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Everywhere I go... people who have vista say it sucks! lol I even try to defend vista.. try to explain that they are making a service pack that will fix problems.. they don't want to hear it! Vista sucks its slow and horrible... that's what they say... I installed dreamscene on one guys machine since he had ultimate... he said what is this? Why would I like a movie on my desktop??? lol I want to work fast without problems! Fortunately that particular person has a dual boot system with XP. And guess what OS he uses? XP! He boots to vista from time to time just so he can say that he didnt waste all that money for nothing.... He told me.. "it was a bad buy.... vista isnt worth it." I remained silent so I would not hurt his feelings by confirming this reality. > Everywhere I go... people who have vista say it sucks! lol <snip> > I installed dreamscene on one guys machine since he had ultimate... > > he said what is this? Why would I like a movie on my desktop??? lol <snip> that's easy - MS caters to the Vista fanboys who are so easily impressed with the eye candy, that's why MS concentrates on these things instead of a stable workable OS. > Everywhere I go... people who have vista say it sucks! lol <snip> Go someplace else then. > I remained silent so I would not hurt his feelings by confirming this > reality. It's be nice if you'd extend that same courtesy to us. Tom Dacon Dacon Software Consulting "Tom Dacon" <tdacon@community.nospam> wrote in news:uovwxffBIHA.1208 @TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl: >> I remained silent so I would not hurt his feelings by confirming this >> reality. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Tom Dacon > Dacon Software Consulting So don't read post from Tiber-deJure (sp.) To use Franks point, you are wating bandwidth replying. so you follow your leader frank! lol OH MY GOD its worse than I thought.. I was calling them dumb to tease them.. but it seems they really are dumb! > "Tom Dacon" <tdacon@community.nospam> wrote in news:uovwxffBIHA.1208 > @TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl: [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > To use Franks point, you are wating bandwidth replying. I guess you people don't recognize sarcasm. Tom Dacon Dacon Software Consulting > so you follow your leader frank! lol > [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] >> >> To use Franks point, you are wating bandwidth replying. > I guess you people don't recognize sarcasm. I can recognize sarcasm as well as you can write it. >> I guess you people don't recognize sarcasm. > > I can recognize sarcasm as well as you can write it. Thank you. "Tom Dacon" <tdacon@community.nospam> wrote in news:evg3xZjBIHA.4584 @TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl: >>> I guess you people don't recognize sarcasm. >> >> I can recognize sarcasm as well as you can write it. > > Thank you. Your welcome. Been looking into those English classes yet?  Signature"...I fail to understand why they feel the need to convince people who are happy with Vista that they are wrong. That is aside from the self-esteem issues they must have ;-)" —Mark R. Cusumano > "Tom Dacon" <tdacon@community.nospam> wrote in news:evg3xZjBIHA.4584 > @TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl: [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Your welcome. Have you seen this one ? http://news.softpedia.com/news/Over-33-of-Users-Unsatisfied-with-Windows- Vista-66725.shtml > so you follow your leader frank! lol HA HA HA HA HA HA HA !!!!!!! Everyone knows Frank is a follower. (I'm _highly_ insulted.) > OH MY GOD its worse than I thought.. > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] >> >> To use Franks point, you are wating bandwidth replying. > Everywhere I go... people who have vista say it sucks! lol Maybe you should go more places and complain less > I even try to defend vista.. try to explain that they are making a service > pack that > will fix problems.. Microsoft will love you when you defend Vista. You wouldn't even know what to defend. > they don't want to hear it! Vista sucks its slow and horrible... > > that's what they say... And you know this by interviewing everybody? I guess with no job, you have the time. > I installed dreamscene on one guys machine since he had ultimate... > > he said what is this? Why would I like a movie on my desktop??? lol So you watch PORN on your desktop. BFD. > I want to work fast without problems! You can work fast at Jack-In-The-Box. They have openings for counter help. > Fortunately that particular person has a dual boot system with XP. > > And guess what OS he uses? XP! He boots to vista from time to time just so > he can say that he didnt waste all that money for nothing.... > > He told me.. "it was a bad buy.... vista isnt worth it." Maybe you can sell your copy to get money for the bus. > I remained