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Amanda - 03 Apr 2007 13:48 GMT
I have two computers each running Vista Ultimate, but windows fax & scan
works differently on each. On one computer, fax & scan opens up the wab
(windows address book) and lets me choose a fax number in there, or create a
new contact. On the other computer, the address book will not come up at all.
I checked to be sure my wab is there in the proper folder (it is in the same
floder as it is on the other computer) so what could be happening? I have to
manually type in the phone number for each fax I send.
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Amanda B

Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] - 03 Apr 2007 21:21 GMT
Fax and Scan will use whatever you set as your default Contacts Manager for
your OS.
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Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]

>I have two computers each running Vista Ultimate, but windows fax & scan
> works differently on each. On one computer, fax & scan opens up the wab
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> to
> manually type in the phone number for each fax I send.
Amanda - 03 Apr 2007 21:46 GMT
Thank you so much for responding.
OK, but where (how) do I set something as the default Contacts manager? I am
using Windows mail, so I have an address book in the windows contact
folder....how do I get fax & scan to find that?
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Amanda B

> Fax and Scan will use whatever you set as your default Contacts Manager for
> your OS.
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> > to
> > manually type in the phone number for each fax I send.
Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] - 03 Apr 2007 21:51 GMT
I don't remember the exact path in Vista. If you can't find it or if someone
else can't tell you, I'll check the next time I'm running Vista--might be a
couple of days.
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Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]

> Thank you so much for responding.
> OK, but where (how) do I set something as the default Contacts manager? I
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>> > manually type in the phone number for each fax I send.
Amanda - 03 Apr 2007 22:38 GMT
Oh thank you, that would be kind.
FYI:
Another person suggested the path was in Control panel, setting defaults. I
did as he said and now Windows Contacts is the default program for WAB.
And in choosing defaults for Windows Contacts, I just selected all.
Still no address book opens up in Fax & Scan.There is a drop down box in
"Contacts" in fax & Scan, but in the dropdown box it only says Outlook, and
it tells me there are no addresses in Outlook. It does not show any other
address book to search in.
I do HAVE Outlook on my computer, it is Outlook 2007, but I can't see how to
make an address book in that program. I do not use this program for anything.
ALSO, in the file associations area, it lists .pbk files as to be opened by
Windows fax & scan. I DO have a PBK on my computer, left from another faxing
program, but it does not show up in the drop down box in wfs.
That same associations area lists .pab and .wab, and says they both open
with windows contacts.
Coincidentally, (or maybe not) DEP often closes fax & scan while I am using
it.....
Any other thoughts?
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Amanda B

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Amanda B

> I don't remember the exact path in Vista. If you can't find it or if someone
> else can't tell you, I'll check the next time I'm running Vista--might be a
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> >> > manually type in the phone number for each fax I send.
Cal Bear '66 - 03 Apr 2007 22:02 GMT
Control Panel>Default Programs   Set your default programs, highlight Windows Contacts, slick Choose defaults for this program...

> Thank you so much for responding.
> OK, but where (how) do I set something as the default Contacts manager? I am
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>> > to
>> > manually type in the phone number for each fax I send.
Cal Bear '66 - 03 Apr 2007 22:11 GMT
Also, in the same place (Default Programs) open Set Associations and scroll down to .wab and make sure Windows Contacts is the default,
if it is not use the Change program... button to change the default to Windows Contacts

> Thank you so much for responding.
> OK, but where (how) do I set something as the default Contacts manager? I am
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>> > to
>> > manually type in the phone number for each fax I send.
Amanda - 03 Apr 2007 22:32 GMT
Thanks for your response too!
OK, Windows Contacts is the default program for WAB.
And in choosing defaults for Windows Contacts, I just selected all.
Still no address book opens up in Fax & Scan.There is a drop down box in
Contacts in fax & Scan, but in the dropdown box it only says Outlook, and it
tells me there are no addresses in Outlook. It does not show any other
address book to search in.
I do HAVE Outlook on my computer, it is Otlook 2007, but I can't see how to
make an address book in that program.
Coincidentally, (or maybe not) DEP often closes fax & scan while I am using
it.....
Any other thoughts?
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Amanda B

