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Reboot disables file sharing if password protection is on

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leontet - 17 May 2008 21:48 GMT
Hi!

I just bought a new Lenovo 3000N200 laptop which came with Vista Home
Premium preinstalled. I connected it wirelessly to my home network. The other
PCs in this network are wired to the same ASUS wireless router and run WinXP.
All the machines are in the same workgroup. The network profile of my Vista
laptop is "Private".

Everything works fine until I enable password protected sharing (file
sharing ON, public folder sharing ON, password protected sharing ON) and
reboot the machine. I mention the system is working as expected until reboot.

After each reboot, I find both the file sharing and public folder sharing
set to OFF. Of course, the shared folders are not accessible via network. I
can set the two options back to ON and everything works fine again, but this
is unacceptably annoying!

If password protected sharing is set to OFF, file and folder sharing keep
their ON state even after reboot. But I want the protected sharing - it fits
my needs like a glove!

Does anyone have any idea what is going on with my Vista machine??? I love
the new network features in Vista, but this little malfunction is driving me
crazy! Any input would be greatly appreciated -- thanks in advance!
Robert L. (MS-MVP) - 17 May 2008 23:32 GMT
The Vista Home edition doesn't remember the credentials. Create a logon
batch to map the drive. Or this post may help.
Vista doesn't remember mapped drives
     Mar 27, 2008 ... I have a users using Windows Vista Home Premium. ...
Which version of Vista are you using? Home versions can't cache credentials.
...
     www.chicagotech.net/netforums/viewtopic.php?t=1570

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> Hi!
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> me
> crazy! Any input would be greatly appreciated -- thanks in advance!
leontet - 18 May 2008 01:38 GMT
Thank you for the quick reply, Robert!

Unfortunatelly, it seems my bad english has driven you in the wrong
direction. I have no troubles working with mapped volumes, and I have no
volume on my Vista machine mapped on another PC on my home network.

I was talking about two of the settings in "Network and Sharing Center":
files sharing and pub folder sharing. They turn by themselves from ON to OFF
every time I boot the PC, but only if a third setting, password protected
sharing, is set to ON. The mentioned settings are not stuck or blocked, as I
can turn them to ON and everything works just fine till the next boot up. As
you imagine, the situation is more than annoying...

Any idea on this one? Thank you very much!

> The Vista Home edition doesn't remember the credentials. Create a logon
> batch to map the drive. Or this post may help.
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> > me
> > crazy! Any input would be greatly appreciated -- thanks in advance!
Robert L. (MS-MVP) - 18 May 2008 15:40 GMT
Sharing  and public on/off may cause be network location. Could you please
post back if the network location is public when the share and public off
and the network location is private when the sharing is on? Or it could be
the 3rd party software. This post may help too.

File and Printer sharing turned off on reboot
http://www.chicagotech.net/netforums/viewtopic.php?p=6432#6432

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> Thank you for the quick reply, Robert!
>
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>> > me
>> > crazy! Any input would be greatly appreciated -- thanks in advance!
leontet - 18 May 2008 17:40 GMT
Hi again, Robert!
The network is "private" all the time. This is a state that doesn't change.
Still, file sharing state is not remembered by the system. I'm starting to
think, as you say, that it is something related to a third party piece of
software that came preinstalled on my system (Lenovo Access Connections) that
automatically changes networking settings based on some user defined
locations. Anyway, even disabling this software the malfunction continues to
occur.
I forgot to mention I also installed SP1 for Vista a couple of days ago -
don't know if this might be a factor in what's going on.
Thanks again for your effort and patience!

> Sharing  and public on/off may cause be network location. Could you please
> post back if the network location is public when the share and public off
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> >> > me
> >> > crazy! Any input would be greatly appreciated -- thanks in advance!
Robert L. (MS-MVP) - 18 May 2008 22:39 GMT
Try one more thing. Start the Vista with clear boot.
Windows general
     How to run Windows OS with a clean boot · How to Run Windows Safe Mode
with Networking · How to setup DHCP for IP Phone How to sort programs in
Start ...
     www.howtonetworking.com/Windows/windowsgeneral.htm

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> Hi again, Robert!
> The network is "private" all the time. This is a state that doesn't
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>> >> > me
>> >> > crazy! Any input would be greatly appreciated -- thanks in advance!
leontet - 19 May 2008 01:44 GMT
Hi again, Robert!
You were right in the assumption that a third party software (Lenovo Access
Connections in my case) is the cause of this. I did a system recovery and
removed this software before configuring my network settings. Now everything
is working fine. Once again it has been proven Microsoft rules and others
can't cope with it!
Zillion of thanks for your help, congratulations for your patience and a
large bow to your knowledge!