silent so I would not hurt his feelings by confirming this > reality. You can start NOW. > Everywhere I go... people who have vista say it sucks! lol Since you never leave your mother's house, the above statement doesn't carry a lot of weight. >> Everywhere I go... people who have vista say it sucks! lol > >Since you never leave your mother's house, the above statement doesn't carry >a lot of weight. Let me guess... you saw the moron Frank make a couple smartass references to somebody living in the basement of their mother's house and you being a total idiot thought Frank was being clever. Damn, you fanboys have a combined IQ that's below 100. Hint: That's called retardation! isn't franks full name frank retardo? if frank is these guys role model, do you think that it would be possible for someone to top frank in stupidity? You know, the apprentice to surpass the master? nahhhhhh... :-) >>> Everywhere I go... people who have vista say it sucks! lol >> [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > fanboys have a combined IQ that's below 100. Hint: That's called > retardation! >>> Everywhere I go... people who have vista say it sucks! lol >> [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > fanboys have a combined IQ that's below 100. Hint: That's called > retardation! Oh no its the FRANK argument run for you lives! >>> Everywhere I go... people who have vista say it sucks! lol >> [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > fanboys have a combined IQ that's below 100. Hint: That's called > retardation! You mean you are grouping me? Then I group you with Aliass, Tiberculosis, wheelboy. That's a hell of a inbred clan there. Combined, the 4 of you may be able to order a pizza...tho I doubt the Crybaby Clan could whip up the cash. If you guys get together, maybe a computer tech could show you how to install Vista. Since it gives you idiots so much trouble. You guys couldn't get a DVD to play properly. Guess that's the OS's fault too ! >>>> Everywhere I go... people who have vista say it sucks! lol >>> [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > >You mean you are grouping me? No, Darwin already did and explains it rather nicely in his Theory of Evolution and Natural Selection. You see you and Frank and some other lunkhead fanboys hundreds of thousands of years ago probably descended from some really fu*ked-up monkeys. That would account for you and others loving bananas and always throwing feces around and screaming and yelling a lot. It's called a regressive gene. So while the human race has advanced rather nicely with offspring being able to stand upright, talk and already be toilet trained by age two or so at the latest, idiots like you still grunt, fart in public, fail to wash your hands after going to the bathroom and of course you regression is most noticeable in how you conduct yourself here. God, please tell me to don't act as nuts and as uncivilized elsewhere in your life and that you have been sterilized! Please don't breed! >>>>> Everywhere I go... people who have vista say it sucks! lol >>>> [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > please tell me to don't act as nuts and as uncivilized elsewhere in > your life and that you have been sterilized! Please don't breed! I wash my hands ! And I am computer savvy enough to get Vista to run. So are millions of other users. You are not. Really, if Vista is so hard for you to get running, the Geek Squad will come out and gladly install/configure it for you. And at your advanced stage of life, you should be preparing for your future. Turn off all the lights, lay flat on your back in a box, and hold your breath. Seven Adam and one or two others come here solely to antagonize. If you put them in a killfile (create a message rule), you will have a much better experience here.. >>>>>> Everywhere I go... people who have vista say it sucks! lol >>>>> [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] > Turn off all the lights, lay flat on your back in a box, and hold your > breath. Listen to Seven! He preaches the truth about Vista! Signature"...I fail to understand why they feel the need to convince people who are happy with Vista that they are wrong. That is aside from the self-esteem issues they must have ;-)" —Mark R. Cusumano > >>> Everywhere I go... people who have vista say it sucks! lol > >> [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > You guys couldn't get a DVD to play properly. > Guess that's the OS's fault too ! >Listen to Seven! He preaches the truth about Vista! The truth about Vista is it sucks. The more you use it, the more obvious that becomes. Only dullards, hopeless Microsoft butt kissers and just plain fools think Vista is wonderful. A prime example of the type of people that think you can't do better than Vista is Frank, the newsgroup moron and official buffoon in residence. What does that suggest? Nope. You are overly-opinionated. We