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Dan Lingman - 07 Feb 2007 02:32 GMT
Have tried downloading Norton antivirus 2007, and it just hangs during the
install.  about to try the whole norton internet security suite.  What are
people out there using?

Dan.
pete - 07 Feb 2007 03:17 GMT
Avast
peter
> Have tried downloading Norton antivirus 2007, and it just hangs during the
> install.  about to try the whole norton internet security suite.  What are
> people out there using?
>
> Dan.
ABoyCalledSilly - 07 Feb 2007 06:27 GMT
Dan Lingman;170965 Wrote:
> Have tried downloading Norton antivirus 2007, and it just hangs during
> the
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>
> Dan.

AVG 7.5 by Grisoft is a nice/good application. I'm using it for ~1 year
now and am happy with it. It's not a system resource hawk and easy to
setup/use. For the 32-bit there's a free version available..., the
64-bit users among is need to pay (~ $30.00 for 2 yrs) or wait for the
release of a free version...

Robert

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Tony - 07 Feb 2007 08:32 GMT
NOD32 v2.7 is a good one.

> Have tried downloading Norton antivirus 2007, and it just hangs during the
> install.  about to try the whole norton internet security suite.  What are
> people out there using?
>
> Dan.
BChat - 07 Feb 2007 10:52 GMT
Have tried downloading Norton antivirus 2007, and it just hangs during the
install.  about to try the whole norton internet security suite.  What are
people out there using?

Dan.
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Dan,

I am using Avast Free and have used AVG Free. AVG may require you manually
start it after each boot.
(This situation is being addressed by AVG)

If you look through this NG, you are going to find that Symantec/Norton is
about as popular as a pimple on prom night with many of the posters.
Lars Nielsen - 07 Feb 2007 22:18 GMT
I am using kaspersky antivirus vers. 6.0.2.614

> Have tried downloading Norton antivirus 2007, and it just hangs during the
> install.  about to try the whole norton internet security suite.  What are
> people out there using?
>
> Dan.
Steve - 08 Feb 2007 05:36 GMT
I have been running Norton internet security 2007 with no issues on 64 bit
vista.  The antivirus piece should work ok. However make sure you downloaded
the vista version. It only became available to the public Jan 30, 2007. They
have done a good job with their new 2007 suite which surprised me since
their previous suites left alot to be desired.

Steve

> Have tried downloading Norton antivirus 2007, and it just hangs during the
> install.  about to try the whole norton internet security suite.  What are
> people out there using?
>
> Dan.
mgburgduff - 14 Feb 2007 16:45 GMT
I bought the boxed Norton 2007 and it won't install. The message I get is
that there is no solution. Have any ideas? mgburgduff

> Have tried downloading Norton antivirus 2007, and it just hangs during the
> install.  about to try the whole norton internet security suite.  What are
> people out there using?
>
> Dan.
Rock - 15 Feb 2007 00:43 GMT
>I bought the boxed Norton 2007 and it won't install. The message I get is
> that there is no solution. Have any ideas? mgburgduff
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>> are
>> people out there using?

Don't use it.

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phypps - 09 May 2007 09:29 GMT
Norton 360 works fine

Phypps

>>I bought the boxed Norton 2007 and it won't install. The message I get is
>> that there is no solution. Have any ideas? mgburgduff
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>
> Don't use it.
Mr. Arnold - 09 May 2007 12:27 GMT
> Norton 360 works fine
>
> Phypps

Nod32 from Eset works like a champ.
Paul Gibbons - 08 Apr 2007 10:58 GMT
Dan i had to go to nortons site and download their removal tool, because you
cant remove all of norton from controlpanel. download the software,remove all
norton stuff and them reinstall.  if you are so inclined say a prayer to BILL.

> Have tried downloading Norton antivirus 2007, and it just hangs during the
> install.  about to try the whole norton internet security suite.  What are
> people out there using?
>
> Dan.
. - 08 Apr 2007 11:48 GMT
Does bill work for symantec?

Or are you saying is Norton's an MS caused problem?

Because many older people loved Norton Utilities (at least up to version 6
they were great then they went the overlay route with nice graphical screen
and mice support). Version 11 got renamed back to Version 1 (so add 10 to
the current displayed version).

However Symantec bought nearly every single PC Utility company, Norton's was
one of the last to fall to them. Up till then Norton's product were sharply
focused on doing things to Disk that Dos couldn't or wouldn't. Their main
competitor was PCTools, owned by Symantec, but they were like how I'm about
to describe before symantec owned them.

