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Can I force installation of a daily planner?

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nospaam - 06 Aug 2007 18:58 GMT
I have been using Delrina Daily Planner for (Don't laugh) fifteen years
on seven different computers. It has worked with pre '95 Windows, Win 98
and even XP. I have not been able to install it into Vista. Is there any
way to workaround or force the install? I dread the idea of having to
hand copy all of the info to another program. The recurring
events/reminders and contact info are enormous. Planner files have the
extension '.DP'. Would greatly appreciate any advice. Thanks.

Paul
Cal Bear '66 - 06 Aug 2007 19:26 GMT
You could try to install in Compatibility mode.  Right click on the installation
file, Properties, Compatibility tab, and selecting from the drop down list.  In
addition, you could also right click on the installation file and select "Run as
Administrator".

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>I have been using Delrina Daily Planner for (Don't laugh) fifteen years on
>seven different computers. It has worked with pre '95 Windows, Win 98 and even
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> Paul
nospaam - 06 Aug 2007 22:56 GMT
Thanks for the reply, Bear.

Since the new laptop with Vista does not have an A: drive, I had to copy
all the install files to the laptop thru the LAN from my desktop. I
copied them into C:\Planner Setup. I'm trying to install into
C:\Planner. I'm installing as Admin and have tried in both '95 and'98
compatibility. In each case, during the install, I get the Install
Message "Could not open the file named 'C:\Disk1\Planner.ex_'". Disk1???
Where the heck does that come from? There's no Disk1 in the path. All of
the install files are in the C:\Planner Setup folder, and there are no
sub-folders. I have also tried installing form the Public folder. This
is very curious. Any more ideas? Thanks.

Paul
Cal Bear '66 - 06 Aug 2007 23:16 GMT
The C:\ root directory is a rather strongly protected area with Vista.

Perhaps you would have better luck by copying the install files to a CD or
another drive, if available,  and then installing to a folder under C:\Program
Files

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> Thanks for the reply, Bear.
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> Paul
nospaam - 06 Aug 2007 23:43 GMT
I see the point about the root directory. I only went there because I
couldn't install to Program Files without getting the Disk1 problem.
I'll try a CD instead of the file transfer. Good idea!
John Barnes - 06 Aug 2007 23:37 GMT
Check the files in your Planner.setup.  If there is a planner.ex_ in the
files you need to have your setup files in a folder named Disk1, not Planner
setup

> Thanks for the reply, Bear.
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> Paul
nospaam - 07 Aug 2007 13:10 GMT
Hooray! The Disk1 folder worked. I couldn't get the program installed in
the Program Files folder though. I had to install it on C:\. I'm not too
happy about that. Thanks to Andrew, John and Bear for your input.

Paul
John Barnes - 07 Aug 2007 15:22 GMT
Glad it worked.  You obviously have an older hard coded program.

> Hooray! The Disk1 folder worked. I couldn't get the program installed in
> the Program Files folder though. I had to install it on C:\. I'm not too
> happy about that. Thanks to Andrew, John and Bear for your input.
>
> Paul
John Barnes - 07 Aug 2007 15:28 GMT
Also, an older program like that may not create any registry entries, so you
can try physically moving it to Program Files an making a shortcut from
there for your start menu if it runs from there.  Make sure you move the
entire folder there.

> Hooray! The Disk1 folder worked. I couldn't get the program installed in
> the Program Files folder though. I had to install it on C:\. I'm not too
> happy about that. Thanks to Andrew, John and Bear for your input.
>
> Paul
nospaam - 08 Aug 2007 00:10 GMT
Another good idea. That worked too. It IS and old program.

Paul
John Barnes - 08 Aug 2007 04:31 GMT
Glad everything has worked out.  An old program is one I wrote in the
1960's.  :-)

> Another good idea. That worked too. It IS and old program.
>
> Paul
Andrew McLaren - 07 Aug 2007 00:01 GMT
> Since the new laptop with Vista does not have an A: drive, I had to copy
> all the install files to the laptop thru the LAN from my desktop. I copied
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> tried installing form the Public folder. This is very curious. Any more
> ideas? Thanks.

Hi Paul,

The 16-bit Setup.inf scripts often groups files accoridng to diskette, on
the assumption that software will always be installed from floppy (not a bad
assumption in 1994). The problem is probably not so much that you're
installing on Vista, as that you're installing on a machine which has no
floppy drive.

If you have the original Delrina Daily Planner floppies, create a directory
structure like this:

   C:\
   +----C:\DDPInst
           +----Disk1
           +----Disk2
           +----Disk3
           +--- etc

Copy the contents of floppy disk 1 into C:\DDPInst\Disk1, floppy disk 2 into
C:\DDPInst\Disk2, and so on.

If you don't have the floppy disks, just install the entire set of
installation files into each directory. Setup will just ignore the files it
doesn't want.

The run Setup from the C:\DDPInst\Disk1 subdirectory.

I'd recommend against using "C:\Planner Setup" as the name for the
installation directory - it's not causing the specific problem you're
seeing, but many older applications get easily confused by pathnames which
contain spaces. You might save yourself a further headache by starting with
the simplest, 8.3 naming conventions.

There will probably be a file with a name like setup.ini or setup.inf in the
installation files - this is the file which tells setup where to look for
each file it needs to install. It'll be a plain text file which you can open
in Notepad. I don't recommend you try to hack it at all; those early setup
files were very fragile constructions ... but reading it, may give you a
better understanding of how the Daily Planner setup is working.

I never used Delrina Daily Planner but I did install their WinFax Pro
product, back in the 1990s. I remember the company well.

Hope this helps, good luck with it!
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TommyD69 - 08 Dec 2007 17:16 GMT
Paul, I too use the Delrina Daily Planner.  You are the first person I
have found that still has the install disks.  My version has stopped
working (partially) and I have lost my disks.  Like you, I have a huge
amount of information that I can't/won't move to another planner program
(as I don't think any new programs are as good as the Delrina Daily
Planner).  Please contact me, as I would love to get copies of this
ancient program.   Thanx in advance!!!!!     Tom    ;)

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David Bowling - 16 May 2008 14:56 GMT
Paul,

I have also used Delrina Daily Planner for years on different systems.  I just bought a new computer with Vista and transfered the Delrina files to it.  As in previous transfers, several DLLs (Amaze.dll, etc) don't transfer and had to been transfered to the Delrina file manually.  You will find out which dlls these are when you try to open Delrina.  Mine now works just like before, but lost the Delrina icon in the suffle.  Good luck and let me know if you are sucessful.

David
Gordon - 16 May 2008 15:12 GMT
> Paul,
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> David

Who is Paul and what problem are you supplying the solution to?

This is not a chat room and actually this is NOT a "web forum" either, this
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Please adhere to usenet custom, quote the post you are replying to, and
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