Home | Contact Us | FAQ | Search & Site Map | Link to Us
Sign In | Join | Other 45 Sites in Network
Home
Discussion GroupsWindows VistaWindows XPWindows MeWindows 98Windows 95Virtual PCInternet ExplorerOutlook ExpressWindows MediaSecurity
Related Topics
MS Server ProductsMS OfficePC HardwareMore Topics ...

Windows Forum / Windows Vista / Setup and Deployment / May 2008

Tip: Looking for answers? Try searching our database.

Is your Vista slow to re-establish the network after wake from sleep?

Thread view: 
Enable EMail Alerts  Start New Thread
Thread rating: 
turnstyle - 27 Jan 2008 14:39 GMT
Hi all, just wondering if a problem I'm having is limited to me, or if
it's a general Vista thing.

If you put your Vista PC (I'm on a laptop) to sleep, then wake it, and
(right after it wakes) try to visit a Web site -- does it take a
little while before that works for you?

With XP / Win200 I can immediately get online after it wakes, but with
Vista I have to wait -- so I'm curious to know if others have the same
problem, or if there's something funky about my setup.

So, if you have a sec -- it would be great if you might put yours to
sleep, wake it, and then try to visit a site -- does that work right
away for you, or do you have to wait too?

Thnanks! -Scott
Kerry Brown - 27 Jan 2008 15:21 GMT
> Hi all, just wondering if a problem I'm having is limited to me, or if
> it's a general Vista thing.
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>
> Thnanks! -Scott

This is dependent on many things. The first thing to check is your NIC
driver. Do you have the latest driver?

Signature

Kerry Brown
Microsoft MVP - Shell/User
http://www.vistahelp.ca/phpBB2/

turnstyle - 27 Jan 2008 15:51 GMT
> This is dependent on many things. The first thing to check is your NIC
> driver. Do you have the latest driver?

fwiw, it's a Thinkpad with the Intel B/G/N wi-fi card (the 4965AGN) --
according to the IBM/Lenovo site, it is up-to-date.

However your question made me think to try the same with the wired
connetion -- so I disabled the wi-fi, plugged in the Ethernet -- and
that worked as expected (ie, I'm online as soon as it wakes).

So this only happens for me over wi-fi -- anything else I might try?

Do you (or anybody else here) have a Vista laptop with wi-fi? If you
wake from sleep, are you immediately online, or do you have to wait
before it comes back?

Thanks kindly!  -Scott
Kerry Brown - 27 Jan 2008 16:24 GMT
>> This is dependent on many things. The first thing to check is your NIC
>> driver. Do you have the latest driver?
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
>
> Thanks kindly!  -Scott

You may want to try the latest driver direct from Intel. Intel seems to be
having a problem with drivers for that chipset. I have an Acer laptop that
uses a Broadcom wireless chipset. I had to try several drivers before I
found one that worked properly when resuming from sleep. The one I'm using
is actually an older driver from last June.

Signature

Kerry Brown
Microsoft MVP - Shell/User
http://www.vistahelp.ca/phpBB2/

turnstyle - 27 Jan 2008 17:06 GMT
Just curious -- if you sleep/wake your Acer with the wi-fi, does it re-
establish the network immediately? (ie, it would be interesting to
know if this happens for all Vista wi-fi connections, or just the
4965AGN)

Thanks!  -Scott
Kerry Brown - 27 Jan 2008 20:15 GMT
> Just curious -- if you sleep/wake your Acer with the wi-fi, does it re-
> establish the network immediately? (ie, it would be interesting to
> know if this happens for all Vista wi-fi connections, or just the
> 4965AGN)
>
> Thanks!  -Scott

From sleep it establishes immediately. From hibernation I usually have to do
a manual re-connect.

Signature

Kerry Brown
Microsoft MVP - Shell/User
http://www.vistahelp.ca/phpBB2/

turnstyle - 27 Jan 2008 21:03 GMT
Thanks for trying that -- so at least that means that Vista itself is
capable of re-establishing the network reasonably fast after it wakes
from sleep. (I just timed mine and it takes another 30-35 seconds
after I get the desktop).

