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Anyone know why I can't rename folders?
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wyatt - 02 Jun 2006 04:09 GMT Running beta 2 and I can't rename folders after I create them. I can rename files in the NEW FOLDER that I create. Any Ideas? Thanks.
Andre Da Costa [Extended64] - 02 Jun 2006 06:18 GMT Have you checked the properties of the folder to see if read only rights is on it? If so, uncheck the box and try renaming again. Also, I would check the permissions on the folder you are trying to rename.
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> Running beta 2 and I can't rename folders after I create them. I can > rename > files in the NEW FOLDER that I create. Any Ideas? Thanks. Zack Whittaker - 02 Jun 2006 11:29 GMT If it's on a network share, make sure you've got permission to ;o)
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> Have you checked the properties of the folder to see if read only rights > is on it? If so, uncheck the box and try renaming again. Also, I would > check the permissions on the folder you are trying to rename. >> Running beta 2 and I can't rename folders after I create them. I can >> rename >> files in the NEW FOLDER that I create. Any Ideas? Thanks. wyatt - 02 Jun 2006 14:24 GMT Thanks for the reply. I'm trying to create a folder on my local drive. I right click and choose "New" -> "Folder". The folder is created (New Folder) and I try to change the name and when I press enter the name doesn't change. I can then drill down into the the folder and create files and rename those.
I did check the security on the parent folder of the folder that I'm trying to create and I have all premissions on it.
> If it's on a network share, make sure you've got permission to ;o) > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > >> rename > >> files in the NEW FOLDER that I create. Any Ideas? Thanks. Andre Da Costa [Extended64] - 02 Jun 2006 16:00 GMT Where on the drive are you trying to rename the folder, drive root, Documents folder, desktop? What type of account is this, Administrator or Limited User? I have created a new folder in the locations I specified and they work just fine.
If you are viewing or editing files from within the folder, you can't rename it. For example, I was reviewing a Word document from within the folder I created, but I could rename the folder because it was in use by Microsoft Word. My recommendation would be clean out your temp directory.
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> Thanks for the reply. > I'm trying to create a folder on my local drive. I right click and choose [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] >> >> rename >> >> files in the NEW FOLDER that I create. Any Ideas? Thanks. Tony Sperling - 02 Jun 2006 22:01 GMT Hello, Andre,
This is a slightly different problem I think. You cannot make a newly created directory/folder active until you have named it - apparently Wyatt is creating a new folder and is presented a folder with the text "New Folder" hi-lited so that he can create a name, whereupon whatever he types is rejected and the hi-lited New Folder stays unaffected. This is most unusual.
Also, it cannot be a permission problem because then the new folder wouldn't appear at all, I believe.
Please, tell us Wyatt - are you having other difficulties with that system? Things you believe should work, that doesn't???
Tony. . .
> Where on the drive are you trying to rename the folder, drive root, > Documents folder, desktop? What type of account is this, Administrator or [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] >>> >> rename >>> >> files in the NEW FOLDER that I create. Any Ideas? Thanks. wyatt - 03 Jun 2006 03:49 GMT Tony,
This is the exact problem. I can't rename folders after I create them but I can create and rename files in the folder I just created.
Yes I'm having other issues that I shouldn't with the system. Folders that I should have access to I can't access or copy (no apparent premissions problems).
To give you the history on this machine. I did an upgrade from xp service pack 2. The machine was on a domain. If i create a local account and log in on that account I can create and name the folders as I wish.
I was thinking about deleting this account, removing the user directory for the user and then adding it back. Of course I don't know if the operating system will let me do this (I haven't figured out how to run as a real admin yet) and I don't know if it will correct it self since the username will be the same since it is on a domain.
Thanks for your reply. Wyatt
> Hello, Andre, > [quoted text clipped - 44 lines] > >>> >> rename > >>> >> files in the NEW FOLDER that I create. Any Ideas? Thanks. Andre Da Costa [Extended64] - 03 Jun 2006 05:27 GMT Tony, you are good, thank you. :)
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> Tony, > [quoted text clipped - 81 lines] >> >>> >> rename >> >>> >> files in the NEW FOLDER that I create. Any Ideas? Thanks. Tony Sperling - 03 Jun 2006 09:27 GMT You are too kind, Andre.
Actually, driving a taxi for twenty-five years, and having all kinds of people (practically sitting in your lap) in close contact, develops a sense for listening to what they are saying. Unfortunately, that doesn't mean they allways say what you are hearing.
Tony. . .
> Tony, you are good, thank you. :) >> Tony, [quoted text clipped - 85 lines] >>> >>> >> rename >>> >>> >> files in the NEW FOLDER that I create. Any Ideas? Thanks. Tony Sperling - 03 Jun 2006 09:18 GMT O.K. - having established this much, I must confess, I am not running Vista myself, I am a visitor from the neighboring 64bit group - and I am also not a network wizard by any means.
