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Windows Forum / Windows Vista / Setup and Deployment / April 2007Windows Vista Ultimate Installation
Hi, I recently purchased Windows Vista Ultimate 64 bit. When I come to do a clean install, it asks me for a CD / DVD driver. After reading several topics in here, I discovered that it was looking for the IDE controller drivers. I downloaded the vista ones and put them on cd. It saw the drivers whilst the "dont show drivers that aren't compatible" box was ticked. I selected the driver and clicked next and it came up with the same error message. I then read further on this site, and I was told to try using the old drivers. I tried these and still got the same message. I have searched several sites and cannot find anything specific to this problem Please help... Thanks Vista has all the CD DVD and IDE drivers it needs. Maybe if you were a little more specific as to the steps you went thru and exactly when it asked for the drivers, someone could help > Hi, > [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > Thanks I beg to differ. My laptop required the IDE drivers (Newer Gateway P4 laptop). Threw them on a disk and the install finished and worked great. It took a long while to get them working though. I was doing a dual boot, couldn't find the drivers off the Gateway site, so I used the Windows XP drivers. Worked this time. Not sure if it would work for you, though.  SignatureDustin Harper dharper@vistarip.com http://www.vistarip.com -- > Vista has all the CD DVD and IDE drivers it needs. Maybe if you were a > little more specific as to the steps you went thru and exactly when it [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] >> >> Thanks There hasn't been a change in IDE standards since XP that would require any drivers but the Microsoft supplied atapi.sys and ataport.sys Just curious what driver you have installed. >I beg to differ. My laptop required the IDE drivers (Newer Gateway P4 >laptop). Threw them on a disk and the install finished and worked great. It [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] >>> >>> Thanks >There hasn't been a change in IDE standards since XP that would require any >drivers but the Microsoft supplied atapi.sys and ataport.sys >Just curious what driver you have installed. The IDE standard may not have changed, but that doesn't mean that there aren't IDE controllers which need updated drivers. It's possible the controller adds some of it's own memory for caching, for example. RAID is another example, although less likely on a laptop (but not impossible, I have a laptop that supports three physical drives) SignatureI'd give my right arm to be ambidextrous. No one was talking about RAID, which does need drivers. Name one IDE controller that doesn't function with default IDE drivers. >>There hasn't been a change in IDE standards since XP that would require >>any [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > (but not impossible, I have a laptop that supports three physical > drives) Not esoteric server boards, though. > No one was talking about RAID, which does need drivers. Name one IDE > controller that doesn't function with default IDE drivers. [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >> (but not impossible, I have a laptop that supports three physical >> drives) >Not esoteric server boards, though. Sure -- In that case, lets just name all the IDE controllers that need additional drivers that don't work with the built-in IDE drivers. *sigh* SignatureI'd give my right arm to be ambidextrous. >>Not esoteric server boards, though. > >Sure -- In that case, lets just name all the IDE controllers that need >additional drivers that don't work with the built-in IDE drivers. > >*sigh* Oh, and to answer your question, any Gigabyte IDE or SATA motherboard which has RAID on board -- If RAID is enabled, then you need the RAID drivers even if you don't use the RAID functionality. Simply plugging your drive into the RAID instead of non-RAID ports are not sufficient. SignatureI'd give my right arm to be ambidextrous. How many posts back did I say RAID needed drivers. The whole string was about standard IDE /ATA/ CD/DVD. Since the post was about CD/DVD, I personally have never seen RAID CD/DVD setup, but I am sure you must have. As of now, no SIS, nVidia or Via southbridges need other than the standard Microsoft supplied IDE drivers. Other than RAID, maybe you are confused that nVidia labels a driver set IDE when they are for SATA to operate in IDE mode, not for the IDE controller. >>>Not esoteric server boards, though. >> [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Simply plugging your drive into the RAID instead of non-RAID ports are > not sufficient. >How many posts back did I say RAID needed drivers. The whole string was >about standard IDE /ATA/ CD/DVD. Since the post was about CD/DVD, I [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >that nVidia labels a driver set IDE when they are for SATA to operate in IDE >mode, not for the IDE controller. Semantics -- You can use many RAID controllers as IDE controllers, even optical drives sometimes work. The only different to the user may be the colour of the port on the motherboard, and the drivers you'd need. SignatureI'd give my right arm to be ambidextrous. I choose the language to install vista in and then it waits and then asks a few mins later "cannot find cd/dvd driver etc...." I downloaded the vista JMicron IDE Controller from the MSI website. It can see the driver and when I click next, it waits a few mins and then says "unable to find new driver" It is exactly the same