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dannyd - 19 Apr 2008 21:29 GMT
I have installed windows vista home premium on many networks along side
windows XP and never had any problems. This time, I seem to have a very
stramge problem, the computers are both setup in there usual way and I can
see the Windows XP computer on the network but when i try and view the files
it displays a message telling my the file path is incorrect and I get the
error code: 0x80070035

Any ideas?

Thanks in advanced
Mick Murphy - 20 Apr 2008 07:03 GMT
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb727037.aspx

Have a read of the above link re Vista File and Printer Sharing.

Permissions/Share info is there as well.

If using Norton, McAfee, Trend Micro I.S., make sure file and printer
sharing is enabled in THEIR firewall .(LAN allowed)

1st thing to do is make sure that the Workgroup Name of ALL the computers is
the SAME.

In Vista Network and Sharing:

Network Discovery: ON (So it can see the other computers)

Network set to Private (Public is for hotspots, airports, etc)

File Sharing: ON

Public Folder Sharing: ON (Vista’s Public Folder is the same as XP’s Shared
Docs)

Password Protected: OFF (unless you want to set up identical usernames, and
passwords (they can be different) on ALL computers in your Network). If you
have it ON, you will be asked for a username and password when you try to
access a Vista computer from an XP computer, or a Vista Computer.

Also, If you haven’t done so already, run XP’s Network Setup Wizard (in
Start >All Programs >Accessories >Communications), and tell the Wizard to
enable File and Printer Sharing.
Or > Start > Control Panel > Network Connections > Set up a Home or Small
Office Network.

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> I have installed windows vista home premium on many networks along side
> windows XP and never had any problems. This time, I seem to have a very
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>
> Thanks in advanced
dannyd - 20 Apr 2008 10:41 GMT
I had a read through and it doesnt help. I am a computer repair man and I do
networking for a living so I know that the network is set up right. It is
displaying all the computers withing the network, but with one of them, when
i double-click it it returns that damb error message. It is truely an unusual
one and I have never seen or heard of it within my work force before.

> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb727037.aspx
>
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> >
> > Thanks in advanced
voodooagent22 - 22 Apr 2008 03:41 GMT
I am having the same issue.  Up until a week ago I was able to access my XP
computer from my Vista laptop and vice versa.  I also had links for each on
the respective desktops.  Then this weekend I went to access the XP computer
from Vista and no only do I get this error but my link has disappeared.  I
can still connected to the Vista computer from XP and Vista can still print
on the XP's printer.   Nothing has been changed since the last time I
connected. I had this working for the last 6 months, so I don't know why it
stopped working all of a sudden.
Travis Pryor - 22 Apr 2008 06:33 GMT
Sounds like the same problem I'm having.  It began with the installation of
Vista SP1.  I can't believe there's no way to uninstall it!  I hope MSFT is
listening...

> I have installed windows vista home premium on many networks along side
> windows XP and never had any problems. This time, I seem to have a very
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>
> Thanks in advanced
dannyd - 22 Apr 2008 11:04 GMT
Travis, sp1 has to install somewhere on your computer, asuming you can fin
where it installed you can delete it, this isnt exactly uninstaling it, but
it is damb close lol.
I think that, at the moment the Vista system is unstable and needs to been
fixed up and all these bus need to be fixed and so on.

> Sounds like the same problem I'm having.  It began with the installation of
> Vista SP1.  I can't believe there's no way to uninstall it!  I hope MSFT is
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> >
> > Thanks in advanced
Gordon - 22 Apr 2008 11:16 GMT
> Travis, sp1 has to install somewhere on your computer, asuming you can fin
> where it installed you can delete it, this isnt exactly uninstaling it,
> but
> it is damb close lol.

What a STUPID comment. Of course you can't just "delete" it - just like you
can't just "delete" any other application.
dannyd - 22 Apr 2008 11:29 GMT
actually you can. I have been working with computers for 13 years, and if
sh.t cant be uninstalled you can go delete it yourself, obvcourse this means
going into the registry and removing it from the registry too, but it can be
done

> > Travis, sp1 has to install somewhere on your computer, asuming you can fin
> > where it installed you can delete it, this isnt exactly uninstaling it,
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> What a STUPID comment. Of course you can't just "delete" it - just like you
> can't just "delete" any other application.
dannyd - 22 Apr 2008 11:08 GMT
Travis, SP1 has to install somewhere on your computer, if you can find out
where then you can delete it, it isnt exactly uninstalling it but it is damb
close. the thing we have to think about with Vista is that it is new on the
market and it is still full of bugs and is rather unstable.

