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Windows Forum / Windows Vista / Hardware / October 2007limit/disable ATI hypermemory Vista
OK, I am on a Thinkpad T60 with an ATI X1300 graphics adapter, I can not "Add a Graphics card" and have already have 3GB of memory but the hypermemory is using too much memory (Vista). I want to limit of disable/adjust Hypermemory (no need for comments of add more memory or get a graphic card!). 1,343MB is allocated to Hypermemory, I do not play games, I work on this machine and that much play memory is useless to me. (maybe Vista is useless too). Using ATI Catalyst Controil Center Version 2007.0314.2238.38622 and I see no way of adjusting it and recovering a GB of memory for real work. By the way, I am running out of memory addresses because of this big glob of nothing that even slows down startup! Help! Or I am going back to XP Pro (forever). > I want to limit of disable/adjust Hypermemory (no need for comments of > add more memory or get a graphic card!). 1,343MB is allocated to > Hypermemory, I do not play games, I work on this machine and that much > play memory is useless to me. (maybe Vista is useless too). Where are you reading that 1.3GB is allocated to the graphics card?  SignaturePaul Smith, Yeovil, UK. Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User. http://www.dasmirnov.net/blog/ http://www.windowsresource.net/ *Remove nospam. to reply by e-mail* did you checkin the bios to make sure it's not being setup from there? SignatureNew Boating Capt. Jonathan Perreault Personnal Advice To You: #1: Do Not Undermine Windows's Work, Or It'll Undermine You As A User. #2: Torture Windows (Any) Now Before It Tortures You #3: Windows Is Bad Enough In English, Why Get It In Another Language Best Comments From Users: No Matter The Problem Even With Linux, It's Microsoft's And Windows's Faults A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools. > OK, I am on a Thinkpad T60 with an ATI X1300 graphics adapter, I can > not "Add a Graphics card" and have already have 3GB of memory but the [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Help! Or I am going back to XP Pro (forever). P A U L : [/B]:SMILE: GRAPHICS CARD MANUFACTURER POWERED BY ATI GRAPHICS CHIPSET ATI MOBILITY RADEON X1300 DEVICE ID 7149 VENDOR 1002 SUBSYSTEM ID 2005 SUBSYSTEM VENDOR ID 17AA BUS TYPE PCI EXPRESS CURRENT BUS SETTING PCI EXPRESS BIOS VERSION 009.012.001.025 BIOS PART NUMBER BK-ATI VER009.012.001.025 BIOS DATE 2006/12/21 MEMORY SIZE 1343 MB MEMORY TYPE HYPERMEMORY CORE CLOCK IN MHZ 392 MHZ MEMORY CLOCK IN MHZ 324 MHZ PRIMARY DISPLAY YES FROM CATALYST CONTROL CENTER.... AND THE SYSTEM RUNS OUT OF MEMORY AT 68 TO 71% PER THE TASK MANAGER.. (SOME OF THE HYPERMEMORY LOOKS LIKE IT IS FREE MEMORY BUT DOES NOT SEEM TO BE USEABLE?) [B] N E W B O A T I N G C A P T . J O N A T H A N : R E D F A C E : Sorry my post reflected a level of fustration, I would appreciate your help and experience. I have a great deal of experience (DOS/VS, VM, MVS++, OS/390, Unix++, PC/MS DOS, W3.1 to Vista, NT to W23K). and I like to solve problems like this... I would like a reference where these settings can be modified or managed, I would rather not be restricted from access to my own machine. Silly approaches like moving to a different OS is not an answer, it is a vent of fustration. I hope you or someone will consider pointing me in a direction to solve this... I will post the results for all to see. +-------------------------------------------------------------------+ |Filename: CatalystControlCenter.JPG | |Download: http://www.tabletquestions.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=94| +-------------------------------------------------------------------+ Signaturegjpyne Translator French - English - Creole;743407 Wrote: > did you checkin the bios to make sure it's not being setup from there? > > Yes I did check the BIOS and found no way of adjusting any display > adapter settings (there was some Monitor settings but no adapter or > memory settings). Signaturegjpyne how about jumper settings if it's a desktop you might have a jumper that sets up your memory SignatureNew Boating Capt. Jonathan Perreault Personnal Advice To You: #1: Do Not Undermine Windows's Work, Or It'll Undermine You As A User. #2: Torture Windows (Any) Now Before It Tortures You #3: Windows Is Bad Enough In English, Why