> Also, in the same place (Default Programs) open Set Associations and
> scroll down to .wab and make sure Windows Contacts is the default,
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> >> > Amanda B
Hal Hostetler [MVP P/I] - 04 Apr 2007 03:14 GMT
With Outlook 2007 installed, your address book is set to Outlook's Contacts
folder.  Add your addresses here.  If Contacts doesn't show up as an address
book, go to the All Folder view, right click the Contacts folder, select
"Properties", and add a checkmark to the "Show this folder as an e-mail
address book" checkbox.  If this checkbox is dimmed and uncheckable, you
need to add the Outlook Address Book service.  To add this, if needed, go to
'Tools|Account settings', click the "Address Books" tab, click
'New|Additional Address Books|Next' and add the Outlook Address Book
service.

Hal
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> Thanks for your response too!
> OK, Windows Contacts is the default program for WAB.
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> > >> > Amanda B
Amanda - 04 Apr 2007 13:12 GMT
OK, this all sounds reasonable, but I'm not getting anywhere.
1st, when I am looking for properties, I can click on a folder to get
properties, but what is the All Folder view you specified? General
properties, when I click on the Contacts folder, does not show anything about
show as an address book.
2nd, when you say go to Tools/account settings, where an I supposed to be?
The tools in an explorer view of my folders does not have account settings,
and the tools in the WFS program doesn't have account settings either.
When I first got Vista, I set up windows Mail, which transferred all my old
addresses from Outlook Express into "Contacts" in my user folder.
OR do you mean me to be in Outlook 2007? I can't find an Outlook folder
anywhere, although there is a shortcut on the start menu to the program.
I've never actually USED Outlook as a program, it just installed with my
Office 2007 when I upgraded to Vista.
(good grief I just realized, maybe that is a problem?)
Amanda B

> With Outlook 2007 installed, your address book is set to Outlook's Contacts
> folder.  Add your addresses here.  If Contacts doesn't show up as an address
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> > > >> > --
> > > >> > Amanda B
Amanda - 04 Apr 2007 13:36 GMT
OK, WOW, I think I got it! When I actually opened the Outlook program, (duh)
I was able to follow your instructions. I also imported all my addresses into
it from Windows Mail, and voila! I am in business! Thank you very very much
for responding, I am a happy faxer now!!!
Amanda
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Amanda B

> With Outlook 2007 installed, your address book is set to Outlook's Contacts
> folder.  Add your addresses here.  If Contacts doesn't show up as an address
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> > > >> > --
> > > >> > Amanda B
kookaburra2 - 25 Feb 2008 01:17 GMT
In Vista Business, I have installed Windows Mail, Windows Live Mail, Outlook
2007. Each has its own contacts. In Windows Fax & Scan, only the Outloook
contacts show up. Is there a way to have WFS use (most preferred) Contacts
from Windows Mail or (less preferred) contacts from Windows Live Mail? How?

Thanks
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K2

> With Outlook 2007 installed, your address book is set to Outlook's Contacts
> folder.  Add your addresses here.  If Contacts doesn't show up as an address
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> > > >> > --
> > > >> > Amanda B
Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] - 25 Feb 2008 11:44 GMT
Set Windows Mail as your default Contacts manager.
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Russ Valentine
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> In Vista Business, I have installed Windows Mail, Windows Live Mail,
> Outlook
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kookaburra2 - 25 Feb 2008 14:03 GMT
I have looked everywhere in my system & on the web, but can't see how.
Please, I need the steps to setting Windows Mail as my default Contacts
manager spelled out.
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K2

> Set Windows Mail as your default Contacts manager.
> > In Vista Business, I have installed Windows Mail, Windows Live Mail,
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> >> > > >> > Amanda B
Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] - 25 Feb 2008 14:29 GMT
Control Panel > Default programs
Give Windows Mail and Windows Contacts all their defaults. Give Outlook
none.
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Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]

