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This game is about to be released in under 3 hours. Both ATI and NVIDIA have beta graphics drivers to address some problems with this game. I have tried the ATI drivers with the demo under Vista Ultimate and the work without fault.  SignatureAnnie___ (VM BB L)________________________________ http://find-out-more.brion.me.uk - http://email-me.brion.me.uk > This game is about to be released in under 3 hours. > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > I have tried the ATI drivers with the demo under Vista Ultimate and the > work without fault. Yup same with the 162.50 Nvidia forceware drivers on ultimate SignatureVRG Scotty© www.vistareadygames.com Register (it's free) and Use the Search for solution button to find the answer. >> This game is about to be released in under 3 hours. >> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Yup same with the 162.50 Nvidia forceware drivers on ultimate I read the count-down timer wrong :( 3days 6:hour 44:mins 'till release here :( SignatureAnnie___ (VM BB L)________________________________ http://find-out-more.brion.me.uk - http://email-me.brion.me.uk >>> I have tried the ATI drivers with the demo under Vista Ultimate and the >>> work without fault. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > I read the count-down timer wrong :( 3days 6:hour 44:mins 'till release > here :( yup and I gave the wrong driver version :) Should read 163.44 with added Bioshock compatibility SignatureScotty© >>>> I have tried the ATI drivers with the demo under Vista Ultimate and the >>>> work without fault. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > yup and I gave the wrong driver version :) > Should read 163.44 with added Bioshock compatibility I Love you guys, I would of died if I had gotten home, loaded the game and had "issues" right off the bat. I've been waiting for this game since EA canceled System Shock 3. I have to work all day today the box is sitting on my desk taunting me. TAUNTING I SAY! Gonna be a LONG day. >>>>> I have tried the ATI drivers with the demo under Vista Ultimate and >>>>> the work without fault. [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > Gonna be a LONG day. I have it pre-loaded from steam on my PC and have to wait until Friday so you think you have problems waiting a few hours :( SignatureAnnie___ (VM BB L)________________________________ http://find-out-more.brion.me.uk - http://email-me.brion.me.uk >>>>>> I have tried the ATI drivers with the demo under Vista Ultimate and >>>>>> the work without fault. [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > I have it pre-loaded from steam on my PC and have to wait until Friday so > you think you have problems waiting a few hours :( So did Steam not deliver on time? Ouch, major hurt for Steam. I love Gabe and the gang down at Valve. Steam was going to be my backup if for some reason my copy got pilfered from pre-order. Sorry you have to wait. :( I just used LogMeIn(.com) to connect to my computer at home and update my nVidia drivers, computer is just waiting for me to get home. I may have to calibrate my speakers before I start playing. I'm considering getting an X-fi card just for this game, the audio in System Shock was amazing, I'm sure this one will be no different. >>>>>>> I have tried the ATI drivers with the demo under Vista Ultimate >>>>>>> and the work without fault. [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > Gabe and the gang down at Valve. Steam was going to be my backup if for > some reason my copy got pilfered from pre-order. I'm in the UK so the activation is on Friday for us in Europe :( > Sorry you have to wait. :( > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > getting an X-fi card just for this game, the audio in System Shock was > amazing, I'm sure this one will be no different. I already have an x-fi (http://pcspec.brion.co.uk) :) Happy gaming. SignatureAnnie___ (VM BB L)________________________________ http://find-out-more.brion.me.uk - http://email-me.brion.me.uk > I already have an x-fi (http://pcspec.brion.co.uk) :) Happy gaming. Well I don't so :P *Phibit* Sorry ya gotta wait til Friday. Sure it'll be worth it though. Right now I'm counting minutes til 4:30... bout 2 hours 10 minutes to go. Of course then it's a 25 minute drive to the store, 5 minutes home, 10 minute install, 20 if I pick up an X-fi. *does the pee pee dance around the office* >> I already have an x-fi (http://pcspec.brion.co.uk) :) Happy gaming. > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > *does the pee pee dance around the office* I've just loaded steam and the pre-load started validating , very slowly, so maybe VALVe have activated everyone that pre-loaded via steam and its only the retail that activates Friday. Fingers crossed :) Only problem is it's 10:23pm here so I cannot have the sound up very loud, if I do get activated :( SignatureAnnie___ (VM BB L)________________________________ http://find-out-more.brion.me.uk - http://email-me.brion.me.uk >>> I already have an x-fi (http://pcspec.brion.co.uk) :) Happy >>> gaming. [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > :) Only problem is it's 10:23pm here so I cannot have the sound up > very loud, if I do get activated :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( It was teasing me, it just downloaded so more pre-load stuff even though earlier it said it was at status "Pre-load complete; unreleased". :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( SignatureAnnie___ (VM BB L)________________________________ http://find-out-more.brion.me.uk - http://email-me.brion.me.uk SS2 was one of the best things i ever played. I pre-ordered Bioshock as soon as it was possible. Can't even imagine that it could be worse than excellent :) But what really surprised me lately, was the quality of STALKER. It's fantastic, especially some areas are with "no comment" atmosphere. Official site doesn't mention it (as far as i know), but it's probably based on a movie From Tarkovsky - Stalker, from 1979 and Chernobyl blew up in 1986 :) But sorry, this is OT, i know. I just had to mention it. Usually ppl in "Bioshock thread" tend to like atmospheric titles and Stalker is just that. Probably more action than adventure, but honestly, Bioshock is also much more action based than SS2 was. Still, I hope it will be great :) SignatureMaraST78 Intel DP35DP -=- Core2Quad Q6600 -=- 2x2GB DDRII 667 (Kingmax) -=- POV 8800GTS 640MB -=- onboard Sigmatel HD audio -=- some SATA HDDs and optical drives -=- FSP Epsilon 700W PSU -=- Vista Ultimate x64 -=- everything at stock speeds and will never be overclocked > SS2 was one of the best things i ever played. I pre-ordered Bioshock as > soon as it was possible. Can't even imagine that it could be worse than > excellent :) Bioshock, I can honestly say, is like System Shock 2, but with slightly more balaned gameplay. I don't know how to describe it, but let me see if I can break it down. (See below) > But what really surprised me lately, was the quality of STALKER. It's > fantastic, especially some areas are with "no comment" atmosphere. > Official site doesn't mention it (as far as i know), but it's probably > based on a movie From Tarkovsky - Stalker, from 1979 and Chernobyl blew > up in 1986 :) I think I have to try this one one of these days, it sounds good. > But sorry, this is OT, i know. I just had to mention it. Usually ppl in > "Bioshock thread" tend to like atmospheric titles and Stalker is just > that. Probably more action than adventure, but honestly, Bioshock is > also much more action based than SS2 was. Still, I hope it will be great > :) It's ok, bioshock is an off-topic game, might as well keep the conversation going, not like this newsgroup is super busy. So I think Bioshock is like SS2 because it just feels like SS2. So let me see if I can list some comparisons. SS2 Stuff vs. BS Stuff Hacking - As in SS2, in BS you can hack the vending machines for ammo and other goodies. How you hack is different, but it's close enough. I think it's easier to hack with a mouse/keyboard vs. a gamepad though. Hacking Cameras and Robots in BS though it awesome. Psionics - Replaced with Plasmids, only difference is you can only have like up to 6 equiped at a time. Have to find a "machine" to swap them out. Weapons - Same, but I don't think they degrade like they did in SS2, different ammo types for most weapons, easy to switch out, and the wrench is back and badass. Body Mods - While more Cyber'ish in SS2, in BS they are basically "Tonics". You get powers you can equip up to 6 each in Physical, Engineering, and Combat Very much like SS2, but you never have to go to an "Inventory", that's all gone, you just switch weapons or your equiped plasmids and kick a.s. It's crazy fun, and I did get a X-fi card, calibrated my speakers with a sound meter (Radio Shack FTW!), broke a caster on my office chair (crap!), and scared the crap out of myself like 20 times last night. Finally collapsed around 2am. This is how we roll.. -A. > But what really surprised me lately, was the quality of STALKER. It's > fantastic, especially some areas are with "no comment" atmosphere. > Official site doesn't mention it (as far as i know), but it's probably > based on a movie From Tarkovsky - Stalker, from 1979 and Chernobyl blew > up in 1986 :) Just my two cents. STALKER wasn't horrible, but I think it's a ways from fantastic. Granted it had some nice atmosphere, but it's got plenty of bugs..Some really big and some just annoying. Quality wise, GSC needed about another 6-9 months polishing the game and they are about 3 months late getting out the 1.004 patch, which was billed as a minor fix, with the 1.1 patch suppose to be the major patch and now they are saying that they may never official release the 1.1 patch as a patch, but a mod. Adding insult to