Apart from updating the wi-fi driver, is there anything else that you
might suggest?

thanks again,  -Scott
Kerry Brown - 27 Jan 2008 21:35 GMT
> Thanks for trying that -- so at least that means that Vista itself is
> capable of re-establishing the network reasonably fast after it wakes
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> Apart from updating the wi-fi driver, is there anything else that you
> might suggest?

Make sure you have all the reliability updates installed.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=vista+reliability+update+site%3Amicrosoft.c
om&meta
=

Or wait for SP1 which includes all of the updates.

Signature

Kerry Brown
Microsoft MVP - Shell/User
http://www.vistahelp.ca/phpBB2/

Curious - 27 Jan 2008 22:43 GMT
How are you connected to the internet?  If using a router make sure it is
set up to refresh its connection to your ISP every 5 minutes or so, so that
the connection will not drop when you are not actively connected to the
router.
> Thanks for trying that -- so at least that means that Vista itself is
> capable of re-establishing the network reasonably fast after it wakes
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> thanks again,  -Scott
turnstyle - 27 Jan 2008 23:46 GMT
Thanks,

But it's not likely the router or wi-fi adapter -- I do have other
laptops here on wi-fi that do re-establish the network immediately
upon wake (one XP with B/G, and one Win2k with B).

I've only seen this with the Vista with 4965AGN...

-Scott
Curious - 28 Jan 2008 00:05 GMT
Does your wireless router also support B, G, and N?  If not can you force
your slow to connect system to only try G?
> Thanks,
>
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> -Scott
skipyourspams@yahoo.com - 04 Mar 2008 02:16 GMT
whats immeadiately?  i can go peform a task and come back
and its ready.  (that about 2 min)
Signature

nospampamiam

> > This is dependent on many things. The first thing to check is your NIC
> > driver. Do you have the latest driver?
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
>
> Thanks kindly!  -Scott
Claus - 25 Apr 2008 01:48 GMT
I have the same issue, but in my case the wireless adapter never re-establish
the connection (when I use the hybrid-sleep).

I have a linksys wusb300n, with the latest driver. I have contacted linksys
support and they informed me this is a common issue and does not have a
solution until today.

As a workaround, I set my start power button to hybernate instead of sleep.
That let me back to windows xp, but it is better than shutting down.

> > This is dependent on many things. The first thing to check is your NIC
> > driver. Do you have the latest driver?
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
>
> Thanks kindly!  -Scott
skipyourspams@yahoo.com - 04 Mar 2008 02:13 GMT
what is nic? do u mean ncsi?
Signature

nospampamiam

> > Hi all, just wondering if a problem I'm having is limited to me, or if
> > it's a general Vista thing.
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
> This is dependent on many things. The first thing to check is your NIC
> driver. Do you have the latest driver?
Curious - 04 Mar 2008 02:17 GMT
Network Interface Card - NIC
> what is nic? do u mean ncsi?
>
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
>> This is dependent on many things. The first thing to check is your NIC
>> driver. Do you have the latest driver?
Chuck E - 05 May 2008 18:01 GMT
Hello, Pragnesh,

I tried to write you but I guess it didn’t get through. I owe you a great
deal of thanks s by following your instructions the whole situation was
completely cleared up. Both the keyboard Zoom and the mouse lateral scroller
activate with only one click of the icon and continue to work throughout the
session. All in all I can say that the improvement is quite dramatic. If I
can write to your supervisor to tell him/her of your help I'll be more than
happy to do so.