They were more focused on utilities generally. Disk stuff was just one thing
they did (interestingly none of the utility companies did anti-virus and
there was no spywear). So you got a TSR Desktop Utilities as well.

As THE STANDARD OPERATING SYSTEM Dos/Windows/WindowsNT became more of a
finished product there was less need for Utility Products, or at least so
they feared (I'm unable to judge if we exclude AV, as I am, because to many
of us NU were essential, I'm not a grandparent wanting to look at photos of
kids). Both PCTools, Norton Utilities, and McAffee (anti virus) supplied
modified versions of their utilities to Dos 6 (and defrag in Windows 9x
supported all Norton Defragger for Dos command line switches, incl if you
wanted to use a mouse, what technical interface the mouse should have, whay
screen - graphical or text mode, and lots of other things.

So Symantec got into AV, they started making these hideous products, not
because they were needed, but to put features on the outside of a box for
marketing.

One example was crash guard. It's main problem is that it caused many
crashes. But it said it could uncrash programs. It is a bad idea to uncrash
programs, even more so in 16 bit windows. If Windows has crashed a program
it means something is wrong as in an ideal world the program expects the
error and has code to handle it. As computers are stupid and can't work out
a human's intent (windows cannot tell if a program has hung - it can guess
but it can't tell) then PC based computers crash as the best option to not
destroy data. A hung program may be generating errors galore, but it's their
own error so noone knows about them, or spinning in a loop, or waiting for
something that isn't going to happen. A crashed program is a program that
has given illegal instructions to the CPU, the CPU tells Windows (like
Invalid Op Code - it means the instruction list has garbage on it, or
accessing memory it isn't allowed to).

Norton's wrote their software in, to me, funny ways. In no version of
Norton's has all programs worked in the next Windows release.

There are easy ways and hard ways to program. In Windows many common things
are given to Windows to do. Like pressing keys and clicking menus, a easy
written program will only wait for a command number from windows (eg Do
command 1 - File - Open) as Windows looks after all the clicking to drop the
menu, highlight a selected item, making the menu in the first place, and
translating the command the user selects and sending that command from menu
or key to the program. The program may also be interested if you select a
menu item (but not activate it) so it can put Help text in the status bar. A
program written the hardway may write their own menus (like Office), and may
watch what happens with the keys eg key pressed then key released)

My suspicious nature made me suspect that it was delibrately written to
break to force upgrading before AV subscriptions became common and the
matter a bit moot.

Nortons and McAfee have been sucessful whereas Microsoft hasn't, yet, been
sucessful at geting rents rather than sales. Microsoft is a victim (in the
minds of short/medium term financial analysts) of lumpy revenue. Renting (is
an economic term - I use it delibrately as it gives a value free surface
meaning) is, and has been, MS's holy grail.
> Dan i had to go to nortons site and download their removal tool, because
> you
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>>
>> Dan.
Kevin - 10 May 2008 11:14 GMT
Avast - it's free, and much "lighter" on your system than Norton

> Have tried downloading Norton antivirus 2007, and it just hangs during the
> install.  about to try the whole norton internet security suite.  What are
> people out there using?
>
> Dan.
Man-wai Chang ToDie (33.6k) - 10 May 2008 12:11 GMT
> Avast - it's free, and much "lighter" on your system than Norton

Another one is http://www.free-av.com Antivir Personal
Also AVG Home.

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Aharon - 10 May 2008 15:49 GMT
Shalom all my pals,

I just upgraded on my Vista Ultimate laptop to new Norton Internet Security
2008 to replace expired 2007 version. The expired version never gave me
problem past year.

This time after upgrade, I am being blocked from entering into FSF website
unless I put this website into "trusted sites" section.

Same thing for other few websites.

Also, I lost ability to download any legitimate file from any website such
as avsim or so on using IE7.

Strange thing is that I have no problem DOING ANYTHING I want when I am
using Mozialla Firefox.

I could not find any function on either Norton Internet Security 2008 or IE7
to disable anything so that I can use this website or any other website and
download anything. I suspect there is some advanced protection somewhere.

I tried to use Symantec support web site service but they would not
recognize Firefox and requires use of IE7 to get in meaning I am out of luck.

I called via live chat with Microsoft who said it is out of their department
and I should try more advanced department of Microsoft via PHONE!!!

Anybody got any idea to solve this problem so that I can use IE7 freely.

Regards,

Aharon
Michael D. Ober - 10 May 2008 23:07 GMT
> Shalom all my pals,
>
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>
> Aharon

Dump Norton.

Mike Ober.
 
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