injury, they are looking to release their pre-queal (Clear Skies), which will have all the features slated for the original stalker. I'm not bitter about any of it or anything. It's just why I disagree with the game being of fantastic quality It's been noted on their website, that GSC's concept came from the Russian movie Stalker. So good catch I agree. Yes, it had some bugs. But when I realized how big that project is, no wonder, because if something that big hadn't any bugs, than GSC's cover would have been blown, everyone would know that they're not from this world :) BTW, 1.0003 patch solved everything for me, so no qicksave and quickload crashes. By saying fantastic i meant the gameplay of it. And the atmosphere. I probably never played anything where just exploring is such a fun, really. And i started playing on my Sharp MZ-800 (8bit) :) And there is something else. In most games where you have to do some "missions", you have to do them (and usually in a given order), failure is not an option. But here? I can fail almost everything and still finish the game and see one of the 7 (!) endings. I will never forget how my character was so stupid in front of the Wish Granter and wanted to be rich. Yeah, he was, a while :) So, it's really not for everyone and it can have some minor problems after 1.0003 patch, though I don't have any now. But the whole concept is executed exactly to my taste :) P.S. Saw Stalker few hours ago, more than a good movie. Tarkovsky is an artist... SignatureMaraST78 Intel DP35DP -=- Core2Quad Q6600 -=- 2x2GB DDRII 667 (Kingmax) -=- POV 8800GTS 640MB -=- onboard Sigmatel HD audio -=- some SATA HDDs and optical drives -=- FSP Epsilon 700W PSU -=- Vista Ultimate x64 -=- everything at stock speeds and will never be overclocked "Andy [YaYa]" <android8675@MAPSONhotmail.com> wrote in message >> yup and I gave the wrong driver version :) >> Should read 163.44 with added Bioshock compatibility [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Gonna be a LONG day. Played the demo and to be honest it looks great but it's not my type of game have fun when you get into it Andy..but it's BF2 all the way for me :) SignatureScotty© > "Andy [YaYa]" <android8675@MAPSONhotmail.com> wrote in message >>> yup and I gave the wrong driver version :) [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > game have fun when you get into it Andy..but it's BF2 all the way for me > :) I LOVE dropping the lights late at night and playing System Shock. I love to be scared and BF is "not" scary. Well not in the shock way, more like the scared that people really talk to other people in that way kind of shock. My favorite games have characters, plots, and are genuinely fun and innovative. Silent Hill, Resident Evil, Siren, Rule of Rose, Eternal Darkness, Fatal Frame... great games. Ico, Shadow of the Colossus, KoToR, Civ, Alpha Centauri, just about any Tycoon game by Sid Meyers Half-Life, not Quake, not Counter-Stike, DoD is good. I like games where I don't run into idiots, DoD tends to lean towards less idiots so it's an exception. Shooters are awesome, but I prefer more visceral gameplay wherever possible. > I LOVE dropping the lights late at night and playing System Shock. I love > to be scared and BF is "not" scary. Well not in the shock way, more like [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > Shooters are awesome, but I prefer more visceral gameplay wherever > possible. I love the fact that every game is diffo though...and you can't beat BF2 for a right good shoot em up to the tune of gulf one :) SignatureScotty© OK, one thing I hate about Bioshock. The game has BOTH an activation code, AND a new version of SecuROM that requires you to download a custom exe file based on your systems hardware. Can we PLEASE loose the activation codes? I used to love having Oblivion installed on 2 computers. I'd keep my latest save on my thumb drive and could play it wherever I found a system with the game installed. Amazing games do NOT need copy protection. > OK, one thing I hate about Bioshock. The game has BOTH an activation > code, AND a new version of SecuROM that requires you to download a [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Amazing games do NOT need copy protection. From what I've been reading, the steam version also uses SecuROM on top of steams own security and SecuROM is causing major problems :( SignatureAnnie___ (VM BB L)________________________________ http://find-out-more.brion.me.uk - http://email-me.brion.me.uk >> OK, one thing I hate about Bioshock. The game has BOTH an activation >> code, AND a new version of SecuROM that requires you to download a custom [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > From what I've been reading, the steam version also uses SecuROM on top of > steams own security and SecuROM is causing major problems :( Always does, to this day System Shock 2 still has SafeDisc v1 in place, and buggy as