a reply.
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> Ronnie, > [quoted text clipped - 204 lines] >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/926183/en-us Ben - 05 Apr 2007 21:32 GMT Ronnie,
Results as requested.
C:\Windows\system32>net user
User accounts for \\BEN1
------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Administrator ASPNET Ben Benn Guest The command completed successfully.
I'm assuming this means the administrator account is one called Benn. This is the account I use all the time but when I log in it says its a standard user account and when i go to control panel it says the same. It also wont let me change anything without being logged on as an admistrator. The guest account on control panel is shown as being turned off and it wont let me turn it on. Ben was the admistrator account before I upgraded.
> Ben > [quoted text clipped - 217 lines] > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/926183/en-us Ronnie Vernon MVP - 06 Apr 2007 00:25 GMT Ben
That command only shows all of the user accounts on the system. So you have 4 accounts which are: Administrator ASPNET Ben Benn Guest
The first account is the built-in Admionistrator account. I wanted to see this to make sure that it was available.
Do you have User Account Control disabled? To check this, go to Control Panel and double click User Accounts. Click the "Turn user account control on or off" link. There should be a check mark in the box "Use user account control (UAC) to help protect your comuter" option.
If this is OK, open the command prompt in administrator mode, using my previous directions and try that net user administrator /active:yes command again. Make sure that it is entered exactly as shown including the spaces, slash and colon.
If this still does not work, then enter these commands, pressing Enter after each command.
net user benn
net user ben
net user administrator
Post back with the results.
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> Ronnie, > [quoted text clipped - 268 lines] >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/926183/en-us Ben - 06 Apr 2007 08:32 GMT Ronnie UAC is disabled in all acounts - I can check the box to turn it on but when you return to the page the box is again unchecked - in other words it wont let me turn it on.
I tried the net user administrator / active:yes again and got the same results as shown before.
Below are the results of the net user commands:
Microsoft Windows [Version 6.0.6000] Copyright (c) 2006 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.
C:\Windows\system32>net user benn User name Benn Full Name Benn Comment User's comment Country code 000 (System Default) Account active Yes Account expires Never
Password last set 19/03/2007 22:37:31 Password expires 30/04/2007 22:37:31 Password changeable 19/03/2007 22:37:31 Password required No User may change password Yes
Workstations allowed All Logon script User profile Home directory Last logon 06/04/2007 08:15:14
Logon hours allowed All
Local Group Memberships *Users Global Group memberships *None The command completed successfully.
C:\Windows\system32>net user ben User name Ben Full Name Julie Comment User's comment Country code 000 (System Default) Account active Yes Account expires Never
Password last set 13/03/2007 21:32:16 Password expires Never Password changeable 13/03/2007 21:32:16 Password required No User may change password Yes
Workstations allowed All Logon script User profile Home directory Last logon 06/04/2007 08:15:02
Logon hours allowed All
Local Group Memberships *Users Global Group memberships *None The command completed successfully.
C:\Windows\system32>net user administrator User name Administrator Full Name Comment Built-in account for administering the computer/dom ain User's comment Country code 000 (System Default) Account active No Account expires Never
Password last set 26/02/2007 20:43:26 Password expires Never Password changeable 26/02/2007 20:43:26 Password required Yes User may change password Yes
Workstations allowed All Logon script User profile Home directory Last logon 19/03/2007 19:21:16
Logon hours allowed All
Local Group Memberships *Administrators Global Group memberships *None The command completed successfully.
C:\Windows\system32>
> Ben > [quoted text clipped - 238 lines] > >> >> >> >> > in > >> >> >> >> > has Ronnie Vernon MVP - 06 Apr 2007 20:04 GMT Ben
One more question. At what point was UAC turned off, was this before or after the upgrade?
This has me stumped because if there are no administrator accounts available, except the built-in admin account, booting into safe mode should make the buit-in administrator account available for log on. This is the built-in safety net for Vista.
The results of the commands you ran shows that this account is indeed on the system, but not available, this is the built-in admin account. If UAC was turned on, you should be getting a UAC elevation prompt, but since it's turned off, and you only have a standard user account to work with, everything that needs admin privileges will just silently fail. You can disable UAC with a standard account, but you cannot re-enable it with a standard account?
Stand by, I'm going to escalate this problem.
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> Ronnie > UAC is disabled in all acounts - I can check the box to turn it on but [quoted text clipped - 305 lines] >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > Brick in hand-close to smashing!!!!! Ben - 07 Apr 2007 14:00 GMT Hi Ronnie
I disabled UAC after the upgrade when I was trying to get the log in icon back (blindly trying anything). At that time it also let me change the name of the administrator (shown on control panel) but now it will not let me change anything - not even the administrators account picture or anything on any of the other accounts even the one Im logged into.
