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Whitch Anti-Virus should i use ?

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Ultimate System - 21 May 2008 19:04 GMT
My security center shows me that i dont have an installed anti-virus...
it shows shows windows defender as an anti-spyware..

My info:

Windows Vista Ultimate - Desktop PC
Intel Core2Duo
1GB Memory
256 Graphics Card
100GB C Drive (Windows Drive)

What anti-virus you recommend me to use ?
(not AVG or Norton coz i hate them !!!!)
Carey Frisch  [MVP] - 21 May 2008 19:37 GMT
I have three different computers running Windows OneCare.
In over 2 years, no system has been infected with malware,
spyware or viruses.  I highly recommend using it.

You can try it FREE for 90 days.
http://onecare.live.com/standard/en-us/default.htm

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My security center shows me that i dont have an installed anti-virus...
it shows shows windows defender as an anti-spyware..

My info:

Windows Vista Ultimate - Desktop PC
Intel Core2Duo
1GB Memory
256 Graphics Card
100GB C Drive (Windows Drive)

What anti-virus you recommend me to use ?
(not AVG or Norton coz i hate them !!!!)
Kayman - 21 May 2008 23:54 GMT
> I have three different computers running Windows OneCare.
> In over 2 years, no system has been infected with malware,
> spyware or viruses.  I highly recommend using it.

Same here but I use Avira AntiVir® Personal. Is it really WOC which keeps
malware out of your system or just plain safe surfing habits coupled with
practicing Safe-Hex, I wonder?
Milo - 22 May 2008 04:58 GMT
I use Trend Micro Product since and windows defender working hand in hand
with it

> I have three different computers running Windows OneCare.
> In over 2 years, no system has been infected with malware,
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> What anti-virus you recommend me to use ?
> (not AVG or Norton coz i hate them !!!!)
Charlie42 - 21 May 2008 20:00 GMT
> What anti-virus you recommend me to use ?
> (not AVG or Norton coz i hate them !!!!)

My two pennies worth:

If you detest Norton like me, you should take a look at a low-footprint
program like Eset's NOD32. It is a combined malware solution with very good
test results, it is not intrusive, but some feel it is a wee bit complicated
to customize. Eset also makes a suite called Smart Security. It includes
anti-spam and a firewall, but imo. most home users need no third party FW
and filters.

Another popular free program is Avast! It will protect you well, but you may
want to consider adding a second spyware scanner like Spybot or
Superantispyware.

Some test results:
http://www.av-comparatives.org/
http://www.virusbtn.com/vb100/

Charlie42
Nrth - 22 May 2008 19:00 GMT
>> What anti-virus you recommend me to use ?
>> (not AVG or Norton coz i hate them !!!!)
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>anti-spam and a firewall, but imo. most home users need no third party FW
>and filters.

[...]

I'll make that four pence. NOD32 has been on my system for over a year now
and I'm very impressed with it. I find it easy to configure and very light
on system resources. Running on Vista Business 32-bit with no problems.

http://www.eset.com/

Regards,

Nrth.
Kayman - 21 May 2008 23:54 GMT
> My security center shows me that i dont have an installed anti-virus...
> it shows shows windows defender as an anti-spyware..
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> What anti-virus you recommend me to use ?
> (not AVG or Norton coz i hate them !!!!)

Avira AntiVir® Personal - FREE Antivirus
http://www.free-av.com/
You may wish to consider removing the 'AntiVir Nagscreen'
http://www.elitekiller.com/files/disable_antivir_nag.htm
or
Free antivirus - avast! 4 Home Edition
It includes ANTI-SPYWARE protection, certified by the West Coast Labs
Checkmark process, and ANTI-ROOTKIT DETECTION based on the best-in class
GMER technology.
http://www.avast.com/eng/avast_4_home.html
(Choose Custom Installation and under Resident
Protection, uncheck: Internet Mail and Outlook/Exchange.)
or
AVG Anti-Virus Free Edition
http://free.grisoft.com/
(Choose custom install and untick the email scanner plugin.)
or
Kaspersky® Anti-Virus 7.0 - Not Free
http://www.kaspersky.com/homeuser
or
ESET NOD32 Antivirus - Not Free
http://www.eset.com/

and (optional)

On-demand AV application.
(add it to your arsenal and use it as a "second opinion" av scanner).
David H. Lipman's MULTI_AV Tool
http://www.pctipp.ch/ds/28400/28470/Multi_AV.exe
http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp
English:
http://www.raymond.cc/blog/archives/2008/01/09/scan-your-computer-with-multiple-
anti-virus-for-free/

Additional Instructions:
http://pcdid.com/Multi_AV.htm

Why You Don't Need Your Anti-Virus Program to Scan Your E-Mail
http://thundercloud.net/infoave/tutorials/email-scanning/index.htm
Richard G. Harper - 22 May 2008 00:46 GMT
Sorry but I recommend nothing but AVG.  Works great for me.

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> My security center shows me that i dont have an installed anti-virus...
> it shows shows windows defender as an anti-spyware..
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> What anti-virus you recommend me to use ?
> (not AVG or Norton coz i hate them !!!!)
Bruce Chambers - 22 May 2008 02:03 GMT
> My security center shows me that i dont have an installed anti-virus...
> it shows shows windows defender as an anti-spyware..
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> What anti-virus you recommend me to use ?
> (not AVG or Norton coz i hate them !!!!)

    You'll get nearly as many differing opinions as you will responses.

    I'll start by saying that I don't think any security "suite" is a
good choice.  It'd be better to use smaller, less-resource-draining
stand-alone products.