use Vista because IT WORKS for us. You can't seem to comprehend that, can you? Read my siggy: Signature"...I fail to understand why they feel the need to convince people who are happy with Vista that they are wrong. That is aside from the self-esteem issues they must have ;-)" —Mark R. Cusumano > >Listen to Seven! He preaches the truth about Vista! > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > What does that suggest? >Nope. You are overly-opinionated. We use Vista because IT WORKS for us. It doesn't work well for others. Your point? >You can't seem to comprehend that, can you? Obviously you can't comprehend your experience isn't shared by many. Accordingly you come across as a simpleton since you have an overly simplistic view of the world. I have discovered that those not experiencing problems with Windows regardless of version limit their use of their computers to simplistic tasks. Accordingly they rarely experience issues. Those that use their computers more intensively logically will get exposed to more failing embedded within Windows in a vain similar to a surgeon that limits his practice to simple out patient surgery won't encounter life threating complications as often as surgeons that perform difficult brain or open heart surgery will. It all boils down to HOW you use Windows. If you're a light weight user, Vista scrapes by. If you're a serious user, lots of luck. Your, odds of running into all kinds of issues increases markedly the harder you push Windows, more so if you frequently multitask. This is one issue shared by all versions of Windows, Vista included. Under load, Windows tends to crash and do weird things more often. I dont know why you even posted that. No one cares if you think vista sucks. Its great for me. Go post somewhere else thats not in Microsoft communites. >>Nope. You are overly-opinionated. We use Vista because IT WORKS for us. > [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > issue shared by all versions of Windows, Vista included. Under load, > Windows tends to crash and do weird things more often. >I dont know why you even posted that. No one cares if you think vista sucks. >Its great for me. Go post somewhere else thats not in Microsoft communites. Then you confirm you're just a light weight that's not in the least concerned about anything beyond you own little world. Pathetic and you're a top posting fool besides. In other words, a typical Microsoft butt kisser. This newsgroup is infested with them. > I dont know why you even posted that. No one cares if you think vista > sucks. Its great for me. Go post somewhere else thats not in Microsoft > communites. Um, "Microsoft communities" don't exist, sorry. You're posting to Usenet which is a tad bigger than MS' Usenet servers. I know your Windows Fail newsreader says "Microsoft communities" but that's a misnomer, a LIE. Alias >>> Nope. You are overly-opinionated. We use Vista because IT WORKS for >>> us. [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] >> issue shared by all versions of Windows, Vista included. Under load, >> Windows tends to crash and do weird things more often. > Nope. You are overly-opinionated. We use Vista because IT WORKS for us. > You can't seem to comprehend that, can you? Read my siggy: I know people that had 73 Chevettes that ran for 200K miles, but that didn't make the other 2 million of them run that far... and it certainly didn't make it a good vehicle. But some people liked them! SignatureA Professional Amateur...If anyone knew it all, none of would be here! CarGodZeroOne@hotmail.com Change Alpha to Numeric to reply >>> Everywhere I go... people who have vista say it sucks! lol >> [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > fanboys have a combined IQ that's below 100. Hint: That's called > retardation! You sure are sweet on Frank. Quacker's, Tibery does live with his Mommy. Goofballs never leave their mommies. That's why they are angry at an OS. Your excuse is old age and poverty. watch it.. you where number 7 now you are number 6 and climbing.. more stupid remarks for you you may climb to number 2 of the dumbwit top charts. Why not number one? its impossible to top frank in stupidity... sorry >> Everywhere I go... people who have vista say it sucks! lol > > Since you never leave your mother's house, the above statement doesn't > carry a lot of weight. So you are handing out numbers are you? You must have one powerful computer to generate them. Must be using Ubuntu for your tasks. You are the IDIOT here. Just FYI. > watch it.. > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >> Since you never leave your mother's house, the above statement doesn't >> carry a lot of weight. you see all these post on here day after day..nothing but problems with this defective windows vista.so many need help.but what pisses me off is,a few jerks will jump in the post,defending vista.like they work for microsoft and have