when I try the old drivers as well for XP. Its happening at the very beginning of the installation and I have the correct drivers, but it just won't accept them. What would you recommend? > Vista has all the CD DVD and IDE drivers it needs. Maybe if you were a > little more specific as to the steps you went thru and exactly when it asked [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > > > > Thanks Does the MOBO have a later BIOS? When you say it waits, is anything showing as doing anything (if so, what), or is it a hang type wait? It is using the DVD player when it asks you so it has the driver. It asks for any drive hd drivers at the time you select the place to make the installation. Since we have no idea about your system, how about providing some information. What are you installing on? Others have had to temporarily unplug extra hard drives and cd drives. Do you have multiple CD/DVD drives? Both IDE and SATA hard drives? >I choose the language to install vista in and then it waits and then asks a > few mins later "cannot find cd/dvd driver etc...." I downloaded the vista [quoted text clipped - 38 lines] >> > >> > Thanks Hi, I have updated my BIOS to the latest version. I have also tried completely unplugging my DVD ROM drive and installing from USB, to which I get the same error message "A required CD/DVD device driver is missing. If you have a driver floopy disk, cd dvd, or usb please insert it now." I have downloaded the latest Vista drivers from the website and the installation program sees them. When I select it and click next the green bar comes across several times and then I am presented with another message " No new devices could be found. Make sure the driver files are correctt and loacted on the new driver installation media." I have even tried the old XP drivers with the "only show compatible drivers" box unchecked and it does the same thing. I am running a MSI P965 Neo board with an Intel Dual core Core Duo 2.4Ghz. My hard drive is a Maxtor and is plugged into a SATA 2 port on the Motherboard. I have tried moving it to a different SATA slot which made the whole process a lot faster for some reason, there was no wait time at all between selecting language and receving the error message. It also doesn't show up anymore on the JMIcron RAID devices and is in BIOS, under devices instead as a secondary master. But apart from the speed increase of installation, this made no difference. I only have one hard drive and one DVD rom drive and one usb drive (which I have turned off and on to see if it affects it) I am completely lost now and I don't know why windows can't recognise my hardware....??? Please help Thanks > Does the MOBO have a later BIOS? When you say it waits, is anything showing > as doing anything (if so, what), or is it a hang type wait? It is using the [quoted text clipped - 47 lines] > >> > > >> > Thanks Since you have tried two BIOS's and even removed any CD/DVD devices from your system, hopefully someone with your board will be able to help. You might also post what your BIOS and versions are as that may help if someone got a different version to work with your board. I copied the following info from the MOBO site in case you haven't seen it and you need to make adjustments. Highly unlikely this is related to this problem. Due to the High Performance Memory design, motherboards or system configurations may or may not operate smoothly at the JEDEC (Joint Electron Device Engineering Council) standard settings (BIOS Default on the motherboard) such as DDR2 voltage, memory speeds and memory timing. Please confirm and adjust your memory setting in the BIOS accordingly for better system stability. > Hi, > [quoted text clipped - 106 lines] >> >> > >> >> > Thanks The version 1.6 BIOS seems to work best for many. Don't know what you have tried but other versions have been panned. Also, Vista is being informed by the BIOS incorrectly about something on the machine. I would suggest that you turn off all IDE and SATA that you are not using and make sure you have the right mode selected for the one you are using > Hi, > [quoted text clipped - 106 lines] >> >> > >> >> > Thanks Hi, Thanks for your help John, its much appreciated. The BIOS version I am using at the moment is 1.8 (the newest) I have tried 1.6 with no luck. I have one HD and its SATA only so I have to use it. I unplugged the IDE cable for the DVD and just used the USB Drive. I got the same error messages, however when I went to select the JMicron RAID/IDE drivers it would not see them, so I presumed it was looking to install something else. It was, the Realtek Gigabit Ethernet NIC. So I pointed it at these drivers, which produced the same error message as before. I decided to turn this off in BIOS, and got the same error message on installation. I looked for the Gigabit drivers and it wouldn't see them, so I presumed that it had moved on to looking for another device to install, so after checking all of the available driver updates available online from the MSI website, which were only 5, I found that it wasn't looking for anything that I could recognise. I've tried turning down the voltages also, as you mentioned earlier in BIOS, which produced no visible result. I'm not sure what the problem is here. Whether it can't install anything at all and even though the correct drivers are there, it refuses to install them and gives out an error message, or there is something wrong with the whole installation. I'm a bit lost, any more ideas?? Thanks > The version 1.6 BIOS seems to work best for many. Don't know what you have > tried but other versions have been panned. Also, Vista