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Dungeon Keeper incompatible with Vista?

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DarkMisstress - 14 Feb 2008 18:44 GMT
I am at the end of my tether!

I go to install Dungeon Keeper or Dungeon Keeper Gold on my new Vista PC and
it gets to the title screen with Horny and then closes into a blackbox at the
top left of my screen, minimizes then closes.

I am not the only one who cannot get it running on Vista either as you can
see there are among hundreds of people with this problem:

http://vogons.zetafleet.com/viewtopic.php?t=15412&sid=d83bb96204ea6f54a940aa2d57
11e8f2


http://www.compatdb.org/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/178301/page/1

http://z9.invisionfree.com/Keeper_Klan_Forum/index.php?showtopic=1350

http://z9.invisionfree.com/Keeper_Klan_Forum/index.php?showtopic=1092

Is there any patch to get it running on vista? Changing the compatibility
options don't work either!

Will Microsoft actually do anything for this?

Please let me know. Regards.
VRG Scotty - 14 Feb 2008 18:54 GMT
>I am at the end of my tether!
>
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>
> Will Microsoft actually do anything for this?

It has nothing to do with M$ it is upto the game makers to supply a patch..
But I have Gold running on my Vista machine.  Installed as administrator,
didn't have to do anything else.
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VRG Scotty - 14 Feb 2008 18:58 GMT
> It has nothing to do with M$ it is upto the game makers to supply a
> patch.. But I have Gold running on my Vista machine.  Installed as
> administrator, didn't have to do anything else.

Found this on VRG
Hi there. Believe it or not, I just finished the entire game again
(for the nth time), but this time on Vista! I was having the exact
same issues as you, crashing, freezing... then I went into the Windows
DEP (Window key+pause - Advanced System Settings - Performace tab,
Settings - Data Execution Prevention tab - Add) then add the
Keeper95.exe to the list. Then go into the program file Keeper95.exe,
right click it and choose compatibility - Windows XP SP2. Now after
all this, if I run the game from the shortcut it won't work! You have
to go into the program files\bullfrog\keeper\ and run the game by
directly clicking on keeper95.exe. Weird, but worked every time!
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Andy [YaYa] - 14 Feb 2008 20:53 GMT
>> It has nothing to do with M$ it is upto the game makers to supply a
>> patch.. But I have Gold running on my Vista machine.  Installed as
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> to go into the program files\bullfrog\keeper\ and run the game by
> directly clicking on keeper95.exe. Weird, but worked every time!

I tried that, didn't help me, I did something else to get the game working,
but won't know til I get home tonight. DOSBox is still my recommendation.
The game in DOS lacks some things, but it's playable.

DK2 runs better, but fans don't seem to like that version as much.

-A.
ana.paklons@gmail.com - 27 Feb 2008 15:14 GMT
I tried that windows DEP trick too, didn't work for me either. Now it
just does nothing at all.
Anyone has some different ideas? I've checked practically every forum
there is on this subject and noone seems to have a solution that works
for me! It's always 'just change your compatibillity settings', but
that also doesn't work.

How does DOSbox work? Maybe after all, I'll have to try that...

Ana

> >> It has nothing to do with M$ it is upto the game makers to supply a
> >> patch.. But I have Gold running on my Vista machine.  Installed as
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Andy [YaYa] - 27 Feb 2008 16:19 GMT
DOSBox is a GREAT program, it's basically an emulator that emulates an old
DOS system running with old ISA (dos friendly) sound cards like the SB16 and
Gravis UltraSound.

If you have old DOS games, more than likely DOSBox can run them.

It is an emulator though, so you need a fairly robust system to get good
performance out of it, and setup is a little tricky, but once it's working
it should run DK. Best thing to do is Google something like "Dungeon Keeper
DOSBox How-TO."

See what comes up. http://www.dosbox.com/comp_list.php?showID=758&letter=D

Been reading notes online since Dungeon Keeper used to be for Pentium it
requires a fairly high end system to run in DOSBox.

That DEP trick never works

Here's a link to the DOSBox tutorial... live it, love it.
http://www.dosbox.com/wiki/Basic_Setup_and_Installation_of_DosBox

I tried that windows DEP trick too, didn't work for me either. Now it
just does nothing at all.
Anyone has some different ideas? I've checked practically every forum
there is on this subject and noone seems to have a solution that works
for me! It's always 'just change your compatibillity settings', but
that also doesn't work.

