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JamesJ - 30 Dec 2007 00:10 GMT
I'm having a problem with system restore. Restore point are gone after
reboot. Anyway, if I reinstall Vista over the existing install will my
system basically the way it was without much changes and added clutter?
philo - 30 Dec 2007 00:27 GMT
> I'm having a problem with system restore. Restore point are gone after
> reboot. Anyway, if I reinstall Vista over the existing install will my
> system basically the way it was without much changes and added clutter?

Unless you get to the root of why your restore points disappear...
you may end up back in the same place after a re-install.

If you give more details youmay get some help.

Especially important would be what you did just prior to the problem...
and software you use...
and external devices...

Also...are you dual booting? etc
JamesJ - 30 Dec 2007 10:43 GMT
I have along thread in group: vista.general concerning this and so far
have not found a solution.
In short when I restart my computer restore point(s) are deleted.
They remain during the session but not after a shutdown/restart.
I've gone as far as uninstalling the 2 utilities I have -
PcTools Spyware Doctor and Desktop Mechanic (cleanup tool) and
then creating a restore point but it was gone when I restarted.

James

>> I'm having a problem with system restore. Restore point are gone after
>> reboot. Anyway, if I reinstall Vista over the existing install will my
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>
> Also...are you dual booting? etc
philo - 30 Dec 2007 12:14 GMT
> I have along thread in group: vista.general concerning this and so far
> have not found a solution.
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> PcTools Spyware Doctor and Desktop Mechanic (cleanup tool) and
> then creating a restore point but it was gone when I restarted.

Well if you are sure you have tried everything...
then I guess you might as well backup your data and perform a clean install.

Next time run your system without Desktop Mechanic...
just a guess, but it might have caused some irreparable damage
DevilsPGD - 30 Dec 2007 00:50 GMT
>I'm having a problem with system restore. Restore point are gone after
>reboot.

Any chance you're dual-booting with XP?
John Barnett MVP - 30 Dec 2007 15:36 GMT
If James is dual booting with XP then thee lies his answer. System Restore
works differently in XP to that in Vista, therefore, as soon as you boot
into XP it deletes all restore points and shadow copies on the Vista
partition.

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>>I'm having a problem with system restore. Restore point are gone after
>>reboot.
>
> Any chance you're dual-booting with XP?
JamesJ - 30 Dec 2007 17:48 GMT
no dual boot

James

> If James is dual booting with XP then thee lies his answer. System Restore
> works differently in XP to that in Vista, therefore, as soon as you boot
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>> Any chance you're dual-booting with XP?
David Morgan (MAMS) - 30 Dec 2007 19:34 GMT
"John Barnett MVP" <freelance@invalid.invalid> wrote...

> System Restore
> works differently in XP to that in Vista, therefore, as soon as you boot
> into XP it deletes all restore points and shadow copies on the Vista
> partition.

Thank goodness for small favors.     ;-)
John Barnett MVP - 30 Dec 2007 21:59 GMT
Sadly this little glitch was found out too late to do anything about. The
problem lies with XP, not Vista and, to repair the issue, would require an
extensive amount of recoding in windows XP. As Windows XP is being fazed out
Microsoft deemed it to expensive and time consuming to change the code. Yes
they had loads of complaints, but it looks like their hearing aid batteries
were in need of replacement:-)

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> "John Barnett MVP" <freelance@invalid.invalid> wrote...
>
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>
> Thank goodness for small favors.     ;-)
David Morgan (MAMS) - 30 Dec 2007 22:36 GMT
Personally,  I think that VISTA has no business making "shadow copies"
nor defaulting to allow up to 15% of one's drive space to be used to house
'restore' points.   So if XP kicks it's a.s for doing so, it's fine by me.     ;-)

DM

> Sadly this little glitch was found out too late to do anything about. The
> problem lies with XP, not Vista and, to repair the issue, would require an
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> >
> > Thank goodness for small favors.     ;-)
JamesJ - 31 Dec 2007 10:53 GMT
Vista sure doesn't make it easy to adjust "shadow copy" max space.

James

> Personally,  I think that VISTA has no business making "shadow copies"
> nor defaulting to allow up to 15% of one's drive space to be used to house
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>> >
>> > Thank goodness for small favors.     ;-)
David Morgan (MAMS) - 31 Dec 2007 11:41 GMT
> Vista sure doesn't make it easy to adjust "shadow copy" max space.
>
> James

Hard drive growing by the gigabyte overnight ?

Can't see why ?

Microsoft und Zee Department of Zee Homeland Zecurity can...

 ;-)

> > Personally,  I think that VISTA has no business making "shadow copies"
> > nor defaulting to allow up to 15% of one's drive space to be used to house
> > 'restore' points.   So if XP kicks it's a.s for doing so, it's fine by me.
> > ;-)
> >
> > DM

> >> Sadly this little glitch was found out too late to do anything about. The
> >> problem lies with XP, not Vista and, to repair the issue, would require
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> >> Yes they had loads of complaints, but it looks like their hearing aid batteries
> >> were in need of replacement:-)

> >> "David Morgan (MAMS)" <findme@m-a-m-s.comC/Odm> wrote in message

> >> > "John Barnett MVP" <freelance@invalid.invalid> wrote...

> >> >> System Restore works differently in XP to that in Vista, therefore,
> >> >> as soon as you boot into XP it deletes all restore points and shadow
> >> >> copies on the Vista partition.

> >> > Thank goodness for small favors.     ;-)
 
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