is being informed by [quoted text clipped - 112 lines] > >> >> > > >> >> > Thanks > Hi, Thanks for your help John, its much appreciated. > > The BIOS version I am using at the moment is 1.8 (the newest) I have tried > 1.6 with no luck. I have one HD and its SATA only so I have to use it. I > unplugged the IDE cable for the DVD and just used the USB Drive... Do I understand correctly that, so far, all the third-party drivers you have fed to Vista have been on a CD/DVD of some kind? (Not quite sure from reading what you've said.) If so, I might try putting the drivers on a floppy or a USB stick instead, because your problem seems to be with drivers for DVD devices, and you are looking for the drivers on the device that Vista thinks is not yet working properly. (Perhaps.) I did at first. Then I have since tried loading the drivers from a USB stick and from a hard drive. I'm really lost with this one and I can't seem to find the answer anywhere. The XP installation was sooooo much easier, no probs at all. I just don't understand what the installation wants. If anyone can help, its much appreciated Thanks > > Hi, Thanks for your help John, its much appreciated. > > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > and you are looking for the drivers on the device that Vista thinks > is not yet working properly. (Perhaps.) > ... I have since tried loading the drivers from a USB stick > and from a hard drive. > > I'm really lost with this one and I can't seem to find the answer anywhere. > The XP installation was sooooo much easier, no probs at all. I just don't > understand what the installation wants. I went back over this long thread and ran across this info from a post by DevilsPDG: ...any Gigabyte IDE or SATA motherboard which has RAID on board -- If RAID is enabled, then you need the RAID drivers even if you don't use the RAID functionality. Simply plugging your drive into the RAID instead of non-RAID ports are not sufficient. It might be worth considering even if your mobo isn't by Gigabyte. Best to just turn RAID off in the BIOS if you aren't going to use it as it will save boot up time. >> ... I have since tried loading the drivers from a USB stick >> and from a hard drive. [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > It might be worth considering even if your mobo isn't by Gigabyte. I have tried turning the RAID off in BIOS, because I don't use it, but it still throws up the error message during installation. I'm not sure what it is that it is after??? Any more ideas?? > Best to just turn RAID off in the BIOS if you aren't going to use it as it > will save boot up time. [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > > > It might be worth considering even if your mobo isn't by Gigabyte. If you have disabled everything on the MOBO that can be disabled and cannot get an install, there isn't much you can do. I have researched your board, and quite frankly you are not alone. I have NEVER seen a MOBO so badly reviewed before on NewEgg http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductReview.aspx?Item=N82E16813130052 I suggest you read down thru the reviews and often you will be able to find someone else who had your problem and solved it or ended up swapping mobos. Good luck >I have tried turning the RAID off in BIOS, because I don't use it, but it > still throws up the error message during installation. I'm not sure what [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] >> > >> > It might be worth considering even if your mobo isn't by Gigabyte. I have read through all of the posts on newegg.com. In all honesty apart from this issue with Vista, the board is fine. Most users that have issues on this site say that they have issues with the board because it is geared towards Vista. I just can't afford to buy a new mobo yet. And I don't really want to, if there can be a solution. I have posted at the MSI forums to see if someone can help. Thanks for your help and advice > If you have disabled everything on the MOBO that can be disabled and cannot > get an install, there isn't much you can do. I have researched your board, [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] > >> > > >> > It might be worth considering even if your mobo isn't by Gigabyte. At this point, that is the smartest thing to do. Nobody here seems to have that board and solved the Vista install problems. Good luck. I am sure when they get the BIOS issue solved so it works with Vista, it will be a good board. Just a matter of waiting. I had a similar problem when SATAII drives came along and my MOBO would not allow me to install an OS on it, just use it as a data drive. >I have read through all of the posts on newegg.com. In all honesty apart >from [quoted text clipped - 58 lines] >> >> > >> >> > It might be worth considering even if your mobo isn't by Gigabyte. > At this point, that is the smartest thing to do. Nobody here seems to have > that board and solved the Vista install problems. Good luck. [quoted text clipped - 67 lines] > > - Show quoted text - I got the same error. Switched my cd rom to slave. Hurraa!!! It worked fine at first. Then Vista would not recognize the second Vista installation CD, so I restarted the install. Guess what. I got the same "CD\DVD" error again with the same setup. For some reason Vista does not like my CD ROM drive. It works one time and then decides not to work the second. You would think Microsoft could test these things before hand. I few people have had success by swapping CD/DVD drives. You may want to try the same thing. That's my next step. |
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