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Windows Forum / Windows Vista / Performance and Maintainance / January 2007Windows Disk Defrag not workig
So, im trying to once again run disk defrag. It hasnt worked in a couple weeks. What happens is i start it up, it runs the "anailzing disk" part and i can see my HD run for a min or so. But then it stops and thats it, i left my computer alone for like 6hrs, and when i came back, it still said "anailzing disk". ANyone got any help on this. When i goto task mgr, i see it in there, but i cant end the process, i have to reboot. So what happened, why does it get stuck at the "anailzing disk" part and not go any futher thanks Hi, tdawg. Two questions: 1. How big and how full is the volume being defragged? (For a 300 GB volume with millions of files, it might take longer than 6 hours.) 2. Is this the boot volume (typically Drive C:)? Defragging the working volume (and the boot volume, where the \Windows folder resides, is always working) has always taken longer because its files are constantly being updated during the defrag process. In the olden days, we could not defrag the boot volume at all because the process was continually restarting. :>( To defrag that volume, we had to boot from a floppy or dual-boot into a different Windows installation. These may not be the factors in your situation, but if we know these answers, we may be able to eliminate a couple of suspects. RC  SignatureR. C. White, CPA San Marcos, TX rc@grandecom.net Microsoft Windows MVP (Running Windows Mail 7.0 in Vista Ultimate x64) > So, im trying to once again run disk defrag. It hasnt worked in a couple > weeks. What happens is i start it up, it runs the "anailzing disk" part [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > thanks Hi, thanks for responding no, the HD is only a 40gig drive and it is the main drive. I have sept drives for eveyrthing else. I only use this drive for the windows and windows programs. Disk Defrag does start up, and it goes to analyzing disk. But thats it, it doesnt do anything more after that. As stated, i left computer alone for 6hrs, and when i came back, the disk defrag STILL says analyzing disk > Hi, tdawg. > [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > > > > thanks From the GUI, defrag will defrag _all_ of your volumes, not just C:. It will also analyze _all_ volumes. Since you say you get "analyzing disk" I am assuming you are using the UI. I think that the UI is analyzing all of your disks, and quite possibly one of the larger ones (not the 40gb) is causing the delay. It is likely that the culprit would be the biggest volume with the most data. Try a defrag <vol>: /a /v from the command line (administrative) for an analysis of your "most likely" volume and see what you get. OR If you only want to defrag the sysvol (C?), then defrag sysvol: /v from the command line (administrative). Thanks -Victoria > Hi, thanks for responding > [quoted text clipped - 50 lines] >> > >> > thanks gee, thats gonna suck if i have to do that everytime. I just started it, seems like its working. WHat iw as doign was going to "my computer", then right clicking "C: drive" and then clicking "tools / defrag this drive". I dont know why microsoft would have changed this, it was working great in XP when u could see the percentage and it always worked. I hate that u cant see what % its at in vista :( Ill letu know if this way works tho. I dont know why it wouldnt work in the first place, this is a complete fresh copy, not an upgrade > From the GUI, defrag will defrag _all_ of your volumes, not just C:. It > will also analyze _all_ volumes. [quoted text clipped - 68 lines] > >> > > >> > thanks Currently the GUI you get from my computer->rt click c:->tools->defrag is the same "all volumes" UI. We've had lots of feedback on this before. Yours has been noted. > gee, thats gonna suck if i have to do that everytime. I just started it, > seems like its working. WHat iw as doign was going to "my computer", then [quoted text clipped - 92 lines] >> >> > >> >> > thanks Ya, thanks. It did defrag my C drive like u said.... i think. WHen it started, it said 2% fragmented. After it was done, it said 5%, lol. But atleast i know how ot do it now thanks > Currently the GUI you get from my computer->rt click c:->tools->defrag is > the same "all volumes" UI. [quoted text clipped - 96 lines] > >> >> > > >> >> > thanks Bug was recently filed for that one. It's fixed for Server/SP1. There's a lot of things that can frag you besides defrag though, so maybe it was one of them. :) Glad it's working for you.. or at least running. If you want to schedule C: defrags, you can use task scheduler (We have tasks there that are used for our ScheduledDefrag you could use as a model). > Ya, thanks. It did defrag my C drive like u said.... i think. WHen it > started, it said 2% fragmented. After it was done, it said 5%, lol. But [quoted text clipped - 122 lines] >> >> >> > >> >> >> > thanks Victoria In Vista is it still advisable to run Disk CleanUp ( or Vista equivalent ) before running Disk Defragmenter? Signature~~~~ Gerry ~~~~~~~~ Enquire, plan and execute. Stourport, England ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Bug was recently filed for that one. It's fixed for Server/SP1. > There's a lot of things that can frag you besides defrag though, so [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > schedule C: defrags, you can use task scheduler (We have tasks there > that are used for our ScheduledDefrag you could use as a model). The only place I can immediately find CleanUp and Defrag in one article is in this type of article: http://www.microsoft.com/atwork/getstarted/speed.mspx For many, temporary internet files and temporary program files will tend to be more fragmented and take up space on the beginning of the disk and are deleted periodically. If defrag does its thing and then these files are deleted, there is a somewhat greater chance that the next files to be written to disk will be written fragmented. Disk CleanUp won't hurt anything, and since defrag takes care of itself with scheduling you should be all right. "is it still advisable"? I don't know. I think that running Disk CleanUp occasionally is a good idea. Running Disk Defragmenter occasionally is also a good idea. If I were running both in the same short time period, I'd run Disk CleanUp first for a small degree fragmentation prevention. -Victoria > Victoria > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >> schedule C: defrags, you can use task scheduler (We have tasks there >> that are used for our ScheduledDefrag you could use as a model). Simple really: dump the inbuilt defrag engine (which is very “basic” anyway, to put it politely) and download ‘PerfectDisk 8’, a 180 day trial version from Raxco that works great with Vista RTM! Or wait for Executive Software to have their Vista compatible ‘Diskeeper’ ready in a few weeks – the best defragmentation engine around. > Ya, thanks. It did defrag my C drive like u said.... i think. WHen it > started, it said 2% fragmented. After it was done, it said 5%, lol. But > atleast i know how ot do it now > > thanks > Simple really: dump the inbuilt defrag engine (which is very “basic” > anyway, [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > ‘Diskeeper’ > ready in a few weeks – the best defragmentation engine around. Or use the free http://www.auslogics.com/disk-defrag/ Roy >> Ya, thanks. It did defrag my C drive like u said.... i think. WHen >> it [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >> >> thanks Diskeeper 2007 for Vista is ready now. However, there is no free trial download at this moment. http://www.diskeeper.com/diskeeper/solutions.asp Diskeeper Corporation has announced Microsoft Windows Vista™ platform support for the Diskeeper 2007 product line. It is a free update for licensed Diskeeper 2007 customers, as well as customers with current maintenance contracts. > Simple really: dump the inbuilt defrag engine (which is very “basic” anyway, > to put it politely) and download ‘PerfectDisk 8’, a 180 day trial version [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >> >> thanks The Vista Defrag is another MS technological improvement don't you know, or so Victoria said in an earlier post. SignatureLeo When I was young and adventurous, I wanted to join a violent, armed group with no regard for the law, but the IRS wasn't hiring. > gee, thats gonna suck if i have to do that everytime. I just started it, > seems like its working. WHat iw as doign was going to "my computer", then [quoted text clipped - 92 lines] >> >> > >> >> > thanks Did she call THAT an “improvement”?? Wow, must have had a bad hair day .... > The Vista Defrag is another MS technological improvement don't you know, or > so Victoria said in an earlier post. To me Victoria seemed upset that us mere users did not understand the technological benefits of the 'new and improved' MS Defrag. SignatureLeo When I was young and adventurous, I wanted to join a violent, armed group with no regard for the law, but the IRS wasn't hiring. > Did she call THAT an “improvement”?? Wow, must have had a bad hair day > .... > >> The Vista Defrag is another MS technological improvement don't you know, >> or >> so Victoria said in an earlier post. |
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