    I had used, and recommended, Norton Antivirus and then Norton
Internet Security, for many years, on Win98, WinNT, Win2K, and WinXP,
all without any significant problems.  I had used McAfee prior to that.
 But it's been several years since I've been tempted to try McAfee
products. Their quality seemed to take a steep nose-dive after they were
acquired by Network Associates.

    However, when my subscription to Symantec's updates for Norton
Internet Security came up for renewal (at a cost substantially higher
than the preceding year's subscription), I decided to try less expensive
solutions. I downloaded and installed the free version of GriSoft's AVG
(http://www.grisoft.com/us/us_dwnl_free.php ).  It proved to be easily
installed, easy to use, and quite effective.  Additionally, I was
pleasantly surprised to see a small but very noticeable improvement in
my PC's performance, once I'd replaced the Symantec product.  Another
free (for personal use) anti-virus product is AVAST! 4 Home Edition
(http://www.avast.com/eng/avast_4_home.html), which is what I'd been
using without problems on Vista Business, until recently.  I'm currently
testing ESET's NOD32, which isn't free, but has a small footprint that
doesn't bog the system down.

For a recent comparison of anti-virus products:

Retrospective / ProActive Test
http://www.av-comparatives.org/

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Mick Murphy - 22 May 2008 06:40 GMT
Here is what I use!!!

Vista’s Firewall is very good!

http://www.avast.com/eng/download-avast-home.html

Above is a link to Avast Free 4 Home Anti-Virus
It is low resource using, free and Vista 32bit and 64bit compatible.
Only have one (1) anti-virus installed; more than 1 can cause conflicts.

http://www.safer-networking.org/en/index.html

For Spyware removal, use the above link to “Spybot Search & Destroy 1.5.2”
Download it, install it, update it, immunize your system and scan your
System with it.

http://www.javacoolsoftware.com/

For a non-scanning, but running in the background, Program to STOP Spyware
being downloaded to your Computer, use SpywareBlaster 4, available at the
above link.

Mick Murphy - Qld - Australia

> My security center shows me that i dont have an installed anti-virus...
> it shows shows windows defender as an anti-spyware..
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> What anti-virus you recommend me to use ?
> (not AVG or Norton coz i hate them !!!!)
Straight Talk - 22 May 2008 07:20 GMT
>My security center shows me that i dont have an installed anti-virus...
>it shows shows windows defender as an anti-spyware..
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>What anti-virus you recommend me to use ?
>(not AVG or Norton coz i hate them !!!!)

Brain 1.0
Robinb - 22 May 2008 15:45 GMT
I use AVG 8.0 free
just when it installs do not check off the toolbar
robin
> My security center shows me that i dont have an installed anti-virus...
> it shows shows windows defender as an anti-spyware..
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> What anti-virus you recommend me to use ?
> (not AVG or Norton coz i hate them !!!!)
roy69 - 22 May 2008 16:13 GMT
I use avast, it does not hog the system like some others and is totaly
stable.  It also comes in 32bit and 64bit flavours.

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FromTheRafters - 23 May 2008 20:46 GMT
You could try Windows One-Care (I think that's the
name) unless you hate it. You might not have any
reason to hate Alwil's Anti-vir or the Avast! program
from [I forget the name :o) ] yet - so maybe try them.
I don't hate them particularly much!

> My security center shows me that i dont have an installed anti-virus...
> it shows shows windows defender as an anti-spyware..
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> What anti-virus you recommend me to use ?
> (not AVG or Norton coz i hate them !!!!)
Hank Arnold (MVP) - 27 May 2008 10:39 GMT
> My security center shows me that i dont have an installed anti-virus...
> it shows shows windows defender as an anti-spyware..
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> What anti-virus you recommend me to use ?
> (not AVG or Norton coz i hate them !!!!)

I use ESET Security Suite. Their AV program NOD32 is very good........

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Hank Arnold
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Windows Server - Directory Services

Lowell Greenberg - 29 May 2008 15:03 GMT
I am a very technical user and spent weeks trying to determine the causes of
BSOD(s) that would appear erratically on startup/shutdown. It apparently was
related to a corrupted Kaspersky 7.0 install. Part of the corruption took
place during a Vista Home Premium to Ultimate upgrade- however, the install
may have been corrupted before the upgrade- since there were similar though
more sporadic issues prior to the upgrade.

I then uninstalled Kaspersky and began using BitDefender Antivirus 2008.
However, there was an issue with the software, that while it did not
compromise security was annoying and not insignificant. Their tech support
was unresponsive- causing me to drop them. The uninstall process required
using their separate uninstall utility in addition to the standard Windows
uninstall feature.

Yesterday evening I installed Eset NOD 32 antivirus. The system appears to
be functioning normally. The software seems lean and effective.

Reviewers in PC World, PC Magazine, CNET, etc. sometimes fail to
sufficiently take the user experience into account. Kaspersky is an
excellent protector- however- it may be prone to corruption and software
conflicts. BitDefender antivirus is fast and offers good protection- but may
have compatibility issues with Windows Vista and customer support
challenges.

I would recommend that users read the major publication reviews and then
read the reports produced by independent organizations such as Checkvir,
VB100, West Coast Labs, etc. They should pay attention to end user reviews,
recognizing their limitations, but factoring in their significance in
conjunction with the independent reviews.

>> My security center shows me that i dont have an installed anti-virus...
>> it shows shows windows defender as an anti-spyware..
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>
> I use ESET Security Suite. Their AV program NOD32 is very good........
 
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