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poorrich - 17 Feb 2008 06:25 GMT
I can receive email with attachments with no problem. I can send email
without attachments with no problem. Whenever I attempt to send an email
with any attachment, small or large, the system times out and gives me
an error message

"Task 'mail.comcast.net - Sending' reported error (0x8004210B) : 'The
operation timed out waiting for a response from the sending (SMTP)
server. If you continue to receive this message, contact your server
administrator or Internet service provider (ISP).' "

It does not seem to be the program - Outlook - since I tried another
email program and got the same results. My wife sends emails with no
problem on another computer in the same network and same ISP.

My gut tells me it is windows Vista Home Premium since it all started
with the new computer.

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...winston [MS MVP] - 17 Feb 2008 07:17 GMT
Email scanning outgoing disabled in AV, third party firewall if present, resident malware scanner ?

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I can receive email with attachments with no problem. I can send email
without attachments with no problem. Whenever I attempt to send an email
with any attachment, small or large, the system times out and gives me
an error message

"Task 'mail.comcast.net - Sending' reported error (0x8004210B) : 'The
operation timed out waiting for a response from the sending (SMTP)
server. If you continue to receive this message, contact your server
administrator or Internet service provider (ISP).' "

It does not seem to be the program - Outlook - since I tried another
email program and got the same results. My wife sends emails with no
problem on another computer in the same network and same ISP.

My gut tells me it is windows Vista Home Premium since it all started
with the new computer.

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poorrich

Gary VanderMolen - 17 Feb 2008 18:07 GMT
You will get more assistance by posting this in an Outlook newsgroup:
news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.outlook.general

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Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP (WLMail)

> I can receive email with attachments with no problem. I can send email
> without attachments with no problem. Whenever I attempt to send an email
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> My gut tells me it is windows Vista Home Premium since it all started
> with the new computer.
amunson52 - 17 Feb 2008 23:11 GMT
> I can receive email with attachments with no problem. I can send email
> without attachments with no problem. Whenever I attempt to send an email
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> My gut tells me it is windows Vista Home Premium since it all started
> with the new computer.
amunson52 - 17 Feb 2008 23:14 GMT
I am having the exact same problem with my new laptop. I'm using window email
in Vista ultimate,  and I use comcast too. I wonder if comcast mail is
conflicting with vista.

> I can receive email with attachments with no problem. I can send email
> without attachments with no problem. Whenever I attempt to send an email
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> My gut tells me it is windows Vista Home Premium since it all started
> with the new computer.
robertmiles@bellsouthNOSPAM.net - 17 Feb 2008 23:47 GMT
>I am having the exact same problem with my new laptop. I'm using window
>email
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>> My gut tells me it is windows Vista Home Premium since it all started
>> with the new computer.

Both of you may want to check your Comcast email account under
Windows Mail.

<http://www.comcast.net/help/faq/index.jsp?faq=Emailtop17686&cookieattempt=1>

These instructions were written for use under Outlook Express,
but should also work under Windows Mail if you avoid the
One Click Fix.
amunson52 - 18 Feb 2008 00:22 GMT
contacted comast and received instructions to verify settings in mail. They
emailed me back within about 10, that was great. It seems to work. It took a
minute to push the attatchment thru, but no freeze ups.

> >I am having the exact same problem with my new laptop. I'm using window
> >email
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> but should also work under Windows Mail if you avoid the
> One Click Fix.
Bob F. - 18 Feb 2008 00:30 GMT
> contacted comast and received instructions to verify settings in mail.
> They
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>> but should also work under Windows Mail if you avoid the
>> One Click Fix.

Could you take a few seconds and tell us exactly what boxes were not checked
right ot what parameters were not loaded right?  Or was is so screwed up you
needed to start from scratch?
BobF.
tikijenn - 19 May 2008 15:19 GMT
My husband has the same problem except he uses charter mail.  What settings
did you have to adjust to fix the problem?

