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Windows Forum / Windows Vista / Games / September 2007Games In General
Last week i bought a new pc from pcworld with home basic on , i was exited to start playing my games on my much better pc Then when i installed the games they ran so slow that it is impossible to play them which is quite bad considering my very old 800mhz athlon k-2 slot computer could play games better than my new Intel celeron d 3.33ghz computer. Plus even worse i cant load any Half-Life 2 games off steam this is basically any game on steam using the hl2.exe, when i try to load hl2.exe i just get "hl2.exe has stopped working" But the slow games is most important Can anyone help me please? Thanks Well, without more specs, I'm not sure how much help we can offer. The short answer is, I can play all the games on Steam under both Vista32 and Vista64, so the problem you are seeing is something on your side. Of course,a look over in the valve forums and Steam is not a problem just under Vista, but plenty of XP users are still having issues. A couple of questions would be, Have you downloaded the latest video card drivers, have you downloaded any updated motherboard drivers, Sound card drivers etc etc. Also, can you quantify "slow games" Were you running doom3 at 100fps adn now you getting 50fps ? Fear at 50fps and now 30 fps ? Again, a list of your hardware components will help us understand what to look for. On a side note, Vista is expected to be 5-10% slower than XP in the vide games department. I would say that' teh case overall. In games like doom3, I'm seeing more in the neighborhood of a 20% slowdown (I get 131fps in XP and 110 under Vista32), but that is likely due to pool OpenGL support in the current drivers > Last week i bought a new pc from pcworld with home basic on , i was exited > to [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > Thanks hmm pc specs , uill turn to dxdiag and my xfire gaming rig for this Manufacturer: Pc World Processor: Intel(R) Celeron(R) D CPU 3.33GHz, ~3.3GHz Memory: 446MB RAM Hard Drive: 154 GB Video Card: VIA Chrome9 HC IGP WDDM Monitor: 15 Inch Lcd Monitor Sound Card: Speakers (Realtek High Definition Audio) Speakers/Headphones: On Board Keyboard: Microsoft PS/2 Keyboard Mouse: HID-compliant mouse Mouse Surface: Funky mouse mat with gel pad and a built in calculator Operating System: Windows Vista™ Home Basic (6.0, Build 6000) (6000.vista_rtm.061101-2205) and the game that seems to lag the most is Sin Episodes Emergence , i get 0-2 fps o_0 I don't want to insult your new system, but your ram is way below anything I would suggest for Vista and Vista gaming. I run 2GB of ram, and under HL2, I can get up to 1.5GB in use under vista. 446 Meg is an odd number to begig with, though I'm guessing the video card is using 64 meg,w hich means you have 512. And you video card is horrible. You really need a video card with it's own dedicated memory and it looks like you are using Vista's basic driver for it, instead of a driver from VIA or PCworld. I understand you may be on a budget and you got the best you could afford, but in the case of the video card, "you got hosed billy you got hosed." I'm guessing that you're older system had a better video card. Intergrated video cards are good for basic computers, but when you mention gaming, they are the suck. I believe your specs say you have a open PCI-E slot, for as little as $50 you can get the nVidia 7300. It's not going to set to speed records, but will at least let you play HL2 and other games, alot better than what're you playing with now at that http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.asp?N=2010380048+4026&Submit=ENE&SubCa tegory=48 > hmm pc specs , uill turn to dxdiag and my xfire gaming rig for this > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > and the game that seems to lag the most is Sin Episodes Emergence , i get > 0-2 fps o_0 well my old computer did have a nvidia geforce but its agp , and my new pc can only take pci-e , but im wondering before i waste my money , is it deffinatly the graphics card causing this OH and ive got vista via drivers, no differance :( > well my old computer did have a nvidia geforce but its agp , and my new pc > can only take pci-e , but im wondering before i waste my money , is it > deffinatly the graphics card causing this > > OH and ive got vista via drivers, no differance :( You need 1GB RAM.  SignatureConor Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak......... Well, without touching it, I don't know that anyone will be able to absolutely confirm it, but you could buy the $50 card from newegg and if it doesn't work, you would have to pay a 20% restocking fee to send it back, granted that's $10, but at least it's not $50 if it doesn't work. I can't imagine the integrated card being worth a nickle's worth of dogmeat for gaming. > well my old computer did have a nvidia geforce but its agp , and my new pc > can only take pci-e , but im wondering before i waste my money , is it > deffinatly the graphics card causing this > > OH and ive got vista via drivers, no differance :( What sort of price range are we looking at here? The minimum requirements for Windows Vista is 512MB of RAM, so they shouldn't even be selling that system. The graphics card is woefully under powered too. I'd seriously consider going back to PC World, quote a few bits of consumer protection laws at them, like the system being unsuitable for the purpose of which it was sold. And have them put a better graphics card in there Radeon X1600 should do the job, and put 1GB of RAM into the system, it'll cost you a bit more, but the machine will be able to play games then. I'd also suggest Windows Vista Home Premium instead of Basic. SignaturePaul Smith, Yeovil, UK. Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User. http://www.windowsresource.net/ *Remove nospam. to reply by e-mail* > hmm pc specs , uill turn to dxdiag and my xfire gaming rig for this > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > and the game that seems to lag the most is Sin Episodes Emergence , i get > 0-2 fps o_0 I must differ. I have Vista Home Premium, 2 Gig ram, AMD Athlon 64 x 2 and Nvidia GeoForce 6150LE and a 320 Gig drive and none of the games that ran on XP or 98SE, even Quake II, Half-Life, Heretic none of them will even install. Once I get past all the windoze popups about Installing from an unknown author, and getting my permission to do the first thing I wanted - to install, I get a popup from windoze offering 2 choices, end the process or search MS for a solution- which so far, has done nothing to provide a solution for any of the problems. Vista is just XP with a new face and more problems. I've probably searched for 50-60 solutions because Vista can't handle the simplest of installation instuctions. The only thing that works is, solitaire. > What sort of price range are we looking at here? > [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > > and the game that seems to lag the most is Sin Episodes Emergence , i get > > 0-2 fps o_0 Please take a look at your thread on this. I suspect you don't have the nvidia release of the drivers, and openGL is still spotty. But it works great on a ATI card :P >I must differ. I have Vista Home Premium, 2 Gig ram, AMD Athlon 64 x 2 and > Nvidia GeoForce 6150LE and a 320 Gig drive and none of the games that ran [quoted text clipped - 51 lines] >> > get >> > 0-2 fps o_0 > I must differ. I have Vista Home Premium, 2 Gig ram, AMD Athlon 64 x 2 and > Nvidia GeoForce 6150LE and a 320 Gig drive and none of the games that ran on [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > solution for any of the problems. Vista is just XP with a new face and more > problems. Still using pre 100.xx versions of nVidia drivers? SignatureConor Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak......... > Last week i bought a new pc from pcworld with home basic on , i was exited to > start playing my games on my much better pc [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Can anyone help me please? Yes. Try buying a proper processor. A Celeron is OK for general use, i.e Word, email and web browsing, but its bugger all use in gaming. SignatureConor Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak......... There's an old saying. You get what you pay for. I hope you didn't pay much for your PC. >> Last week i bought a new pc from pcworld with home basic on , i was >> exited to [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > Try buying a proper processor. A Celeron is OK for general use, i.e > Word, email and web browsing, but its bugger all use in gaming. NOO DON'T DO IT!! Ok guys, i am having the same thing coming up when trying to open day of defeat source, while just regular counter strike, not running on a source engine, works. So, you guys are basically saying it's his hardware...no its not my specs: Windows Vista home premium Intel Quad Core CPU 2.00 GB RAM Nvidia 8800 GTX ASUS commando motherboard Signaturebabacanoosh I have the set of Half Life. When I try to run Half Life 2: Source, Half Life 2 and Lost Coast I constantly get the above error message. All the other games run perfectly including HL2 episode One, CSS, Opp FOrce etc. I have played Doom 3, Breed, Painkiller, Warhammer all equally successfully. Discussions and suggestions from the Steam team have not helped, they have run out of ideas (4 weeks of trying to solve the prob). As you can imagine this is incredibly frustrating because logicaly if I can play Episode One tinker around with SDK etc then i should be able to play the others! Firstly the error report: Problem Event Name: APPCRASH Application Name: hl2.exe Application Version: 0.0.0.0 Application Timestamp: 431fc08b Fault Module Name: StackHash_918b Fault Module Version: 0.0.0.0 Fault Module Timestamp: 00000000 Exception Code: c0000005 Exception Offset: 00000000 OS Version: 6.0.6000.2.0.0.768.3 Locale ID: 3081 Additional Information 1: 918b Additional Information 2: ed5f1ef2d5a5b3eda9675ce41c8eed63 Additional Information 3: cb9b Additional Information 4: 010cd18a31d7ea70968c77b22d9c0c18 Next my computer specs: OS Name Microsoft® Windows Vista™ Home Premium Version 6.0.6000 Build 6000 Other OS Description Not Available OS Manufacturer Microsoft Corporation System Name My Computer System Manufacturer TOSHIBA System Model Satellite A100 System Type X86-based PC Processor Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU T5200 @ 1.60GHz, 1600 Mhz, 2 Core(s), 2 Logical Processor(s) BIOS Version/Date Phoenix Technologies LTD 5.60, 9/03/2007 SMBIOS Version 2.4 Windows Directory C:\Windows System Directory C:\Windows\system32 Boot Device \Device\HarddiskVolume2 Locale Australia Hardware Abstraction Layer Version = "6.0.6000.16386" User Name My Computer Time Zone W. Australia Standard Time Total Physical Memory 1,021.44 MB Available Physical Memory 627.76 MB Total Virtual Memory 2.44 GB Available Virtual Memory 1.72 GB Page File Space 1.50 GB Page File C:\pagefile.sys I cant think of anything else except that every driver is updated, so is vista and everything else is tweaked. There are no conflicts, I have even done a game combatibility test to see if it will run on this system, it said "enjoy the game" Please can someonehelp? SignatureActionfan http://forums.techarena.in I have had the same problem with some of my games. First off, vista is incompatible with older games. Games for the windows 98 and such. Second, make sure you have all the updated drivers for your vid card and vista. Then go to the game site and download the latest patch for the game. If your computer still wont run the game, right click on the desktop icon, go to the properties menu, and put the game in Compatiblity mode of XP and click run as admin. Then right click the desktop icon and click run as admin. If this does not work, I am afraid the game might just not work on that machine with vista as a operating system. If that is the case, then download and run Linux as a second partition to run games with. Let me know if this helps at all. |
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