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Windows Forum / Windows Vista / Performance and Maintainance / May 2006Notepad - Still too slow on loading large files
Take the fastest machine money can buy, a file larger than a couple megabytes, and the latest Notepad still craps out and seizes up. Please show me someone from Microsoft to smack for this. It's the way that Notepad is structured - remember that a 200 word text file will be 200 bytes - 1024 word text file will be 1MB. It's because it has to read every single character, unlike Wordpad does :o)  SignatureZack Whittaker Microsoft Beta (Windows Server R2 Beta Mentor) » ZackNET Enterprises: www.zacknet.co.uk » MSBlog on ResDev: http://msblog.resdev.net » ZackNET Forum: www.zacknet.co.uk/forum » VistaBase: www.zacknet.co.uk/vistabase » This mailing is provided "as is" with no warranties, and confers no rights. All opinions expressed are those of myself unless stated so, and not of my employer, best friend, mother or cat. Let's be clear on that one! --- Original message follows --- > Take the fastest machine money can buy, > a file larger than a couple megabytes, > and the latest Notepad still craps out and seizes up. > > Please show me someone from Microsoft to smack for this. The operation of copying a file has to read every single byte as well, as still that's quicker than it takes Notepad.. don't tell me they're all so caught up in monkeying Mac OSX that they can't figure out how to improve the performance and responsiveness of the most basic of existing tools?? sheesh > It's the way that Notepad is structured - remember that a 200 word text > file will be 200 bytes - 1024 word text file will be 1MB. It's because it > has to read every single character, unlike Wordpad does :o) Basically... yeh. But trust me, there's no way you can improve Notepad anymore - the only reason it's there now is because they don't want to get rid of it (loyalty) and the fact that people still need something as simple as it gets to edit code - C# bits and bobs, HTML, Jscript etc. SignatureZack Whittaker Microsoft Beta (Windows Server R2 Beta Mentor) » ZackNET Enterprises: www.zacknet.co.uk » MSBlog on ResDev: http://msblog.resdev.net » ZackNET Forum: www.zacknet.co.uk/forum » VistaBase: www.zacknet.co.uk/vistabase » This mailing is provided "as is" with no warranties, and confers no rights. All opinions expressed are those of myself unless stated so, and not of my employer, best friend, mother or cat. Let's be clear on that one! --- Original message follows --- > The operation of copying a file has to read every single byte as well, as > still that's quicker than it takes Notepad.. don't tell me they're all so [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >> file will be 200 bytes - 1024 word text file will be 1MB. It's because it >> has to read every single character, unlike Wordpad does :o) > Basically... yeh. But trust me, there's no way you can improve Notepad > anymore - Agreed. Microsoft cannot (=is not able to) improve Notepad. They had 15 years of trials. ALL other editors are better. SlowFax > Agreed. Microsoft cannot (=is not able to) improve Notepad. They had 15 years of > trials. > ALL other editors are better. You never used EDLIN? Tom Lake > C# bits and bobs, HTML, Jscript etc. ..configuration files, XML, registry exports, scripts, e-books, logs, chat transcripts... All we're asking is that it not freeze up outright on loading large files - start displaying the text right away, and allow us to select it but keep it read-only while a separate thread loads in rest of the file. Surely it seems absurd to leave the possibility of something this basic freezing up on the latest dual-core multiprocessor 1+ GB RAM setup? > the only reason it's there now is because they don't want to get rid of it > (loyalty) ..didn't know loyalty was the only reason for an OS to have the ability to edit text files.. and how many people have anything other than Notepad associated with .txt files? Fewer than the number of people who'll be needing DVD Maker, that's for sure. "..didn't know loyalty was the only reason for an OS to have the ability to edit text files.. and how many people have anything other than Notepad associated with .txt files? Fewer than the number of people who'll be needing DVD Maker, that's for sure. " lol. maybe MS should scrap Notepad for Office Word 2007. Another program duplication! SignatureNicholas... "Overclock Your Life, Then The World" There are many cases where a plain text editor is needed. I use it to read and write all different kinds of files, that are intended to be read by software. John E. > "..didn't know loyalty was the only reason for an OS to have the ability > to [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > lol. maybe MS should scrap Notepad for Office Word 2007. Another program > duplication! If your files are below 2 GB in size, the most impressive notepad replacement I've seen is found by googling for jujuedit. Many others add too much stuff, this adds just what you'd expect from notepad replacement. One might argue that hex view and regex search & replace support doesn't belong to notepad but I digress... And I've tried a dozen notepad replacements.. > There are many cases where a plain text editor is needed. I use it to read > and write all different kinds of files, that are intended to be read by [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >> lol. maybe MS should scrap Notepad for Office Word 2007. Another program >> duplication! The operation of copying a file has to read every single byte as well, as still that's quicker than it takes Notepad.. don't tell me they're all so caught up in monkeying Mac OSX that they can't figure out how to improve the performance and responsiveness of the most basic of existing tools?? sheesh > It's the way that Notepad is structured - remember that a 200 word text > file will be 200 bytes - 1024 word text file will be 1MB. It's because it > has to read every single character, unlike Wordpad does :o) > Take the fastest machine money can buy, > a file larger than a couple megabytes, > and the latest Notepad still craps out and seizes up. Notepad was never intended to open large files. If you want a decent text editor, there are dozens available. My favourite is EmEditor. SignaturePaul Smith, Yeovil, UK. Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User. http://www.windowsresource.net/ *Remove 'nospam.' to reply by e-mail* |
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