> Ben > [quoted text clipped - 248 lines] > >> >> >> > a > >> >> >> > flashing cursor at the end. Ben - 09 Apr 2007 17:38 GMT Thanks for your help anyway Ronnie
> Ben > [quoted text clipped - 248 lines] > >> >> >> > a > >> >> >> > flashing cursor at the end. Darrell Gorter[MSFT] - 10 Apr 2007 00:19 GMT Hello Ronnie, What about the ASPNET account? If that is truely an administrator account that would block the "Administrator" account from showing up in Safe Mode. If that ASPNET account is an administrator account we may be blocked. That account doesn't show as a logon account so it's displayed on the logon screen. If it's an administrator account it does however count as a local admin account for for Safe Mode so the disabled local administrator would not show. Ben, run net user aspnet and report back the output. Thanks, Darrell Gorter[MSFT]
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|>>> > Administrator ASPNET Ben |>>> > Benn Guest [quoted text clipped - 169 lines] |>>> >> >> >> > |>>> >> >> >> > Brick in hand-close to smashing!!!!! Ronnie Vernon MVP - 10 Apr 2007 03:36 GMT Hi Darrell
I have always been under the impression that the ASP NET account was a special account that could only be used for ASP.NET development work. I remember someone stating that it was configured as a "fixed" (?) account with a randomly generated password that could only be read by the ASP.NET development software?
In XP, after this account was created by installing the Net Framework we always recommended that it just be deleted if the user did not intend to be doing any development work.
I hope you're right and that it is an administrator account. This may be what is causing several users in these groups who are experiencing the same type of problem when trying to recover from problems caused by not having access to an admin account.
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> Hello Ronnie, > What about the ASPNET account? [quoted text clipped - 423 lines] > |>>> >> >> >> > > |>>> >> >> >> > Brick in hand-close to smashing!!!!! Jane C - 10 Apr 2007 04:02 GMT Ronnie, I've just checked on mine, and the ASP.NET account is listed as a Standard User account. Somebody else did report having problems after making the ASP.NET account an Administrator account, in the belief that he could use that for Admin duties - not a wise decision considering that the password is unknown for that account.
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> Hi Darrell > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > same type of problem when trying to recover from problems caused by not > having access to an admin account. Ronnie Vernon MVP - 10 Apr 2007 04:22 GMT Hi Jane
This account being created when you install the .net framework has always been a pita. There is a huge number of messages in the XP newsgroup archives where people are just asking "where did this account come from, I didn't create it?
Thanks for this information, I was hoping that it would turn out to be an admin account. This could have solved a lot of problems.
I am hoping that Darrell will be able to escalate this problem at Microsoft. There are several other users who are having similar problems. They have all been tweaking their user accounts, for whatever reasons and are now effectively locked out of their systems because the built-in admin account is not showing up in Safe Mode even when they no longer have any other admin account on the system. This is supposed to be the "safety net" that is built into Vista. So they only have standard user accounts to work with.
One user even changed his last admin account to a standard user, which should not even be possible. On every Vista system that I have seen, that option is always unavailable if you only have one admin account left?
Ain't this fun. <g>
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> Ronnie, I've just checked on mine, and the ASP.NET account is listed as a > Standard User account. Somebody else did report having problems after [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] >> same type of problem when trying to recover from problems caused by not >> having access to an admin account. Jane C - 10 Apr 2007 06:12 GMT Hi Ronnie,
From the User Accounts in Control Panel, you can't demote your Admin account to a Standard User if there are no other Admin acounts (I did a check to see if it was possible and it's not), but unfortunately, you can via gpedit or the registry. And we know how some folk just love to fiddle and tweak in the registry :-( At least those with Home Editions can't use gpedit to get themselves into trouble <g>.
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> Hi Jane > [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > Ain't this fun. <g> Ronnie Vernon MVP - 10 Apr 2007 07:44 GMT Hi Jane
I have been testing this problem on a VPC for some time and just am not able to re-create what is being reported here. Every time I manage to demote or delete all admin accounts, I can still boot to safe mode and the disabled admin account is available for log on?
Check my thread in the private Vista group, maybe we can generate some interest there.
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> Hi Ronnie, > [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] >> >> Ain't this fun. <g> Darrell Gorter[MSFT] - 10 Apr 2007 22:51 GMT Hello Ronnie, I was looking at a prior post where the asp.net account was alluded to be changed to an administrator account:
>I bought my computer with Vista Business intalled. I've been using the >administrator profile (as my profile) up until yesterday when I switched it
>to a "user". I assigned the ASP.NET profile as administrator and did not >assign a password. When I restarted my PC, now there is no way for me to >access the administrator rights since it requires me to input a password. Is
>there a default password for this, since I did not assign one in th first >place? Now there is no way for me to change the settings of my PC. Thanks, Darrell Gorter[MSFT]
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|>> --- |>> |>>> > Administrator ASPNET Ben [quoted text clipped - 185 lines] |>> |>>> >> >> >> > |>> |>>> >> >> >> > Brick in hand-close to smashing!!!!! Jane C - 03 Apr 2007 00:29 GMT Ben, when you first set up the pc, how did you name the first account, ie the one that has Administrator rights? I presume that you set up that account before creating your 2 Standard User accounts (Ben and Mrs Ben).