>I have looked everywhere in my system & on the web, but can't see how.
> Please, I need the steps to setting Windows Mail as my default Contacts
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>> >> > > >> > Amanda B
kookaburra2 - 26 Feb 2008 01:59 GMT
Thanks for that, but it still doesn't work for me. Rebooting hasn't helped.
In WFS, the address book has just one item in the drop down box ("Contacts"),
the contents are only Outlook items:
Outlook Adress Book
  Accounts
  Business Contacts
  Contacts

My defaults are set:

WINDOWS CONTACTS - checked (all)
----------------------------------
.contact
.group
.p7c
.vcf
LDAP

WINDOWS CONTACTS - not checked
<none>

WINDOWS MAIL - checked (all)
----------------------------------
.eml
MAILTO
E-mail link

WINDOWS MAIL - not checked
<none>

WINDOWS LIVE MAIL - checked
----------------------------------
<none>

WINDOWS LIVE MAIL - not checked (all)
.eml
.vcf
MAILTO
E-mail link

OUTLOOK 2007 - checked
----------------------------------
.hol
.ibc
.ics
.msg
.vcs
OUTLOOKFEED
OUTLOOKFEEDS
STSSYNC
WEBCAL
WEBCALS

OUTLOOK 207 - not checked
.vcf
MAILTO
E-Mail link

What should I do next?

Thanks.

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K2

> Control Panel > Default programs
> Give Windows Mail and Windows Contacts all their defaults. Give Outlook
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> >> > Thanks
Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] - 26 Feb 2008 03:16 GMT
I give up. You still have Outlook set as your default.
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Russ Valentine
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> Thanks for that, but it still doesn't work for me. Rebooting hasn't
> helped.
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>> >> >
>> >> > Thanks
DS_NZ - 26 Feb 2008 12:23 GMT
Weird.  

As per my post in another (similar) recent thread I have the exact
opposite problem.  The only options to  show up in WFS are Windows
Contacts, Active Directory (don't know what it is & does not appear to
be active), and VeriSign ... .   I want nothing to do with any of them.

I want to use Outlook (2007) Contacts, as I have all my Contacts data
from many years back stored there, but I cannot get it to show in WFS.

I have given OL2007 all its defaults under "Control Panel > Default
programs" & confirmed that it is the default for all listed file types
for OL.  

One thing I note though, is that *none of the OL extensions relate to
Contacts*.  The only extensions shown for OL are .hol, .ibc, .ics, .msg,
.vcf, .vcs & six protocols.  

As per Hal Hostetler's post below, I checked the OL2007 Contacts folder
Properties.  The "Show this folder as an e-mail address book" checkbox
is *greyed out*, *but IS TICKED*, so I assume that is OK?

Also Outlook Address Book already shows up under the 'Tools|Account
settings|Address Books" tab & I cannot add it again.

Alas still no chop :(.

Under "Control Panel > Default programs", Windows Contacts is default
for 3 extensions - .contact, .group, and .p7c.  But as far as I can see,
OL cannot be made the default for these extensions ????

I am also assuming that OL cannot be made the default program for .wab?

kookaburra2;624621 Wrote:
> In Vista Business, I have installed Windows Mail, Windows Live Mail,
> Outlook
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> > Books" tab, click 'New|Additional Address Books|Next' and add the
> > Outlook Address Book service.

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DS_NZ

Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] - 26 Feb 2008 13:17 GMT
Well first of all there is no WAB in Vista, so I'm not sure why anyone is
trying to access one. What is _supposed_ to happen, and what has worked for
both Hal and me, is that WFS will use whatever is set as the default Contact
manager at the OS level. For most people that would be either Windows
Contacts or Outlook. I would not expect WFS to use Windows Live Mail or
Windows Live Hotmail Contacts.

