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AlanP - 28 May 2008 17:24 GMT

Currently when faced with loss of security or the UAC prompt I go for loss
of security.

I think UAC has some real merits if it could learn what a user of a PC wants
to do on a regular basis. I think everyone, except MVPs supporting the
Microsoft community, agree it's very annoying to have the interrupt on
running non Microsoft products. If UAC were modified to interrupt the first
time a specific user runs a program (direct or by association) and during
that interrupt ask for permission to switch the interrupt off for that
specific program version, then not so many of us would scrap (turn off
permanently) the UAC prompt.
AlanP

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Dustin Harper - 28 May 2008 22:39 GMT

Although UAC is annoying, and in my opinion not ready for prime time (as you
say, has potential if it knows what the user wants), it was able to stop all
the root kits from installing when these guys were testing anti-virus
products. So, it's not all a loss. I do think that UAC needs a lot of work
to be less intrusive, as well as be application specific and "learn" what is
good and what is not.

http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/146256/vistas_despised_uac_nails_r
ootkits_tests_find.html

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> Currently when faced with loss of security or the UAC prompt I go for loss
> of security.
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> permanently) the UAC prompt.
> AlanP

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Bender - 29 May 2008 11:51 GMT

A lot of older programs do not have to be run as administrator, however they
were written that way anyway. The programmer should have designed the
application in the first place to be able to run as a standard user.
UAC will help older programs to be updated to run under a standard user
because of complaints by users. Complain to the makers of your applications
so they do the right thing and release an update.

Its not because the application is not a Microsoft product, its because the
maker of the application didn't follow guidelines available years ago or do
not want to bother updating their applications to follow the guidelines on
security.

> Currently when faced with loss of security or the UAC prompt I go for loss
> of security.
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> permanently) the UAC prompt.
> AlanP

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AlanP - 29 May 2008 16:58 GMT

Most of the non Microsoft programs written before Vista was launched have
this problem with UAC, the software world at large will not go back and
rewrite their programs to suit Vista, they will only do this when they
upgrade their own software. If people are happy with their existing programs
they will not pay for upgrades just to overcome UAC - hence my opening
remarks.

A lot of older programs do not have to be run as administrator, however they
were written that way anyway. The programmer should have designed the
application in the first place to be able to run as a standard user.
UAC will help older programs to be updated to run under a standard user
because of complaints by users. Complain to the makers of your applications
so they do the right thing and release an update.

Its not because the application is not a Microsoft product, its because the
maker of the application didn't follow guidelines available years ago or do
not want to bother updating their applications to follow the guidelines on
security.

> Currently when faced with loss of security or the UAC prompt I go for loss
> of security.
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> permanently) the UAC prompt.
> AlanP

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