hell. Finding the hack to remove it is a pain in the butt, and the hack doesn't work in Vista. :) (I have a disc, but I don't like using it if I don't have too, it's already scratched a bit. Might have to use the banana trick on it someday). Does Steam require a CD-Key as well? If not then I'd say that's still the way to go, you can install the game on multiple computers and it's all good. CD-Keys are just a pain. SecuROM just has issues with some DVD drives, just gotta swap out your drive for another. Fortunatly a good burner is only $30 on newegg.com. Greetings to everyone in here. I got a small problem with Bioshock. Im trying to run the demo and it just crit-stops. Bioshock has bla bla bla..and needs to be closed. Im running vista ultima x64. Is there any know problems with the game and the OS ? If you need I can post the rest of my hardware. Or someone give me some hints what to look for, couse I've been looking at everything that might couse it to crash, disabled xfire, closed yahoo mess. Thank you. SignatureThybalt > Greetings to everyone in here. > I got a small problem with Bioshock. Im trying to run the demo and it [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > that might couse it to crash, disabled xfire, closed yahoo mess. > Thank you. If you are using an Nvidia card try using the 163.44 forceward with added Bioshock support http://downloads.guru3d.com/download.php?det=1713 SignatureVRG Scotty© www.vistareadygames.com Register (it's free) and Use the Search for solution button to find the answer. >> Greetings to everyone in here. >> I got a small problem with Bioshock. Im trying to run the demo and it [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > If you are using an Nvidia card try using the 163.44 forceward with added > Bioshock support http://downloads.guru3d.com/download.php?det=1713 You always have to post your system specs Thybalt. I don't care if you've posted it 300 times already, post it again, hell make your signature a compressed version of your sys.specs, that way you never forget. And just go buy Bioshock, the demo does not do the game justice unless you're just in it for the graphics. Bioshock is all about the story. -A. >> Greetings to everyone in here. >> I got a small problem with Bioshock. Im trying to run the demo and it [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > If you are using an Nvidia card try using the 163.44 forceward with > added Bioshock support http://downloads.guru3d.com/download.php?det=1713 Is this a beta or hacked version? The latest on the NVidia site is 162.22.... SignatureRegards, Hank Arnold Microsoft MVP Windows Server - Directory Services >>> Greetings to everyone in here. >>> I got a small problem with Bioshock. Im trying to run the demo and it [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > Is this a beta or hacked version? The latest on the NVidia site is > 162.22.... It's a beta SignatureVRG Scotty© www.vistareadygames.com Register (it's free) and Use the Search for solution button to find the answer. The demo itself may have problems. I have installed the game proper on vista ultimate 64 with 162.22 drivers and it seems to run fine on 8800GTX (1920 x1200 with everything maxed, so its a good test of stability) The only problem I had was trying to activate. Several times it failed (checked and double checked code but it still said invalid) Cancelled and restarted several times. Don't actually know what I did but suddenly it accepted code (validation server was overloaded perhaps ?!) I have no problem with code activation, but Securom is not on. Hopefully 64 bit may have denied it permission, anybody know ?? Phypps >>>> Greetings to everyone in here. >>>> I got a small problem with Bioshock. Im trying to run the demo and it [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > It's a beta > The demo itself may have problems. > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > I have no problem with code activation, but Securom is not on. > Hopefully 64 bit may have denied it permission, anybody know ?? Actually it's not activating because your video card is too fast. Trade it in for my video card, kthxbai video driver fix doesn't apply to everyone, and honestly I don't know what it fixes, but I think it grew back some of my hair, and if nVidia says it fixes some problems with Bioshock that's good enough for me. As for your activation problems, it's probably the quality of your copper in your house. Rip your cable and phone lines out of your wall and replace them with new coax and RJ-45 to specs. -A. "The Green Machine" Hey gang, I'm sure by now you've all seen the news that BioShock installs the securom rootkit? The same kit that gotr Sony in hot water with MS a few years ago? Can any of you confirm that the rootkit DID NOT install under x64? Some have said rootkits can't but I've seen one post that said it did. I won't by the game if this is a problem (that and no true