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Vista’s Windows Photo Gallery – Importing Pictures
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Nailz_Arizona - 18 Mar 2007 22:57 GMT Hello Everyone,
I have a question and hopefully someone can help.
I used to use IrfanView with XP but with Vista I am (or trying to) use the built-in Photo Gallery. The issue I am having is that when I import images from my camera via a memory card, I no longer have an option to select say a few files, give them a file name / tag. Instead, Vista just names ALL of the images that are being importing with whatever the Tag / File Name that is giving. I cannot find an option to change this, is this possible?
Also, is it possible to: - Edit the EXIF information (example: original picture date, etc…) - See images side by side?
Thank you in advance for any help.
Sincerely, Paul, Arizona USA
Dave Johnson [MSFT] - 21 Mar 2007 16:48 GMT Hi Paul.
Thanks for posting. The Import Photos experience in Windows Vista was optimized to get your photos from the camera to your hard drive quickly, in just a couple of mouse clicks, where you would then be able to use the Windows Photo Gallery to customize your photo collection. So while the import wizard only lets you add the same tag to all your photos at once (or not at all -- adding a tag is optional), you can then see all your photos in Photo Gallery and create any assortment of custom tags for your photos there.
In addition, you can change the date taken field for your photos in Windows Photo Gallery as well. To do that, select a photo and then change the date in the Info pane on the right side of the Gallery.
You can read more about importing your photos here:
http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Windows/en-US/Help/f17ebfe2-19c5-4083-82d7-2e37 cf2085651033.mspx#EKD
If you want to learn more about using tags in Photo Gallery, check out this help topic:
http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Windows/en-US/Help/a9f42cc1-d0a1-417f-b084-164a 00b1bd141033.mspx
And finally, here is a more detailed explanation of changing date/time settings on your photos:
http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Windows/en-US/Help/a9f42cc1-d0a1-417f-b084-164a 00b1bd141033.mspx
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Nailz_Arizona - 21 Mar 2007 18:40 GMT Thank you for the information Dave.
Are there plans to allow importing with greater flexibility/options for Vista? To be frank, the current system is just too limiting.
Thank you again, Paul
> Hi Paul. > [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > > http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Windows/en-US/Help/a9f42cc1-d0a1-417f-b084-164a 00b1bd141033.mspx Dave Johnson [MSFT] - 22 Mar 2007 17:10 GMT We're definitely hearing the feedback, Paul. I can say that the feature team is considering that in planning for future updates.
> Thank you for the information Dave. > [quoted text clipped - 38 lines] >> >> http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Windows/en-US/Help/a9f42cc1-d0a1-417f-b084-164a 00b1bd141033.mspx Jeff - 24 Mar 2007 00:05 GMT OMG So, Dave, what you're saying is: once you set all those options on what and where to import your photos, you CAN NOT change them. No way to reset and do over?? I cannot believe that something like this would be left out and that MS would assume that everyone would want ALL their images with the same tag(s) imported everytime a media card is plugged in.
> We're definitely hearing the feedback, Paul. I can say that the feature team > is considering that in planning for future updates. [quoted text clipped - 41 lines] > >> > >> http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Windows/en-US/Help/a9f42cc1-d0a1-417f-b084-164a 00b1bd141033.mspx Nailz_Arizona - 28 Mar 2007 02:45 GMT Dave,
Thank you for your quick response and information.
1) Can you give us an ETA of when improved photo importing will be implemented? 2) When one changes the dates in Windows Photo Gallery, does that update the EXIF data? I use a web site that displays the EXIF date & description so this is important to me. 3) In the meantime, does *ANYONE* know of a work-around or 3rd party applications that can do this better?
Thank you again, Paul
> OMG > So, Dave, what you're saying is: once you set all those options on what and [quoted text clipped - 49 lines] > > >> > > >> http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Windows/en-US/Help/a9f42cc1-d0a1-417f-b084-164a 00b1bd141033.mspx Dave Johnson [MSFT] - 29 Mar 2007 17:25 GMT Hi Paul,
> Thank you for your quick response and information. > > 1) Can you give us an ETA of when improved photo importing will be > implemented? I am afraid not, sorry.
> 2) When one changes the dates in Windows Photo Gallery, does that update > the > EXIF data? I use a web site that displays the EXIF date & description so > this > is important to me. Yes, it does.
> 3) In the meantime, does *ANYONE* know of a work-around or 3rd party > applications that can do this better? I am unaware of any programs that offer flexible tagging at import, but I am sure there might be some folks on this group that do.
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Dave Johnson [MSFT] - 29 Mar 2007 17:23 GMT Hi Jeff,
No, that's not what I'm saying at all. You can optionally assign one tag (or a set of tags separated by semicolons) to a batch of photos as they're imported. But after you get them in Photo Gallery, it's much more flexible environment for chnaging, adding, and removing tags. So, for example, this is the way I work:
1. I import a memory card fuill of photos, applying one "uuber" tag to all of the images at the time of import -- say, "vacation." 2. In Photo Gallery, I select the "vacation" tag so I see all these photos. 2. I find the one photo that wasn't a vacation shot -- it was a photo of my cat that I took before leaving the house -- and remove the "vacation" tag. I add "pets" to that photo. 3. Next, I select groups of photos and add additional tags, such as "sunset," "beach," and so on.