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Ben - 03 Apr 2007 18:14 GMT Jane The accounts were called Ben (Administrator) and me & her (user accounts). I did set the administrator account up first. I was running the sytem perfectly for about a month before I took the decision (in hindsight -stupid) to upgrade.
The sad part is I really like Vista but this is starting to confirm to me all the negative things that people have been saying about it.
> Ben, when you first set up the pc, how did you name the first account, ie > the one that has Administrator rights? I presume that you set up that > account before creating your 2 Standard User accounts (Ben and Mrs Ben). whibbs@btopenworld.com - 14 Apr 2007 19:16 GMT You can get this back in any version of Vista. However, caution is the keyword here and you should not use the built-in administrator account other than on a temporary basis.
Go to Start and type cmd
In the programs list, right click on CMD and select Run As Administrator.
In the command prompt window, type the following command.
net user administrator /active:yes
(Note the spaces and colon)
Press Enter.
Log off of your user account and you will see the Administrator account on the Welcome screen. This account will not have a password associated with it. The first thing you need to do is go into Control Panel / User Accounts and create a strong password for this account. is should work ok
Wayne
> Ive found a technical page on the Microsoft web site that explains my problem > (see link below) but it doesnt tell me how to put it right simply so someone > with very little computer knowledge can do it - any help gratefully recieved. > > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/926183/en-us Ben - 18 Apr 2007 22:00 GMT Thanks Wayne
I did as you sugested but I just get the message 'Access denied'
I'm running out of patience now
> You can get this back in any version of Vista. However, caution is the keyword > here and you should not use the built-in administrator account other than on [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > > > > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/926183/en-us newsgroups.comcast.net - 19 Apr 2007 06:07 GMT Is there a way to reverse the "net user administrator /active:yes" command to hide the administrator again?
> Thanks Wayne > [quoted text clipped - 38 lines] >> > >> > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/926183/en-us Ronnie Vernon MVP - 19 Apr 2007 17:54 GMT This is simple, just change the "yes" to "no" in the command.
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> Is there a way to reverse the "net user administrator /active:yes" command > to hide the administrator again? [quoted text clipped - 43 lines] >>> > >>> > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/926183/en-us Ben - 19 Apr 2007 19:38 GMT Whatever I do I just get 'access denied'
Ronnie, do you know if there's anyway I can reinstall Vista in these circumstances. I would need to use the anytime disc but I cant just reformat my hard drive as the licence for the anytime disc is in the digital locker and to get varification for that I need to be online. I thought I could just put the disc in and get it to do a clean install but as Im not the administrator, it wont let me - got any ideas? - bearing in mind the machine came pre-loaded with Vista basic so I dont have the operating system on disc.
> This is simple, just change the "yes" to "no" in the command. > [quoted text clipped - 45 lines] > >>> > > >>> > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/926183/en-us Ronnie Vernon MVP - 20 Apr 2007 23:22 GMT I haven't had any experience with the anytime upgrade disk or with the digital locker. Did you get a product key when you bought the anytime upgrade? If so, you should be able to perform a clean install to a formatted drive using the procedure outlined here:
Use Vista's 'upgrade' version to clean-install http://www.windowssecrets.com/comp/070201#story1
 Signature Ronnie Vernon Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
> Whatever I do I just get 'access denied' > [quoted text clipped - 64 lines] >> >>> > >> >>> > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/926183/en-us Jerry - 20 Apr 2007 00:40 GMT Ronnie,
"no" doesn't work.
Thanks anyway
> This is simple, just change the "yes" to "no" in the command. > [quoted text clipped - 45 lines] >>>> > >>>> > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/926183/en-us Ronnie Vernon MVP - 20 Apr 2007 23:07 GMT Jerry
I tested this extensively and it works everytime? You might want to try a reboot immediately after you run the command. Make sure that you have another account in the administrators group before you do this, otherwise you could lock yourself out of the system.
 Signature Ronnie Vernon Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
> Ronnie, > [quoted text clipped - 50 lines] >>>>> > >>>>> > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/926183/en-us Baz - 30 Apr 2007 00:08 GMT Well I ahve just run this and did NOT get an Admin account set up???? and although I ahve set users to everyone/Administrator and groups link to admin too, I still have not enough access rights???????
Barry
> Jerry > [quoted text clipped - 57 lines] >>>>>> > >>>>>> > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/926183/en-us
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