My preferred action and tactics towards making changes when having problems and you really don't know what is going on is to remove what seems to be the most likely problem and do a cold-boot. That is, turn the machine off and start it again after a few seconds. Then keep it running for a while, try to see if things are getting better or worse - if it seems to be largely alright, then re-boot in normal fashion from this state and only then you can start setting things back up again.
Many experts are saying that this is unnecessarily cumbersome, but it is my experience that by re-booting from a clean state the whole system will be more likely to accept the changes you are going to make, and much more likely to recover if anything goes wrong again.
So, I think it best if I make room for the real 'answer guys' - in the mean time I suggest you could indeed delete that account but you might want to create some other account first and then do the 'cold-boot, re-boot' shuffle, and then create the account you was originally thinking of, but note - the networking subsystem may have changed between XP and Vista (as it did between 2K and XP) so read up on the things you need to do.
With the risk of offending you, I have to ask about that upgrade from XP - did you remove XP and install Vista clean? Or is XP still sitting there and Vista on a separate partition or, (shudder) did you install Vista on top of the XP installation? I think it is likely that you messed something up in the installation, I would consider making a 'system restore' or 'repair install' or backing up your data and wipe the disk and install it clean from scratch.
Anyone else???
Tony. . .
> Tony, > [quoted text clipped - 81 lines] >> >>> >> rename >> >>> >> files in the NEW FOLDER that I create. Any Ideas? Thanks. mizur - 04 Jun 2006 01:18 GMT I have the exact same problem, i updated from xp sp2 and also can't rename any folders, even new ones, please any help would be great!
> O.K. - having established this much, I must confess, I am not running Vista > myself, I am a visitor from the neighboring 64bit group - and I am also not [quoted text clipped - 117 lines] > >> >>> >> rename > >> >>> >> files in the NEW FOLDER that I create. Any Ideas? Thanks. Tony Sperling - 04 Jun 2006 06:29 GMT Same burning question - how did you perform the installation/upgrade? What is on your HD today and how is it organized?
Tony. . .
mizur - 05 Jun 2006 01:35 GMT I don't think it's a configuration problem...
I have checked permissions and all, even connected another hard drive from another computer and even in this new hard drive I was unable to change names...
It's a problem in the update system...
Thanks Tony, but maybe you should let someone that has already solved this issue, or at least has some idea of what is happening answer, it's obvious besides your great intention, you don't have a clue of what the problem is we are talking about...
> Same burning question - how did you perform the installation/upgrade? What > is on your HD today and how is it organized? > > Tony. . . wyatt - 05 Jun 2006 03:34 GMT I sent upgrade bug to Microsoft and they said that they couldn't reproduce the problem and closed the ticket. I have since blown away my c drive and installed fresh with no problems.
> I don't think it's a configuration problem... > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > > > Tony. . . Tony Sperling - 05 Jun 2006 10:21 GMT There you go! Good work!
Tony. . .
>I sent upgrade bug to Microsoft and they said that they couldn't reproduce > the problem and closed the ticket. I have since blown away my c drive and [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] >> > >> > Tony. . . Tony Sperling - 05 Jun 2006 10:19 GMT Well, that is - more or less - what I have been saying all along, I have not heard of this before, and it seems that neither has a lot of others, and unilaterally making room is no good for you if no-one wants to occupy the space - the space is always open to anyone. But you'd like your problem solved and discussing the matter is often more helpfull to yourself than it is to others.
Personally, I think that something has gone wrong with your installation, so I wanted you to inform us of how the OS was installed. You would be only one out of hundreds (if not thousands) that thought they could upgrade their existing installation with a new version (even a Beta version) and install it on top of the existing installation. It seems, curiously, that some can make it work, but not without severe and hard to troubleshoot problems. It would be fine to dual-boot a Beta system with something else, such that you had access to functions in the one system that didn't work quite right in the other. But upgrade? Never!!!
Ultimately, that is how many here come to answer questions - when we see others doing the same errors we did ourselves at some time. But random and spurious errors is the worst thing to troubleshoot, since it can be almost anything out of a million different things in combination, so information will be needed.
You are welcome to enlighten us, and I hope your problem is solved - it may turn out to be quite trivial too.
Tony. . .
>I don't think it's a configuration problem... > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] >> >> Tony. . . DanW - 15 Jun 2006 14:17 GMT I also upgraded from XP SP2 to Vista and now have the same problem. It's driving me nuts. There should no reason why we cannot upgrade.
> I have the exact same problem, i updated from xp sp2 and also can't rename > any folders, even new ones, please any help would be great! [quoted text clipped - 120 lines] > > >> >>> >> rename > > >> >>> >> files in the NEW FOLDER that I create. Any Ideas? Thanks. DanW - 15 Jun 2006 14:18 GMT I too did an upgrade from XP sp2 to Vista Beta and have the very same problem. It is driving me NUTS!