I understand that it isn't a workflow that appeals to everyone, but I like it, and it works really well in Vista.
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JojoS - 04 May 2007 20:44 GMT I realize this is an old thread. Have just been searching for how to voice my 2 cents on my frustration with this.
I like the XP import wizard much better because I often have new several events on my camera before I load them on the computer. Dave, I understand your method, but find it much more cumbersome than just selecting a few pix at a time in XP.
My own solution is to use my laptop with XP and send them to my networked (Vista) desktop. BTW - I love the ease of the networking in Vista!
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> Hi Jeff, > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > I understand that it isn't a workflow that appeals to everyone, but I like > it, and it works really well in Vista. Bob Krause - 07 May 2007 01:58 GMT Dave,
I understand your workflow, but it sounds very cumbersome to me. I should probably consider using tags, but I've always used the directory structure and filename to describe my photos. For instance, let's say I just got back from a vacation in Germany where I visited Dusseldorf on the 3rd and Berlin on the 4th and 5th. I would probably have the photos from both cities on one card. Here's the way I would have imported those photos in XP:
1) I would have created a new folder under my existing Pictures/Vacations folder called "Germany May 2007". 2) From the wizard I would have selected the photos of Dusseldorf, created a new folder named "Dusseldorf" and imported the selected photos into that folder using "Dusseldorf 05032007" as the base, deleting the imported photos only. 3) After completing the wizard, I would right-click the drive icon for my card and choose "Autoplay". 4) I'd do the same thing for the Berlin photos taken on the 4th, naming the photos "Berlin 05042007". 5) I'd run the wizard one more time, selecting the Berlin photos from the 5th, naming them "Berlin 05052007".
It's a very simple process that organizes the photos in a logical way and gives me a lot of information...even when looking at them in My Computer. The new Vista methodology seems to me that it would be a lot more tedious and time consuming.
Bob
> Hi Jeff, > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > I understand that it isn't a workflow that appeals to everyone, but I like > it, and it works really well in Vista. Azim Virani - 23 May 2007 09:32 GMT Hi Dave,
I have a similar problem to someone above. The first time I hooked up my camera through USB, and I selected the import photos options with the camera icon, I was given some choices as to where I would like the photos sent to, the location of the folder, name of folder, and the tag attached to each photo.
My problem now is that as soon as I click the import photos option in the autoplay menu, I am not given those options anymore. Where can I still access these options prior to going into the gallery, and how do I set Vista to ask me each time what options (tag / folder/ etc.) I want?
> Hi Jeff, > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > I understand that it isn't a workflow that appeals to everyone, but I like > it, and it works really well in Vista. stewartnmij - 01 May 2008 17:02 GMT Hello all, The way Vista works in importing pictures from a camera is clearly an oversight by the programmers that they did not provide an option to select and tag individual photos. The good news is that the program Picasa provided with my new Toshiba laptop does this.
But a message to Dave Johnson is that this does let Microsoft off the hook for fixing this inflexible feature in importing photos.
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> Hi Dave, > [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > > I understand that it isn't a workflow that appeals to everyone, but I like > > it, and it works really well in Vista. stewartnmij - 01 May 2008 15:30 GMT Hi Dave, I am disappointed that Vista does not allow selection of individual pictures to import as XP did. This is not a good feature, it is a serious limitation and an unnecessary change from what was a good system on XP. Even bringing up a window from my camera and a window from Pictures Vista does not allow me to drag and drop a selection of pictures from the camera to Pictures. You must change this soon and issue an update patch. It seems as if the Vista programmers were not on speaking terms with the XP programmers! I hope you can improve the import pictures soon to allow for more flexible importing of pictures.
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> Hi Jeff, > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > I understand that it isn't a workflow that appeals to everyone, but I like > it, and it works really well in Vista. Nailz_Arizona - 28 Mar 2007 02:04 GMT Dave thank you for responding.
More options, especially when it comes to naming/tagging files is very important and I'm happy to hear you guys are looking at improving this so that individual pictures can be tagged/named when imported.
1. Do you have an ETA when this may be implemented? 2. By changing the date via Windows Photo Gallery, does this change the EXIF information? I use a web site that collects the EXIF date & description to display so this is critical for me. 3. Until there is an update/improved photo importing implemented. Does *ANYONE* know of a good work-around?
Thank you again, Paul
> We're definitely hearing the feedback, Paul. I can say that the feature team > is considering that in planning for future updates. [quoted text clipped - 41 lines] > >> > >> http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Windows/en-US/Help/a9f42cc1-d0a1-417f-b084-164a 00b1bd141033.mspx NL12143 - 31 Jul 2007 22:56 GMT Stay away from software from Microsoft to change your Exif/IPTC data. i.e. Vista's Photo galerry, import wizard or PhotoInfo.
The markernotes by the camera ( Canon, Nikon) will be lost forever.
Use Photoshop Elements Organiser to add labels (tags). preferably backup the exif data before and apply these after editing. Most edit programs destroy makernotes. But not as bas as MS tools. With Adobe they can be re-inserted from a backup later. Passed through MS tools re-insert from a backup is simply imp[ossible :-(
> Thanks for posting. The Import Photos experience in Windows Vista was > optimized to get your photos from the camera to your hard drive quickly, in [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > > http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Windows/en-US/Help/a9f42cc1-d0a1-417f-b084-164a 00b1bd141033.mspx
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