widescreen support, sheesh). SignatureFit > Hey gang, > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > I won't by the game if this is a problem (that and no true widescreen > support, sheesh). I'm not sure what all the fuss is about wide-screen. I'm playing at 1680x1050ws and have no problems. SecuROM is a royal PITA but if it becomes a problem that stops me running my game then I'll source a hack. SignatureAnnie___ (VM BB L)________________________________ http://find-out-more.brion.me.uk - http://email-me.brion.me.uk Annie R J Brion;434210 Wrote: > I'm not sure what all the fuss is about wide-screen. I'm playing at > 1680x1050ws and have no problems. It's minor but if you compare standard to WS- you'll see that the solution for WS was to crop the top/bottom off the view. [image: http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/4583/widescreenbioshockve1.jpg] Versus something like HL2: [image: http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/7497/widescreenhalflife2dm5.jpg] SignatureFit > Annie R J Brion;434210 Wrote: >> I'm not sure what all the fuss is about wide-screen. I'm playing at [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > [image: > http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/7497/widescreenhalflife2dm5.jpg] Would not stepping back a bit in the BS example not give you the correct result? I have no problem in game as you don't see 4:3 and 16:10 side by side. SignatureAnnie___ (VM BB L)________________________________ http://find-out-more.brion.me.uk - http://email-me.brion.me.uk Ok, so I put the system specs in the signature. And regarding about the beta drivers, I couldn't find - or I didn't do the proper search - how to disable the driver verification. It says they aren't digitally signed and can't install the driver. Could you help me out a bit here? SignatureThybalt Abit AB9QuadGT - Sirtec HPC-500-A12S 500W - C2D E6600@3,24GHZ - 4x1GB Transcend 5-5-5-15 - EVGA 8800GTS 640MB Superclock -Seagate ST3250620AS 250GB Sata II - Samsung 225BW - Antec Nine Hundred > Ok, so I put the system specs in the signature. And regarding about the > beta drivers, I couldn't find - or I didn't do the proper search - how > to disable the driver verification. It says they aren't digitally signed > and can't install the driver. Could you help me out a bit here? Damn this answer is going in the top-10 Reboot your computer, after your computer POSTs, press F8 (like you're entering Safe Mode) From the Safe Mode menu there should be an option to turn digitally signed drivers "Off". Once in Windows try installing the drivers again, OR just wait for nVidia to release a new WHQL certified driver version for Vista x64. -A. Or yes I might as well do that :) SignatureThybalt Abit AB9QuadGT - Sirtec HPC-500-A12S 500W - C2D E6600@3,24GHZ - 4x1GB Transcend 5-5-5-15 - EVGA 8800GTS 640MB Superclock -Seagate ST3250620AS 250GB Sata II - Samsung 225BW - Antec Nine Hundred I reinstalled the game, I admit, I didn't buy it, but now it works perfectly, all on high details 1680x1050 with forceware 162.22 (vista x64). Thanks for the helping hand guys (and girls). SignatureThybalt Abit AB9QuadGT - Sirtec HPC-500-A12S 500W - C2D E6600@3,24GHZ - 4x1GB Transcend 5-5-5-15 - EVGA 8800GTS 640MB Superclock -Seagate ST3250620AS 250GB Sata II - Samsung 225BW - Antec Nine Hundred > I reinstalled the game, I admit, I didn't buy it, but now it works > perfectly, all on high details 1680x1050 with forceware 162.22 (vista > x64). > Thanks for the helping hand guys (and girls). If you haven't bought a legit copy yet Thy, and if it's any consolation, I still play System Shock 2 (the game this game is based off of), so if you're wondering if the game will be worth the investment, I think it will be. This is a GOTY title for sure, if you don't pick it up now, pick it up in a month or so when the price drops. Yes that's what I'm waiting for, the price to drop. Usually drops about 30% in a month or two. SignatureThybalt Abit AB9QuadGT - Sirtec HPC-500-A12S 500W - C2D E6600@3,24GHZ - 4x1GB Transcend 5-5-5-15 - EVGA 8800GTS 640MB Superclock -Seagate ST3250620AS 250GB Sata II - Samsung 225BW - Antec Nine Hundred > Yes that's what I'm waiting for, the price to drop. Usually drops about > 30% in a month or two. Someone from Mercury News (in San Jose, CA) was comparing the new Hellgate: London to Bioshock (saying he was practicing Bioshocks use of weapon combos to apply it to Hellgate), I might have to check out this one when it comes out. EA publishing... Doesn't bioshock install copyright software and limit the number of installations to five on one computer? If you need more than five for whatever reason I've been told you have to pay for more credits. > > Yes that's what I'm waiting for, the price to drop. Usually drops about > > 30% in a month or two. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > EA publishing... |
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