Get It In Another Language Best Comments From Users: No Matter The Problem Even With Linux, It's Microsoft's And Windows's Faults A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools. > > Translator French - English - Creole;743407 Wrote: [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >> adapter settings (there was some Monitor settings but no adapter or >> memory settings). gipyne, A system BIOS for a desktop does not normally contain Monitor settings so maybe they are actually adapter settings. Did you review them to be sure that they were not adapter settings? In my Bios in a different make/model of MOBO they are labeled as Video settings so you might check to see if you have any of those. > how about jumper settings if it's a desktop you might have a jumper that > sets up your memory [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >>> adapter settings (there was some Monitor settings but no adapter or >>> memory settings). good point, although it could be something to see if you want to use the integrated graphic card or not but yes good idea to check SignatureNew Boating Capt. Jonathan Perreault Personnal Advice To You: #1: Do Not Undermine Windows's Work, Or It'll Undermine You As A User. #2: Torture Windows (Any) Now Before It Tortures You #3: Windows Is Bad Enough In English, Why Get It In Another Language Best Comments From Users: No Matter The Problem Even With Linux, It's Microsoft's And Windows's Faults A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools. > gipyne, > A system BIOS for a desktop does not normally contain Monitor settings so [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] >>>> adapter settings (there was some Monitor settings but no adapter or >>>> memory settings). One of the choices in my Video Bios setting is what do I want to use as my primary graphics card. It is the only place I can tell My BIOS to use a PCI card instead of the onboard graphics chip. > good point, although it could be something to see if you want to use the > integrated graphic card or not but yes good idea to check [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] >>>>> adapter settings (there was some Monitor settings but no adapter or >>>>> memory settings). humm just like i said well i'm sorry but i can't help you anymore i'm more familiar of regular ram not hypermemory SignatureNew Licensed Boating Capt. Jonathan Perreault http://www.AllAboutGames.BraveHost.com - note: click continue, when it ask about security certificate - Best Comments From Users: Vista is satan's way to bring hell to earth. A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools. No Matter The Problem Even With Linux, It's Microsoft's And Windows's Faults Personnal Advice To You: #1: Do Not Undermine Windows's Work, Or It'll Undermine You As A User. #2: Torture Windows (Any) Now Before It Tortures You #3: Windows Is Bad Enough In English, Why Get It In Another Language > One of the choices in my Video Bios setting is what do I want to use as my > primary graphics card. It is the only place I can tell My BIOS to use a [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] >>>>>> adapter settings (there was some Monitor settings but no adapter or >>>>>> memory settings). Update! Semi resolved. On my ThinkPad T60 I installed a new disk and did a new clean install of Vista (Ultimate). My intent was to swap disks back and forth untill I built a new clean system with all my software (Office, MS SQL 2005, Studio, Cygwin, GVim, MySQL and Skype... but this time without the ATI controls using only MS Vista Windows software (no HW vendors). The initial install reset the Hypermemory to what the documentation said it should be (25%) which is high but OK. To get some work done I rebooted to my original Vista Configuration and I was happily supprized to find that the Vista install altered my BIOS (which was not available via the normal BIOS settings) to use 25% of my memory for Hyper memory - down to 831MB from the 1343MB it had been. Booting is still slow but somewhat improved, once in a steady state with Outlook and RDM to another system physical memory was only at 55% which is a great improvement and responsiveness is also improved.. Still would like BIOS access to the hypermemory settings. Any Thinkpad hardware/software Engineers out there? |
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