> Sounds like the same problem I'm having.  It began with the installation of
> Vista SP1.  I can't believe there's no way to uninstall it!  I hope MSFT is
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> >
> > Thanks in advanced
Pete Stavrakoglou - 30 Apr 2008 20:20 GMT
> Travis, SP1 has to install somewhere on your computer, if you can find out
> where then you can delete it, it isnt exactly uninstalling it but it is
> damb
> close. the thing we have to think about with Vista is that it is new on
> the
> market and it is still full of bugs and is rather unstable.

I disagree, Vista is very, very stable.  I've experience no stability
problems.

As for SP1, you can't just delete it.  It's a patch to the operating system,
there is no "one place" it installs to.
dannyd - 30 Apr 2008 22:29 GMT
windows Vista is unstable, lots of the drivers close and certain utilities
become unresponsive very easily. there are networking issues where you are
disconected from networks for no actual reason and there is the problem where
you can't connect to some of the network folders.

as per service pack 1, it can be deleted, even if it installs in multiple
places, you find out where they are and you delete them like any other file,
as long as there is no protection, you can delete anything off you computer,
no matter what it is.

> > Travis, SP1 has to install somewhere on your computer, if you can find out
> > where then you can delete it, it isnt exactly uninstalling it but it is
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> As for SP1, you can't just delete it.  It's a patch to the operating system,
> there is no "one place" it installs to.
Pete Stavrakoglou - 01 May 2008 20:48 GMT
> windows Vista is unstable, lots of the drivers close and certain utilities
> become unresponsive very easily. there are networking issues where you are
> disconected from networks for no actual reason and there is the problem
> where
> you can't connect to some of the network folders.

My experience has not been like yours.  For me, Vista has been extremely
reliable out of the box over a year ago.  I have had some problems
connecting to some network folders but that's not a stability issue.

> as per service pack 1, it can be deleted, even if it installs in multiple
> places, you find out where they are and you delete them like any other
> file,
> as long as there is no protection, you can delete anything off you
> computer,
> no matter what it is.

Honestly, this sounds like crazy advice.  SP1 patches the operating system.
Files are installed in many locations, I imagine some even replace pre-SP1
OS files.  How do you just find the files and delete them and expect your OS
to work, especially if SP1 replaced some of those files?

>> > Travis, SP1 has to install somewhere on your computer, if you can find
>> > out
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>> system,
>> there is no "one place" it installs to.
Chuck [MVP] - 02 May 2008 05:38 GMT
>I have installed windows vista home premium on many networks along side
>windows XP and never had any problems. This time, I seem to have a very
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>
>Thanks in advanced

Danny,

The "0x80070035" is the Vista equivalent of an "Error 53" in Windows pre-Vista
(hex 35 = 53).  This is a "name not found".
<http://networking.nitecruzr.net/2005/06/mysterious-error-53-aka-name-not-found.html>
http://networking.nitecruzr.net/2005/06/mysterious-error-53-aka-name-not-found.html

On a small LAN, this is caused by name resolution, which typically uses SMBs
over NetBT over TCP/IP, being blocked, or dropped.
<http://networking.nitecruzr.net/2006/07/advanced-windows-networking-using.html>
http://networking.nitecruzr.net/2006/07/advanced-windows-networking-using.html

Take a look at logs from "browstat status", "ipconfig /all", "net config
server", and "net config workstation", from each computer, so we can diagnose
the problem.  Read this article, and linked articles, and follow instructions
precisely (Download browstat, and run all programs from a command window run as
admin):
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html#
AskingForHelp
>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html#
AskingForHelp


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Cheers,
Chuck, MS-MVP 2005-2007 [Windows - Networking]
http://networking.nitecruzr.net/

Dannemora - 03 May 2008 06:08 GMT
I have same problem also - Can see the XP computer from the Vista one
but cannot access the shared files on th XP machine.
Error message is "Error code:0x80070035" "The Networth path was not
found."
My workgroup names are the same on both machines and the XP Machine is
showing in the Vista Directory tree OK. I can see and access the Vista
Computer and its shared files OK from the XP machine
I have tried a number of the responses on a number of forums including
meticulously following Mick Murphys link to the Vista networking
solution _ it does not work, including switching off my Symantec 2008
fire wall and also trying the re configuration options suggested for
Symantec it in Mick Murphys link.
None of this works and I am reasonalbly Tech savvy with computers -
Pity the ordinary user who just wants a nice home network like he used
to have with XP. Wake up Microsoft or we will all go over to Linux
:rolleyes:

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