The next thing I'd do in your case is verify that the Outlook Address Book
Service is actually working in Outlook and displaying the correct Contacts
Folder. Is your Outlook installation set to prompt for a profile?
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Russ Valentine
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>
> Weird.
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>> > Books" tab, click 'New|Additional Address Books|Next' and add the
>> > Outlook Address Book service.
DS_NZ - 26 Feb 2008 13:59 GMT
Hmm.  I was not looking to use .wab, but thought it may be causing
problems.  On my system (Vista Bus x64), .wab does show up under
"Control Panel\Default Programs\Set Associations" with Windows Contacts
nominated as the default program.

I'm still not certain about setting the "default Contact manager at the
OS level", since in "Control Panel\Default Programs\Set Default
Programs" there is nothing about Contacts or Contact Manager listed for
Outlook.  I would include a screenshot but do not have a web site & it
seems the only way is to link to an image on a web site.

I do not understand the "Is your Outlook installation set to prompt for
a profile?".  AFAIK it doesn't prompt me for anything.  It just opens up
in Inbox under Personal Folders.  

One possibly complicating factor in my case is that I have OL linked to
3 .pst files (2 listed as "Personal Folders", both of which have contact
folders - & 2 calendars etc).  One is my old XP Outlook personal folder
(~ 1GB in size, so I want to keep it separate), but that appears to
cause no problems at all in normal Outlook use.

'Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook Wrote:
> ;626120']Well first of all there is no WAB in Vista, so I'm not sure why
> anyone is
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DS_NZ

Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] - 26 Feb 2008 14:29 GMT
So you are not set to prompt for an Outlook profile. My other question was
how your Outlook Address Book is configured and whether it displays the
designated Contact Folders correctly, especially if you are running with 3
PST's. You have had lots of opportunity to migrate that data incorrectly and
corrupt your Outlook Address Book Service.
In Vista one normally sets the default program by making that problem the
default for all the extensions and functions it can handle. So if you award
Outlook all its defaults, it should be your default Contacts manager
provided you have the Outlook Address Book Service installed and configured
correctly. If you have changed your default, you may need to elevate WFS and
create a new Fax Account.
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Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]

>
> Hmm.  I was not looking to use .wab, but thought it may be causing
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DS_NZ - 26 Feb 2008 14:18 GMT
Re the Address Book Service:  I'm not certain how you tell it is
"actually working".  

My old .pst file had a Contacts folder with two sub-folders of type
contacts (one holds business contacts, the other personal contacts).
All three, plus the 2007 Contacts folder display correctly in Outlook
(ie. all are selectable in "Contacts" view), and I use the original
Contacts for email addresses and dialling phone calls from OL regularly
and without problem.  

The new (2007) Contacts folder only has one entry at this stage but
that appears to work fine also.

'Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook Wrote:
> ;626120']Well first of all there is no The next thing I'd do in your
> case is verify that the Outlook Address Book
> Service is actually working in Outlook and displaying the correct
> Contacts
> Folder. Is your Outlook installation set to prompt for a profile?

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DS_NZ

Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] - 26 Feb 2008 14:41 GMT
You simply open the Outlook Address Book and see if each folder is listed
and displays correctly.
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Russ Valentine
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>
> Re the Address Book Service:  I'm not certain how you tell it is
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>> Contacts
>> Folder. Is your Outlook installation set to prompt for a profile?
DS_NZ - 28 Feb 2008 07:34 GMT
They are (all three of them) - after I ticked "Show this folder as an
e-mail address book" in the OL contacts Properties.  Made no difference
though, still not accessible from WFS.

Basically I have given up on it - will just add details into Windows
Contacts as & when needed.  Not many I will be faxing, but I very much
had hoped not to need two sets of address details.  Recipe for 'currency
issues' further down the track.

'Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook Wrote:
> ;626187']You simply open the Outlook Address Book and see if each folder
> is listed and displays correctly.
> --
> Russ Valentine
> [MVP-Outlook]

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DS_NZ

Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] - 28 Feb 2008 11:03 GMT
Did you try the steps I suggested? Have you tried a new Outlook profile?
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Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]

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> They are (all three of them) - after I ticked "Show this folder as an
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>> Russ Valentine
>> [MVP-Outlook]
 
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