While I've got you here three is one other issue that you might be able to
help me with, though I'm not sure if this is something that qualifies as
hardware or if it would be software. At any rate the issue is this. my
operating system is Vista Ultimate SP1 and there is one item that is
something of a bother. On the start line there is an arrow to the right
beyond which is a box with several options one of which is Sleep. For almost
as long as I have had this computer, which came with the Vista, it has been
very reluctant to enter the Sleep mode. If it is working properly the monitor
will shut down and a moment later the computer as indicated by the operation
of the fan also shuts down leaving the power light blinking slowly. To
reawaken the computer one can either press any key or slick the mouse and the
computer will return to the state it was in before the Sleep selection. Ever
since I've had the computer however it has been reluctant to go to sleep.
When I first got it would go to sleep probably 3 times of five, but that
frequency has steadily diminished; since installing SP1 it got noticeably
worse to the point where it will go to sleep at the most 1 out of 10
attempts. The rest of the time after clicking on the sleep command the
monitor will shut down followed a few seconds later by the hard drive light.
The power light, however, stays on steadily and indefinitely. There are no
inputs of any kind that have any effect on the computer. The only way to shut
it down is to press and hold the power button for several seconds until the
power is in fact shut off. When it comes to restarting the computer the power
button must be pushed and then it proceeds through the beginning of the
startup procedure. There then appears a screen that gives the option to
“Restart Windows Normally.” If this is not clicked the computer seems to go
into a mode of some sort of self check which takes at least several minutes.
After selecting the “Start Windows Normally” it does seem to go through a
normal sequence of starting. When the restart is complete it simply comes to
the user selection screen and then the desktop. There is no return to the
condition of preceding the sleep attempt.  I read somewhere that another way
to trigger the sleep mode is to press the Start button between the Cntrl key
and the Alt key, then move on almost immediately to press the Right arrow
key, followed by Enter. This has worked perhaps once or twice, but sleep is
not entered it goes through the same procedure as with the sleep selection at
the end of the Start bar. It is actually easiest to choose “Shut Down” rather
than sleep. I know that all this is a bit unusual, and though I wrote to
Gateway about it their answer did ne no good at all. That is why I certainly
hope that as an actual Microsoft representative you can maybe come up with
ideas as effective as your setting straight the Keyboard and Mouse. Your
directions were quite clear and as soon as they had been instituted the
problem was gone. By the way, you mentioned changing the USB ports and I did
try that, but there was no difference afterward. It was the other steps that
seemed to be quite effective and I thank you for your help.

From: Microsoft PC Hardware Technical Support
[mailto:HARDW.CONQ.NA.00.EN.STR.MUM.TS.1FL.PXG.00.WB@css.one.microsoft.com]
Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 10:53 AM
To: CharlesEtheridge@comcast.net
Subject: SRX1065674465ID - 1065674465

> Network Interface Card - NIC
> > what is nic? do u mean ncsi?
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
> >> This is dependent on many things. The first thing to check is your NIC
> >> driver. Do you have the latest driver?
Mr. Arnold - 28 Jan 2008 04:51 GMT
> Hi all, just wondering if a problem I'm having is limited to me, or if
> it's a general Vista thing.
>
> If you put your Vista PC (I'm on a laptop) to sleep, then wake it, and
> (right after it wakes) try to visit a Web site -- does it take a
> little while before that works for you?

No and that's wired or wireless.
turnstyle - 28 Jan 2008 14:11 GMT
Hi all,

An update on my slow-to-reestablish network, after my Vista laptop
wakes from sleep...

I had been using a "no broadcast SSID" wi-fi setup, and Vista seems a
bit bumpy with that (as compared to a more conventional broadcast SSID
setup).

My XP and Win2k laptops both immediately reestablished the network
with the no-broadcast setup, but my Vista took more than 30 seconds.

After some tinkering, I discovered that if I changed the wi-fi adapter
to use a broadcast SSID setup, then the Vista laptop would now
reestablish the network immediately, like the others.

So -- it seems that was the troublemaker -- hopefully this info will
prove useful to somebody... ;)

-Scott
Kerry Brown - 28 Jan 2008 15:08 GMT
Thanks for the update. That's useful to know.

Not broadcasting the SSID doesn't really add any security to your wireless.
It may actually cause  problems with some new N class routers clobbering
your router because they don't see your network and broadcast on the same
channel.