How does DOSbox work? Maybe after all, I'll have to try that...

Ana

On 14 feb, 21:53, "Andy [YaYa]" <android8...@MAPSONhotmail.com> wrote:
> "VRG Scotty" <vrg-sco...@vistareadygames.com> wrote in message
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fredskis - 27 Mar 2008 06:51 GMT
Hi all. I have been trying to get Dungeon Keeper working with Vista for
a couple of days.
I think I'm onto something but am not really sure what yet so just bare
with me...

On my desktop (Vista Ultimate x64) I get the problem of DK crashing
after the splash screen with a black 640*480 box and no error messages.
I installed it in a 98SE virtual machine using VMWare and it runs well
except the cursor randowly snaps to edges and renders the game pretty
unplayable as selecting anything becomes a very tedious chore.
I also installed it on Microsoft Virtual PC and as on Vista it would
crash after the splash screen.
I was going to install it on an old system running Windows 98SE
natively but while doing so decided to try one last thing...
I installed DK on my laptop (also running Vista Ultimate x64) and voila
it worked! Unfortunately the Direct3d won't work but for some reason it
works on there.
Now for the weird part...
I brought my laptop home from my girlfriend's place and tried playing
on my desktop's monitor but got the same error of crash at splash.
Puzzled I realised that the only change was the resolution, i turned it
back down to the laptop's 1440*900 from 1680*1050 and it worked.
Excitedly I tried this on my desktop but unfortunately it did not work
:(

Now the only thing I can think of being different between these two
machines other than the hardware would be Service Pack 1. However, this
problem, as I understand, has been occurring to others since before it
was released.

If anyone can get it running, what are their system specs?

My laptop is:
Dell Inspiron 6400
Core 2 Duo processor 2Ghz
2GB RAM
NVidia 7300Go
1440*900 resolution

Desktop:
Gigabyte EX38-DS4
Intel E6600
4GB generic RAM
NVidia 8800GTS G92
1680*1050 resolution

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Andy [YaYa] - 27 Mar 2008 17:04 GMT
> Hi all. I have been trying to get Dungeon Keeper working with Vista for
> a couple of days.
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> NVidia 8800GTS G92
> 1680*1050 resolution

I can't believe so many people still play DK 1. Do you play the Deeper Dungeons expansion?

You may be on to something with the resolution, older DirectX games would sometimes have "trouble" changing resolutions in games. The workaround was to set your computer to the same resolution/color depth that the game runs in.

So if DK runs in 640x480x256 colors, set your desktop to 640x480x256 (8-bit) color, and try the game again.

Oh wait, Vista only goes down to 800x600. Well maybe DK runs in 800x600.

DOSBox buddy, a friend to classic games everywhere.

-A.
alfalfa_89 - 04 Jun 2008 23:53 GMT
ok, i have a different problem with vista, cant seem to find many others
with this complaint. I've installed the patch, compatible XPsp2, all
that stuff... but when i go to open a campain  or skirmish or pet
dungeon, the game screen is blank. i can pick up imps, if i float my
hand over an area it'll tell me if its the dungeon heart or walls or
whatever, i can select where to dig, but i cant see a thing!
Anyone know what to do?

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fredskis - 05 Jun 2008 04:59 GMT
That sounds weird. Maybe DirectX didn't install properly?

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alfalfa_89 - 05 Jun 2008 09:57 GMT
actually... there was a problem with that the first time i tried
installing it...

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Andy [YaYa] - 05 Jun 2008 16:43 GMT
> ok, i have a different problem with vista, cant seem to find many
> others with this complaint. I've installed the patch, compatible
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> walls or whatever, i can select where to dig, but i cant see a thing!
> Anyone know what to do?

DK is extremely difficult to get running under Vista. I would suggest
setting the compatibility tab to Windows 95. Disable Desktop
Composition, and visual themes. Do a little prayer, and try again.

I've heard people will run DK in DOS mode with DOSBox.

Here's another possiblity, I recall trying this and could not get it to
work, but your milage may vary...

