On Vista hardware_devices and a couple of other groups using
Windows Mail as News Reader there are always Not Downloaded
Message which means if I leave the group after reading ALL the
messages the Group is still high-lighted in Black as if there were
unread messages in Group. I can RIGHT CLICK and RUN
CatchUp and the group is no longer highlighted however if I go
back and check and there are no more messages to read it will
still show some # of Messages Not Downloaded and the Group
is Highlighted again. (The # shown Not Downloaded varies often.)

So I used Maintenance and cleared all messages and then removed
the entire account. Then I DELETED all the actual message groups
in C:\Users so there was no trace of the Groups. Then I redid the
Account and ReSubscribed to the Groups but no luck. The Groups
that do this are still doing it. Anyone else have this issue? I think it
started a couple of months back.

I realize I can have it mark All Messages Read when I exit a group
however I don't want that if I really have not read the ones I wanted.

Any ideas or is it an yet to be corrected defect?
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It sometimes helps to click Tools, then Get Next 300 Headers a few
times.

On Vista hardware_devices and a couple of other groups using
Windows Mail as News Reader there are always Not Downloaded
Message which means if I leave the group after reading ALL the
messages the Group is still high-lighted in Black as if there were
unread messages in Group. I can RIGHT CLICK and RUN
CatchUp and the group is no longer highlighted however if I go
back and check and there are no more messages to read it will
still show some # of Messages Not Downloaded and the Group
is Highlighted again. (The # shown Not Downloaded varies often.)

So I used Maintenance and cleared all messages and then removed
the entire account. Then I DELETED all the actual message groups
in C:\Users so there was no trace of the Groups. Then I redid the
Account and ReSubscribed to the Groups but no luck. The Groups
that do this are still doing it. Anyone else have this issue? I think it
started a couple of months back.

I realize I can have it mark All Messages Read when I exit a group
however I don't want that if I really have not read the ones I wanted.

Any ideas or is it an yet to be corrected defect?

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Tools | Options | Read
Uncheck the option to get 300 headers at a time.

Other than that they're called ghost messages and are caused by
synchronization errors between WinMail and the NNTP server.

I think that what you need to be doing is schronizing the account. Go to
Tools, then Schronize All and it will download everything.

On Vista hardware_devices and a couple of other groups using
Windows Mail as News Reader there are always Not Downloaded
Message which means if I leave the group after reading ALL the
messages the Group is still high-lighted in Black as if there were
unread messages in Group. I can RIGHT CLICK and RUN
CatchUp and the group is no longer highlighted however if I go
back and check and there are no more messages to read it will
still show some # of Messages Not Downloaded and the Group
is Highlighted again. (The # shown Not Downloaded varies often.)

So I used Maintenance and cleared all messages and then removed
the entire account. Then I DELETED all the actual message groups
in C:\Users so there was no trace of the Groups. Then I redid the
Account and ReSubscribed to the Groups but no luck. The Groups
that do this are still doing it. Anyone else have this issue? I think it
started a couple of months back.

I realize I can have it mark All Messages Read when I exit a group
however I don't want that if I really have not read the ones I wanted.

Any ideas or is it an yet to be corrected defect?