Chkdsk "file 9" and what follows

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walterouzel - 20 Feb 2008 22:59 GMT

I've been running Windows Vista Ultimate (32-bit) on my HP
for 1 year without the following issue.
I ran CHKDSK C: /f, after rebooting the computer. Thsi command is executed
before I use Vista Backup.

CHKDSK found a number of issues including "Deleting an index
entry with Id ??? from index $SII of file 9." It is now displaying thousands
of "Replacing invalid security id with default security id for file xxxxx"
90 minutes have passed and this is still happening.
Is this related to the most recent automatic update and should I roll it back?
I don't yet know what the damage will be, if there will be any. If there is
are there ways to recover from it. My backup is week old and my Outlook
inbox is the most important folder for me. When I recovered from an Office
2007 crash a few weeks ago I let outlook create mailboxes in its default
locations under users.
Vista is an upgrade. The previous XP installation was an upgrade. When I
have had to do a reinstall of microsoft software the distribution disc for a
qualifying product has not been identified as valid.
I am using a different machine to ask this question.

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walterouzel - 20 Feb 2008 23:38 GMT

Everything describe in my question except defrag locked up. System rebooted
and everthing appears to be there. Programs work.

Is there any housekeeping necessary to follow-up?

What was this experience all about?

> I've been running Windows Vista Ultimate (32-bit) on my HP
> for 1 year without the following issue.
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> qualifying product has not been identified as valid.
> I am using a different machine to ask this question.

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gerryf - 21 Feb 2008 17:40 GMT

I'd certainly consider a second chkdsk, then a second defrag (are you using
default defrag--how do you know it locked up)

After that, most of those "repairs" it was doing are relatively minor...I
wouldn't worry about it.

> Everything describe in my question except defrag locked up. System
> rebooted
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>> qualifying product has not been identified as valid.
>> I am using a different machine to ask this question.

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Andrew Tapp - 22 Feb 2008 09:26 GMT

I had a similar issue at the beginning of January (08/01/2008) and posted in
the Vista 64-bit forum.

My eventual solution was to restore from a previous backup. Since then (due
to other issues) i have re-built the laptop in question.

Hope this helps.

> Everything describe in my question except defrag locked up. System rebooted
> and everthing appears to be there. Programs work.
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> > qualifying product has not been identified as valid.
> > I am using a different machine to ask this question.

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RedDevil - 22 Feb 2008 11:25 GMT

I get simular messages when ever I do a checkdisk on my vista home
premuim laptop. Several screens full of fixing this and that. But when
it re boots everything is working as it should and no files are
missing.
I think its just a standard check that it does every time.
my disk is 160gb and can take up to 2 hours to run the check disk.

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h0rnytoad1 - 08 May 2008 23:50 GMT

hello, i'm a 6 month user of vista, got it in november last year, and
everything was running (almost) fine, and then i installed sp1.

this "file 9" problem just hapenned to me this morning after installing
vista SP1 last night, on vista 32 home premium.

i couldnt boot into vista, the little caterpilar appeared, then when my
username should have appeared, there was nothing, just black screen and
mouse cursor, the computer wouldnt move, reboot, ctrl+alt+del, nothing
worked.

Very strange and discomforting, especially since i can't load vista and
the boot repair center didnt even start, and the safe mode didn't help
either!

finally i put the hdd in another computer and fixed the permissions for
"system" and admins atleast. i figure i'd try atleast that. i havent
tried rebooting in vista yet. i hope this fixes the problem.

Here's what i did before getting this error, i ran diskeeper2008 to set
a boot time defrag (this after rebooting 3 or 4 times after installing
sp1), i always do a 1st chkdsk (wich found nothing) then
dkboottimedefrag and chkdsk again (set by dk in boot after defrag) wich
then found thousands of not 10 000's security description fixes, and
this "file 9" business.

And to top it off, it just hapenned on a winxp 64 sp2 but this time, no
i didnt do dk2008 before.

Strange, 2 in one day, it never did before on either systems and had no
updates installed in a month for xp64 (except dx9 webupdate done
today).

if its only file/folder permissions and u can re-apply if and only if u
have another computer on hand, but still, on 2 different systems and
OSes ?

This has to be fixed !

imagine if i didnt have another SATA capable computer to fix it with ?
what then? i have no vista boot cd to speak of, just the acer crapdvd
they made wich will just format and reinstall vista.

if anything its a waste of a few hours for nothing depending on the
size of your drive and files.

Anybody has a fix please?

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