> I have the exact same problem, i updated from xp sp2 and also can't rename > any folders, even new ones, please any help would be great! [quoted text clipped - 120 lines] > > >> >>> >> rename > > >> >>> >> files in the NEW FOLDER that I create. Any Ideas? Thanks. Stephen Minnich - 17 Jun 2006 03:23 GMT I have the ame problem-same situation. It is extremely annoying.
> I too did an upgrade from XP sp2 to Vista Beta and have the very same > problem. It is driving me NUTS! [quoted text clipped - 123 lines] > > > >> >>> >> rename > > > >> >>> >> files in the NEW FOLDER that I create. Any Ideas? Thanks. Stephen Minnich - 17 Jun 2006 03:21 GMT I too have the exact same problem. I also updated from XP Pro SP2. When I installed, instead of a fresh install, I chose to upgrade to keep my files and programs in place. Any help would be most appreciated!
> I have the exact same problem, i updated from xp sp2 and also can't rename > any folders, even new ones, please any help would be great! [quoted text clipped - 120 lines] > > >> >>> >> rename > > >> >>> >> files in the NEW FOLDER that I create. Any Ideas? Thanks. Ghostrider - 12 Jun 2006 07:22 GMT I have the same issue.
Situation: - Upgraded from XP SP2 (Vista Beta 2 on same partition) - Logged in with an account from the old XP SP2 installation with administrator privileges - Can't rename folders, regardless of where they are located. - Can rename files - All accounts are local accounts
Workaround - Created a new user account with adminstrator privileges - Can rename folders & files
Issue seems to be in the upgrade of XP SP2 user account to Vista Beta 2... thoughts?
Tony Sperling - 12 Jun 2006 14:11 GMT The thoughts are: Do not upgrade a working system with a Beta! Instead, do a clean parallel install and dual-boot! Or go with the pro's and install a Virtual Machine.
Tony. . .
>I have the same issue. > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > Issue seems to be in the upgrade of XP SP2 user account to Vista Beta 2... > thoughts? Colin Barnhorst - 12 Jun 2006 14:26 GMT While what you say is true, Beta 2 is not performing well in VPC or VS yet. What is required is revised Virtual Machine Additions. They should be available shortly but for now Beta 2 in a vm is not very good.
> The thoughts are: Do not upgrade a working system with a Beta! Instead, do > a clean parallel install and dual-boot! Or go with the pro's and install a [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] >> 2... >> thoughts? Tony Sperling - 12 Jun 2006 14:49 GMT Yea, sorry, I am not surprised - I really meant it as general advice to what would be reasonable to subject your machine to. Of course, the specific circumstances needs to be investigated in every case.
Thank you, Colin.
Tony. . .
> While what you say is true, Beta 2 is not performing well in VPC or VS > yet. What is required is revised Virtual Machine Additions. They should [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] >>> 2... >>> thoughts? Ghostrider - 13 Jun 2006 11:24 GMT I found a 'better' workaround that allows you to keep most of your user settings. It seems there's something in the registry under HKEY_CURRENT_USER that's causing the issue... (couldn't be bothered working out which exact key(s))
By the way, it seems that this error didn't occur for a limited-access user account that was ported over to Vista beta 2.
Workaround: 1. Transfer the user settings to a folder/removable drive using Windows Easy Transfer. (first part of the transfer) 2. Complete the transfer by restoring the user settings that were saved into a new account using Windows Easy Transfer. (This creates a new admin-level account with most of the user settings intact). 3. Login to the new created account. Use regedit to export the entire HKEY_CURRENT_USER to a file. Logout. 4. Log back into the problematic user account. Use regedit to import the registry settings that were exported in the previous step.
Things seemed to work just fine after that. It may be possible to narrow down the problematic registry key(s) - but, it's mostly working now, so meh...
> I have the same issue. > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > Issue seems to be in the upgrade of XP SP2 user account to Vista Beta 2... > thoughts? Master Yoda - 20 Jun 2006 02:36 GMT Wow Rider thanks for the tip but I can tell you that this awfully cumbersome to fix an issue that it seems to appear only when you chose to upgrade the XP SP2 to Vista. I am also facing the same issue (which is also driving me nuts yada yada) and Microsoft should be able to fix this thing quickly. All I want to avoid is to do a frigging clean install THIS would drive me really nuts.
So...any suggestions out there?
> I found a 'better' workaround that allows you to keep most of your user > settings. It seems there's something in the registry under HKEY_CURRENT_USER [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] > > Issue seems to be in the upgrade of XP SP2 user account to Vista Beta 2... > > thoughts? magonicola - 31 Aug 2007 22:59 GMT S O L U T I O N :
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