(-quote-)
I went into the Windows
DEP (Window key+pause - Advanced System Settings - Performace tab,
Settings - Data Execution Prevention tab - Add) then add the
Keeper95.exe to the list. Then go into the program file Keeper95.exe,
right click it and choose compatibility - Windows XP SP2. Now after
all this, if I run the game from the shortcut it won't work! You have
to go into the program files\bullfrog\keeper\ and run the game by
directly clicking on keeper95.exe. Weird, but worked every time!
(-end-quote-)

Thanks VRG Scotty.

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Wizard of OCD - 05 Jun 2008 17:44 GMT
here are all your answers for DK2 haven't tried with DK1

with DK2 you need to find the last patch that was put out, then you have
 to disable visual themes, and composition and run as administrator
alfalfa_89 - 05 Jun 2008 22:25 GMT
I've tried that, haver the latest patch and dissabled both those
options, game screen is still blank.

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Andy [YaYa] - 09 Jun 2008 15:50 GMT
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> I've tried that, haver the latest patch and dissabled both those
> options, game screen is still blank.

Did you try my suggestions about DEP?

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tnuts - 03 Jul 2008 07:03 GMT
open the game and go to options, graphic options, and disable hardware
acceleration. i was having the same issue and this fixed it for me. alfalfa_89;736904 Wrote:
> ok, i have a different problem with vista, cant seem to find many others
> with this complaint. I've installed the patch, compatible XPsp2, all
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DarkMisstress - 14 Feb 2008 19:02 GMT
> >I am at the end of my tether!
> >
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> But I have Gold running on my Vista machine.  Installed as administrator,
> didn't have to do anything else.

Fair enough, but surely MS can alter the compatibility list, seeing as they
are the ones who decided to bring out new software.

I've just tried running it as an administrator, but it still doesnt work.
Does the exact same thing. Any other solutions? Thanks.
DarkMisstress - 14 Feb 2008 19:35 GMT
That doesn't work either I'm afraid.

Managed to find any other potential solutions? Thanks.

> > >I am at the end of my tether!
> > >
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> I've just tried running it as an administrator, but it still doesnt work.
> Does the exact same thing. Any other solutions? Thanks.
Greg R - 14 Feb 2008 20:42 GMT
When you do find a way to get it to work please post here what it is you do
to get it working!  It's one of my all time favorite games and I'd hate to
not be able to play it anymore.  Getting a new gaming notebook next week and
it is loaded with Vista Ultimate 64.  I'm hope VRG Scotty's solution works
for me if I run into problems, but I'm counting on DarkMisstress if it
doesn't! Of course I'll post anything I find too.

Best of luck to you!

> That doesn't work either I'm afraid.
>
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>> I've just tried running it as an administrator, but it still doesnt work.
>> Does the exact same thing. Any other solutions? Thanks.
Andy [YaYa] - 14 Feb 2008 20:52 GMT
>I am at the end of my tether!
>
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>
> Please let me know. Regards.

Wow, 100 people still play Dungeon Keeper? Don't get me wrong, Dungeon
Keeper is the "bee's-knees", but really, 100?

I got it running, forget how, but I believe I used DOSBox and that worked,
and I also ran it in Vista using a lot of compatibility tweaks. I can't for
the life of me remember how.

FYI, good for you keeping the spirit of Bullfrog alive. John Riccitello from
EA just stated that destroying Bullfrog was one of EA's "Biggest Mistakes".

-A.
DarkMisstress - 21 Feb 2008 21:35 GMT
Anybody else managed to discover anything which may make DK1 work on vista
without having to use Dosbox which really limits what you can do. i.e :
Editor, Direct 3D, plays in a small window, lags etc.

Thankyou!
PuPp3t - 04 Jul 2008 16:13 GMT
How I installled Dungeon Keeper on Vista.......1.) Make sure the Bullfrog Directory has no Dungeon Keeper II&nbsp;Folder before re-installing.....2.) Install DKII from original disk and Play it first before any update is applied..... It will Default @ 800x600...3.)The only update that works is the v1.30tov1.61....The v1.30tov1.70 some how must reset cfg to 640x800...Ive uninstalled and re-installed several times on a compaq w/AMD TL-60 w/Nvidia 7000m and works evey time this way...P.s&gt; Still gotta crack 1.7....

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