> I can receive email with attachments with no problem. I can send email
> without attachments with no problem. Whenever I attempt to send an email
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> My gut tells me it is windows Vista Home Premium since it all started
> with the new computer.
robertmiles@bellsouthNOSPAM.net - 19 May 2008 16:03 GMT
See if this gives you any help for his problem:

http://www.charter.com/customers/support.aspx?supportarticleid=1781

> My husband has the same problem except he uses charter mail.  What
> settings
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>> My gut tells me it is windows Vista Home Premium since it all started
>> with the new computer.
tikijenn - 19 May 2008 17:29 GMT
Charter suggested breaking up my emails so that the size won't be so large.  
Okay so that's fine but I still can't send messages with even one photo.

> See if this gives you any help for his problem:
>
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> >> My gut tells me it is windows Vista Home Premium since it all started
> >> with the new computer.
robertmiles@bellsouthNOSPAM.net - 19 May 2008 19:15 GMT
Are you closing all other programs that access the photos before you
attach them and leaving them closed until the message is sent?  Windows
Mail has problems attaching files that are still open else where.

> Charter suggested breaking up my emails so that the size won't be so
> large.
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>> >> My gut tells me it is windows Vista Home Premium since it all started
>> >> with the new computer.
Gary VanderMolen - 19 May 2008 21:34 GMT
Please post a copy of the complete error message.

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> Charter suggested breaking up my emails so that the size won't be so
> large.
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>> >> My gut tells me it is windows Vista Home Premium since it all started
>> >> with the new computer.
tikijenn - 19 May 2008 23:47 GMT
An unknown error has occurred. Subject '', Account: 'pop.charter.net',
Server: 'smtp.charter.net', Protocol: SMTP, Server Response: '421 charter.net
Lost connection to [24.178.143.44]', Port: 25, Secure(SSL): No, Server Error:
421, Error Number: 0x800CCC67

> Please post a copy of the complete error message.
>
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> >> >> My gut tells me it is windows Vista Home Premium since it all started
> >> >> with the new computer.
robertmiles@bellsouthNOSPAM.net - 20 May 2008 00:29 GMT
Unknown errors in Windows Mail are often due to interference from an
antivirus program, antispyware program, or antispam program.  List
what programs of those types you have, if any.  Also, have you ever had
a Norton or McAfee antivirus program installed on that computer?

Does your connection to that server cross over from one internet
provider's equipment to another's before it reaches the server?  If so,
such connections to port 25 are often blocked to cause trouble for
spammers, and you need to ask charter.net if their outgoing mail
server will accept outgoing mail through any other port, and if so,
where to find their instructions for switching over to the other port.
Just trying all the ports is a very slow way to find out, since there
are about 65,000 ports available, and it's unlikely that more than a few
of them will accept outgoing mail.  Such a port 25 block is seldom
applied only to mail with attachments, though.

> An unknown error has occurred. Subject '', Account: 'pop.charter.net',
> Server: 'smtp.charter.net', Protocol: SMTP, Server Response: '421
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>> >> >> started
>> >> >> with the new computer.
tikijenn - 20 May 2008 01:34 GMT
The computer has AVG on it and has never had another.  My connection to the
server does not cross over another provider.  We disabled AVG long enough to
try to send another email with photo attachments and that still didn't work.  
Do you have any other suggestions?

> Unknown errors in Windows Mail are often due to interference from an
> antivirus program, antispyware program, or antispam program.  List
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> >> >> >> started
> >> >> >> with the new computer.
robertmiles@bellsouthNOSPAM.net - 20 May 2008 01:54 GMT
Did you use the standard install for AVG?  If so, it often helps to
uninstall
it, then do a custom install where you tell it to leave out the part that
scans
email.

http://free.grisoft.com/ww.download?prd=afe

> The computer has AVG on it and has never had another.  My connection to
> the
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>> >> >> >> started
>> >> >> >> with the new computer.
Gary VanderMolen - 20 May 2008 03:12 GMT
Looks like a server time-out because your AVG is causing a delay
by scanning the attachment. Like Robert suggested, uninstall/reinstall
AVG without its email scanning module.

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Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP

> An unknown error has occurred. Subject '', Account: 'pop.charter.net',
> Server: 'smtp.charter.net', Protocol: SMTP, Server Response: '421
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>> >> >> started
>> >> >> with the new computer.
 
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