> Try one more thing. Start the Vista with clear boot.
> Windows general
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> >> >> > crazy! Any input would be greatly appreciated -- thanks in advance!
Robert L. (MS-MVP) - 19 May 2008 14:07 GMT
Thank you for the feedback.

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> Hi again, Robert!
> You were right in the assumption that a third party software (Lenovo
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john_cena - 18 May 2008 13:29 GMT
Hi leontet,

when you connect to your wireless router are you getting a IP address
from your router. everytime your pc reboots does it ask to set the
network location. if so please state that. Also are you connected to a
doman or workgroup. have you set any local computer security policys...
if so please check them. need more info to help u mate.

Hope this helps

Cheers !!!

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leontet - 18 May 2008 17:51 GMT
Hi, John!
Thanks for your input, it's most appreciated!
My Vista laptop is configured NOT to use DHCP, it has a fixed IP address.
DHCP server is NOT enabled on my router, as all my PCs are configured this
way. All the machines in my network join one and the same workgroup, NOT a
domain. I haven't touched the security policies on my Vista laptop, as I
don't even know how to get there in Vista.
I'll make available whatever info might be necessary to solve this problem -
unfortunately I don't have enough knowledge what to supply unless asked...
Thank you very much for your help!

> Hi leontet,
>
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>
> Cheers !!!
john_cena - 18 May 2008 19:03 GMT
hi
after doing some research on your issue i figured out that this problem
is only specfifc to IBM machines. Access Connections
It overrides the file and print sharing setting on your  network
connection if enabled (among other important settings). To change your
settings: Access Connections - manage - select your connection - edit -
additional settings. This should fix your problem.

Hope this helps

CHeers !!

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leontet - 19 May 2008 01:56 GMT
Hi again, John!
You are right about the solution. The culprit in my problem was indeed
Lenovo (ex-IBM) Access Connections software. It should indeed work as you
explain, but it simply doesn't. Or it does, but aparently not the way Vista
expects such software to do it. I did a system recovery, uninstalled the
mentioned program and configured my network settings only afterwards. Now I'm
glad to tell you everything works just fine!
Thank you for your extraordinary help - you have all my admiration for your
kindness, thoroughfulness, intuition and (at last but not at least) knowledge!

> hi
> after doing some research on your issue i figured out that this problem
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>
> CHeers !!
john_cena - 19 May 2008 03:43 GMT
HI leontet,

It good to know that things worked out for you. just for the record
your such a nice person to say thank you. Thats more than enough for me.
if you do come accross any problem please post them. THanks again for
your kind attitued keep it up.:D

Hope this helps

CHeers !!
leontet;715790 Wrote:
> Hi again, John!
> You are right about the solution. The culprit in my problem was indeed
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> kindness, thoroughfulness, intuition and (at last but not at least)
> knowledge!

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1pcxpert - 20 May 2008 20:05 GMT
john_cena;715461 Wrote:
> hi
> after doing some research on your issue i figured out that this problem
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
> CHeers !!

Hello there,
I've been reading this thread because I'm having the same problem
described here but in my case my PC was built by me and doesn't have the
IBM software that you mentioned.
I installed Vista Ultimate x64 on this PC and have some third party
software installed but it's mostly for ::Peripherals  (Printer, GPS
unit, Data robot, ETC.)::

I was wondering if you have another solution that might be able to help
me.
I have a ASUS 'P5N32-SLI' (P5N#@SLI) Premium motherboard with 2 NVIDIA
GeForce 7600GT video cards, intel core2 6600, two seagate 1TB drives on
a raid 1 configuration.

As mentioned before my problem is the same. Every time I reboot my PC
the "Printer Sharing" is turned off in the "Network and sharing center"
and I have to turn it back on to have my workgroup be able to see my PC.
I have the "Password protected sharing" turned to off.

Any help would be greatly apreciated.

Thanks in advance.

Seb:)

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