Signature

Kerry Brown
Microsoft MVP - Shell/User
http://www.vistahelp.ca/phpBB2/

> Hi all,
>
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
>
> -Scott
turnstyle - 28 Jan 2008 20:41 GMT
I do understand that not broadcasting the SSID isn't formal security,
but it still has its uses.

Regardless of the merits of non-broadcast SSID networks, it still
seems Vista shouldn't take 30+ seconds to recconect after wake (as
compared to XP/Win2k, which do so immediately).

Thanks again -- this thread helped me finally fix an annoying
problem!  ;)

-Scott
Curious - 28 Jan 2008 20:57 GMT
My Vista laptop using wireless and my vista desktop wired connection both
instantly connect to the network on wakeup.
>I do understand that not broadcasting the SSID isn't formal security,
> but it still has its uses.
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
> -Scott
turnstyle - 28 Jan 2008 21:30 GMT
> My Vista laptop using wireless and my vista desktop wired connection both
> instantly connect to the network on wakeup.

Hey Curious -- my guess is that your wireless network is using a
traditional broadcast SSID. After some tinkering, I changed my network
from non-broadcast to broadcast, and the problem went away. (also note
that only my Vista laptop was slow connecting to the non-broadcast
network -- my XP and Win2k laptops were always fine.)

thanks again,  -Scott
murphyslaww - 15 Feb 2008 11:08 GMT
in addition, should we now eliminate the not-broadcasting SSID settings from
all routers now, since Vista doesn't like it?

> I do understand that not broadcasting the SSID isn't formal security,
> but it still has its uses.
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
> -Scott
Shatadru - 10 Feb 2008 10:07 GMT
Hi Vistas is slow generally. I recently brought a Sony Vio TZ model with
pre-loaded Vista Business edition-which turned out to be slower than the
windows 97 run on my first computer purchased in 1994.

It is expected that the micorosoft would be attempting to reduce the booting
time of its windows. However it is becoming clear that what it seeks is to
load the brand new computers with heavy operating systems and then as a
solution asks you to but RAM and booster drives etc. Also this would be great
for processor makers as they would go on increasing the processing speed bit
like Bubkas long jump records.

Come on guys-give us a break. Give a good system, we are willing to pay a
good price for that-but not this way. I am changing to Apple-its way ahead.

Shatadru C

> Hi all, just wondering if a problem I'm having is limited to me, or if
> it's a general Vista thing.
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>
> Thnanks! -Scott
jrock35 - 22 Feb 2008 16:48 GMT
2/22/08
I 'm using a new HP 6000 series laptop with WI-Fi and just tried what you
said was a problem for you.Put it to sleep and did a wake up.It took about 3
or 4 seconds for it to hook up.I don't consider that to be a problem,Hope
this helps. jrock35

> Hi all, just wondering if a problem I'm having is limited to me, or if
> it's a general Vista thing.
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>
> Thnanks! -Scott
stingray1965 - 27 Feb 2008 13:05 GMT
If you guys think that is bad, try this one on for size.

My wife and I both have Vista desktops with Linksys wireless network
adapters and I have a Vista laptop that I sometimes use on the same home
wireless network.  My daughter has an XP desktop with a Linksys wireless
network adapter.  The XP desktop NEVER has a problem reconnecting with the
network after being asleep.  However, not only do the Vista computers  drop
the network after going to sleep overnight, but when we go to reconnect, the
adapter can't find the network.  We either have to reboot the computer or
disable then reenable the driver for the adapter.  And we have the most
recent Linksys adapter drivers available.

Anybody have any ideas on how to solve that problem?  Linksys has been no
help at all.

