Windows Forum / Windows Vista / Performance and Maintainance / November 2006
Connections, performance question
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thunderstruck_302@hotmail.com - 24 Nov 2006 12:14 GMT I am getting an HP Media Center desktop computer, with AMD 64x2 5000+ with Live, 2GB of RAM, and a 256mb video card. I HAVE a laptop with an ML-34 Turion 64, a 64mb video card, and 1GB of RAM. They will be connected via a wirless network, and I am wondering several things:
a)can I connect these computers to work together somehow? To do something together? I know for sure the desktop will run Vista premium like nothing... But my laptop may be a little slower (I'm not sure how much), so if I can connect them to mak them work together somehow, that would be cool... I can't think of how to connect htem though.
b)How well will my laptop run gmaes such as Command and Conquer Generals if I put Vista on there? With XP, I know that most gams run VERY easily. I dont think I will enable Aero in Vista, so, with the Standard desktop setup, will my games run any slower on the computer? Is there some way I can turn Vista's load down so that it will run better, but have it on some quick key so that I can turn it down without going through a bunch of steps each time?
Richard G. Harper - 24 Nov 2006 14:19 GMT a) Home computers do not have the ability to share resources, memory or CPU cycles between them.
b) Your laptop sounds like it will run Vista fairly well except for the older video display card. There's no need to "turn Vista's load down" - this is the new memory management model in Vista. Like XP did, it will try to find some use for any and all memory installed - but unlike XP it generally, actually can eat up all your memory. If the claimed memory is needed it will be released automatically by the operating system.
In other words "It works, so don't fix it!" :-)
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>I am getting an HP Media Center desktop computer, with AMD 64x2 5000+ with > Live, 2GB of RAM, and a 256mb video card. I HAVE a laptop with an ML-34 [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > that I > can turn it down without going through a bunch of steps each time? thunderstruck_302@hotmail.com - 24 Nov 2006 22:36 GMT a) now I'm interested! so what kind of computers CAN share resources? now, for MY question: they dont necessarily have to share esources, but, would it be possible for me to set it up where I can install a game on one computer and access that game from the other (not just games, but programs in general)
AND I want to have it setup in a practical way that the desktop (being the main hub of the network) and the laptop both have the logon screen where, the laptop SHOWS all 4 of the names, just the same as the desktop, but the only one STORED on the laptop will be mine (michael). It sounds complicated, but it just sounds like an advanced network that Im SURE has been done before.... Anyone know what this would be called or how to do it?
b) What exactly does the video card control? BEcause my friend and I were running a LAN game of Warcraft 3, and his has a 128mb video card, only a half gig RAM, and an intel 1.8Ghz, and, in the thick of a bettle on the game, the battle slowed and started skiping i guess ou could say, on the screen, while mine was running smoothly (mind you, he was hosting it)..... So, is it the video card that would control the battle speed? OR the processor? (Im asking this just for my own understanding of video cards)
Thanks for your help.
> a) Home computers do not have the ability to share resources, memory or CPU > cycles between them. [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > > that I > > can turn it down without going through a bunch of steps each time? Richard G. Harper - 24 Nov 2006 23:34 GMT Dude, look up "cluster computing". Let me say it again:
HOME COMPUTERS DON'T DO THIS STUFF. :-)
Anything you can buy won't do this. Software CAN be shared if it's configured to do so but you can't force hardware to do sharing if the software won't let you.
> a) now I'm interested! so what kind of computers CAN share resources? > now, for MY question: they dont necessarily have to share esources, but, [quoted text clipped - 71 lines] >> > that I >> > can turn it down without going through a bunch of steps each time? thunderstruck_302@hotmail.com - 24 Nov 2006 23:47 GMT wow... all I wanted was the first part of your answer. I understood after your first message thatthey cant share hardware, but I know they can network so that logging on to Michael on my laptop will allow me to access files on my desktop... I jst dont know how to do it on Vista, and I was wondering if there was a guide to doing that so tht I CAN do it once it comes out.
> Dude, look up "cluster computing". Let me say it again: > [quoted text clipped - 79 lines] > >> > that I > >> > can turn it down without going through a bunch of steps each time? Richard G. Harper - 25 Nov 2006 12:37 GMT Again, you're going out of context - taking one bit of something you've read and trying to expand it to fit things it doesn't fit.
Yes, computers can share resources (files, some printers, etc) on a network. But that doesn't mean they can share installed programs. Nor does it mean that Computer #2 can use a device or software installed on Computer #1. It just don't work that way and never has regardless of the OS.
There are lots of web sites, books, etc. on networking; and networking in Vista works pretty much the same as it does in Windows XP. A bit different in some specifics but in general the concepts and designs are the same. Since you don't want to install Vista and try it out, start learning on whatever OS you currently have and expect to have to make a few minor mods to your learning once you do get Vista.
> wow... all I wanted was the first part of your answer. I understood after > your first message thatthey cant share hardware, but I know they can [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > if > there was a guide to doing that so tht I CAN do it once it comes out. Gene Fitz - 25 Nov 2006 07:43 GMT Thunderstruck, I understand your issues. It would be nice if computers could share their resources. Sadly, computers like this aren't able to use clustering. That is something made more of more advanced, or actually, lesser advanced computers (super-computers). However, if it does make you feel better, both your Media center box and notebook will both run vista fine. Your desktop will run Home Premium, your laptop will run Basic. And though you can not share resources, you can share storage. I am using both a Vista Notebook, and Vista desktop. I am sharing all the storage between both the units, both onboard hard drives, and USB hard drives, and through connection sharing, and a router, I have a network storage unit as well.
I know this is probably no help, but it is an idea.
>I am getting an HP Media Center desktop computer, with AMD 64x2 5000+ with > Live, 2GB of RAM, and a 256mb video card. I HAVE a laptop with an ML-34 [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > that I > can turn it down without going through a bunch of steps each time?
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