Thanks in advance.
Charlie - 27 Feb 2008 15:28 GMT
I remember when reading about the fixes in the upcoming Vista SP1 your issue was one they had fixed. I have no link but I think it was on the Microsoft Tech net site.
It was a really long list of fixes in Vista SP1.I found the link!   It is at this URL:

(1) http://technet2.microsoft.com/WindowsVista/en/library/005f921e-f706-401e-abb5-ee
c42ea0a03e1033.mspx?mfr=true


Charlie

> If you guys think that is bad, try this one on for size.
>
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>
> Thanks in advance.
JW - 27 Feb 2008 15:30 GMT
I have seen the same problem and found that if I try to log on to the router
at 192.168.1.1 that it can which means that it is in fact connected and
after that it will show up and start working.  At other times it will
connect to another Linksys router on the network and not mine and I have to
disconnect from the other one before it will find mine or before I log on to
my router.
> If you guys think that is bad, try this one on for size.
>
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>
> Thanks in advance.
JW - 27 Feb 2008 18:34 GMT
Charlie's post and mine above were written at the same time.  Now that I
have seen his I would like to add that my laptop is running Vista Home
Premium SP1 RC1 and I am not sure that I was having the problem before I
installed SP1 RC1 back in December. Hopefully the problem will go away when
I install SP1 RTM when it is released next month.
>I have seen the same problem and found that if I try to log on to the
>router at 192.168.1.1 that it can which means that it is in fact connected
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
>>
>> Thanks in advance.
adammik - 28 Feb 2008 23:36 GMT
I have the same experience.  I have Vista on a laptop with Wi-Fi.  When it
awakes, it takes about 20 seconds to reestablish the Wi-Fi internet
connection.

> Hi all, just wondering if a problem I'm having is limited to me, or if
> it's a general Vista thing.
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>
> Thnanks! -Scott
addie - 04 Mar 2008 13:18 GMT
I have had this problem since I got my new computer running vista on it. Also
I keep geeting errors in my event log that it can't reastablish a connection,
but I can get online, it just takes longer. I have called HP about it but
they don't know anything, I called microsoft and they want more money to talk
to me, but this is a problem with vista. I did some research and found that
they do have a patch you can apply for it, but I am not sure if I should mess
around with that. If anyone knows of this and has done it successfully, can
you please let me know? I am working on a desktop HP pavillion computer.
Thanks

> Hi all, just wondering if a problem I'm having is limited to me, or if
> it's a general Vista thing.
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>
> Thnanks! -Scott
FourForsters - 04 Mar 2008 23:53 GMT
Hi,  I've been reading this string of posts for a couple weeks now hoping to
see my problem listed.  I have an HP dv9623cl with dual 1.9 GHz processors
running Vista Home Premium version 6.0.6000, 2 GB of main memory and about
300 GB of storage on 3 installed hard drives.  You'd think with that kind of
processing and storage power everything would happen 5-10 seconds BEFORE you
pressed a key.

If I shut the top when I reopen it it starts back up in a short time, maybe
10-20 seconds.  If I just leave it sit, it goes to sleep (or something like
that) and takes from 3-6 MINUTES to open back up.  I have to press the power
key to get it going and then go fix something to eat because it takes forever
to get back to where I can see the desktop.  It takes it maybe 5-10 seconds
to connect to the web after the desktop comes active.

AmI the only one having this problem?  Is there something really easy that
I'm just not doing?  I am quite hardware oriented, I am an EE and designed
military and telecom computers for 25 years) but have never been really
interested in systems and software.  I am a user, not a system type.  
Probably dumb but that's the way I started out and just kept at it.  Besides,
I am fused from T11 down to L6 in my back and the medicine I take screws my
memory so bad some times I can't do what I used to do so I retired.

I havew an older (1 year old) HP laptop running XP with 100 GB of disk, 1 GB
main memory and a .9 GHz processor and have NEVER had these problems.  I
really don't like Vista but can't reload with XP because my wife uses it with
an HP Express digital tuner.  Some things are just out of my control.  
Actually I don't mind it at all but things like this pose problems.

Does anyone have a soultion?  I would greatly appreciate it.

Many thanks to anyone with suggestions.
Double D - 20 Mar 2008 02:14 GMT
I have a similar problem,  working on my computer off and on all day, but
when I go to log off or shut down at night, it won't. I end up having to shut
it off by the power button. Its a laptop, using wireless, and update
regularly.

> Hi all, just wondering if a problem I'm having is limited to me, or if
> it's a general Vista thing.
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>
> Thnanks! -Scott
vistauser5 - 10 Apr 2008 06:10 GMT
Not only that but Vista can be awfully slow when trying to shut down . I
would think after a year Microsoft could have resolved these problems . I am
sure that many have complained . I wonder if Vista is the worst Windows yet .
Bill Gates should certainly be issuing some refund checks .

> Hi all, just wondering if a problem I'm having is limited to me, or if
> it's a general Vista thing.
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>
> Thnanks! -Scott
vistauser5 - 10 Apr 2008 06:16 GMT
What is an NIC Driver ? Where do you find it and how do you update it ? The
slowness of Vista on certain things can drive you nuts .

> Hi all, just wondering if a problem I'm having is limited to me, or if
> it's a general Vista thing.
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>
> Thnanks! -Scott
Juice - 14 Apr 2008 16:21 GMT
It is not limited to you.  I have the same problem but I am not a Tech person
and don't know how to resolve the problem.

> Hi all, just wondering if a problem I'm having is limited to me, or if
> it's a general Vista thing.
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>
> Thnanks! -Scott
nobodygr8@ms.org - 16 Apr 2008 07:59 GMT
Same problem here... :-(

> It is not limited to you.  I have the same problem but I am not a Tech
> person
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
>>
>> Thnanks! -Scott
PK - 17 Apr 2008 00:18 GMT
well I just installed Vista for the second time, after it goes to sleep when
i try and wake it up the pc goes crazy and dont respond to me, you can hear
the engine rumble

> Hi all, just wondering if a problem I'm having is limited to me, or if
> it's a general Vista thing.
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>
> Thnanks! -Scott
RE-CYCLED TEENAGER - 21 Apr 2008 23:25 GMT
I HAD THIS SAME PROBLEM AND AFTER SPENDING HOURS ON THE PHONE TO INDIA,
LUCKILY THEY HAD TO PHONE ME ON MY MOBILE, AS I CANNOT USE MY LANDLINE AND
INTERNET AT THE SAME TIME, MY COMPUTER TOWER HAD TO GO BACK TO DELL (inspiron
530) ONLY BOUGHT LAST JULY. NOW RETURNED, APPEARS NEW HARD DRIVE FITTED.
STILL NOT AS FAST AS IT WAS, I BLAIM THE NEW POWER SAVE MODE WHICH APPEARED A
COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO, NO PROBLEMS PREVIOUSLY. LOST ALL MY DATA, INFO ON
SCREEN NOT THE SAME, LOST LOTS OF MY TOOLBAR eg AUTOFILL, WISH I HAD
CONTINUED USING THE COMPUTER AT THE LIBRARY AND SAVED MY MONEY.

> Hi all, just wondering if a problem I'm having is limited to me, or if
> it's a general Vista thing.
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>
> Thnanks! -Scott
jaf - 22 Apr 2008 02:52 GMT
Wish I had that problem. I have a Gateway laptop, windows vista home premimum
and I can't get the screen saver or sleep mode to work.  Any ideas?
Thanks

> Hi all, just wondering if a problem I'm having is limited to me, or if
> it's a general Vista thing.
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>
> Thnanks! -Scott
RICKY - 23 Apr 2008 01:44 GMT
Greetings
I have same problem,but I have not notice others with the same problem.

> Hi all, just wondering if a problem I'm having is limited to me, or if
> it's a general Vista thing.
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>
> Thnanks! -Scott
 
Sign In
Join
My Latest Posts
My Monitored Threads
My Blog
My Photo Gallery
My Profile
My Homepage

Start New Thread
Enable EMail Alerts
Rate this Thread



©2008 Advenet LLC   Privacy Policy - Terms of Use
This website includes both content owned or controlled by Advenet as well as content owned or controlled by third parties.