stock..its like some one trying to sell you a mirror with a crack in it,and they are telling you there is not a crack..youre just seeing things,,why doesant these people leave our post alone > > Everywhere I go... people who have vista say it sucks! lol > > Since you never leave your mother's house, the above statement doesn't carry > a lot of weight. if you think its bad now, you should have seen a few months ago before the news was starting to come out about how horrible vista is. I was here alone telling everyone that vista has problems and will make many people miserable... Almost every prediction and observation I have said has been verified again and again by users who state the very problems I was talking about and a multitude of articles all over the internet are saying things I said even before vista was released as RTM. a year ago!. all they did was make fun of me and call me a troll... now they are seeing the rest of the world say the same things.. yet they still persistently defend vista... that is why they are called vista or vista fan boys.. they just don't want to admit it. they will never stop... even if bill gates comes out to say.." Im sorry we let down the world by making this horrible product." > you see all these post on here day after day..nothing but problems with > this [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >> carry >> a lot of weight. > if you think its bad now, you should have seen a few months ago before the > news was starting to come out about how horrible vista is. > I was here alone telling everyone that vista has problems and will make > many people miserable... You were here alone telling everyone..... I think you need to increase your dosage of medication. You can still type. > Almost every prediction and observation I have said has been verified > again and again by users who state the very problems I was talking about > and a multitude of articles all over the internet are saying things I said > even before vista was released as RTM. a year ago!. Wow, why haven't your purchased lottery tickets? You know all - See all. Microsoft should offer you a job. Just think, you could be sweeping floors, emptying trash, putting new toilet paper on the rolls in the bathroom. > all they did was make fun of me and call me a troll... We are not making fun of you. You are a troll. NAW. Come to think of it, we are making fun of you. > now they are seeing the rest of the world say the same things.. > > yet they still persistently defend vista... Not everyone defends Vista. > that is why they are called vista or vista fan boys.. they just don't want > to admit it. You are not up to being called a boy. A child maybe. When > you grow up, you just might become a boy. > > they will never stop... even if bill gates comes out to say.." Im sorry we > let down the world by making this horrible product." What happed to your Tonka toys and your Legos? Mama took them away? >> you see all these post on here day after day..nothing but problems with >> this [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >>> carry >>> a lot of weight. I have placed all your various servers in the trash bin.. I know who you are. you can go on throwing trash but you dont even know how many of "me" there are that you are talking to without insulting.... Perplexed? Good. >I have placed all your various servers in the trash bin.. Good boy. > I know who you are. Good boy. > you can go on throwing trash but you dont even know how many of "me" > there are that you are talking to without insulting.... There are too many of you. > Perplexed? Good. Entertainment - Yes. Perplexed - No. Just FYI. How is that possible? Do you own Bill's website's server(s)? If so, don't those cost money? Sometimes, even, A LOT of money? Couldn't you just delete his website and sell the space to someone else? And BTW, how can multiple servers fit in one trash bin? Maybe <i>one</i> could fit into a garbage CAN, but a trash bin would definately be too small. So, in conclusion, don't be a server waster. Signature"...I fail to understand why they feel the need to convince people who are happy with Vista that they are wrong. That is aside from the self-esteem issues they must have ;-)" —Mark R. Cusumano > I have placed all your various servers in the trash bin.. > I know who you are. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Perplexed? Good. I have had a good experience with Vista so far. The blue screens upon startup...meh. They'll get fixed eventually. Not necessarily MS's fault. There, I was honest. Hooray. Besides, you're not supposed to tell people that the pre-RTM beta sucks. Of course it does! It's unfinished! Signature"...I fail to understand why they feel the need to convince people who are happy with Vista that they are wrong. That is aside from the self-esteem issues they must have ;-)" —Mark R. Cusumano > if you think its bad now, you should have seen a few months ago before the > news was starting to come out about how horrible vista is. [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > >> carry > >> a lot of weight. I find it interesting that anyone who finds fault with Vista is right and anyone who has had a reasonable experience with it is wrong or a fanboy. I though most people post here to get help or to give help. BTW, there are still posts from people asking for help on XP, 98, Linux and Mac forums after all this time. SignaturePaul > you see all these post on here day after day..nothing but problems with this > defective windows vista.so many need help.but what pisses me off is,a few [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Since you never leave your mother's house, the above statement doesn't carry > > a lot of weight. >I find it interesting that anyone who finds fault with Vista is right and >anyone who has had a reasonable experience with it is wrong or a fanboy. I surely never suggested that. I simply point out fanboys are zealots and try to suppress the FACT that Vista has bugs, problems, issues, whatever you want to call it. I've said that from the beginning and documented many and offered fixes for some. I haven't changed my story at all... fanboys have. Constantly. Starting back in February pretending Vista was fault free, never actually saying it in so many words but implying as much. Then they morphed into if there's a problem it is the user's fault to now where they sheepishly admit Vista has problems alright but of course they've never had any themselves, wink, wink. >I though most people post here to get help or to give help. I do. I also kick the fanboy crowd is their butts when it is obvious they are spreading lies or acting like little children ranting and raving. Two things they do constantly. >BTW, there are still posts from people asking for help on XP, 98, Linux and >Mac forums after all this time. Which only confirms the truth is Vista is has bugs and problems too. I never suggested any other version of Windows or another OS didn't. Again, that would be the fanboy crowd that spreads whoppers and deliberately lie and act up all the time. Why, you'd have to ask them. Start with Frank. The biggest faker, liar and hot head of the bunch. > you see all these post on here day after day..nothing but problems > with this defective windows vista.so many need help.but what pisses [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > a crack..youre just seeing things,,why doesant these people leave our > post alone I counted 'em. 187 people have reported some difficulty with Vista since 1 September. Out of 55 million installations, that ain't bad. More people than that have trouble with a spoon. >> you see all these post on here day after day..nothing but problems >> with this defective windows vista.so many need help.but what pisses [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > >More people than that have trouble with a spoon. You kidding? Not even Microsoft knows how many people are having difficulty. If you based your rosy outlook on just posts to this newsgroup that's crazy. Besides there is no where near 55 million installations where did you get such an inflated number? >>> you see all these post on here day after day..nothing but problems >>> with this defective windows vista.so many need help.but what pisses [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > newsgroup that's crazy. Besides there is no where near 55 million > installations where did you get such an inflated number? I think he pulled it out of his a.s! >> you see all these post on here day after day..nothing but problems >> with this defective windows vista.so many need help.but what pisses [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > More people than that have trouble with a spoon. http://news.softpedia.com/news/Over-33-of-Users-Unsatisfied-with-Windows- Vista-66725.shtml > you see all these post on here day after day..nothing but problems with > this [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >> carry >> a lot of weight. OK, idiot. Where, oh where did I defend Vista? The OP made up some "facts", or "observations", or "tidbits of wisdom". He stated his opinion, I stated mine. What is with this "our" post? That's the second time I've seen that. Are you part of some group purposefully filling this newsgroup with anti-Vista rants ? >> you see all these post on here day after day..nothing but problems with >> this [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] >Are you part of some group purposefully filling this newsgroup with >anti-Vista rants ? Delusional now besides being stupid? If you are having a problem with Windows Vista, you need to clearly define and state specifically what the problem is in order for someone to offer any intelligent troubleshooting advice. Read the following before posting: How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375 SignatureCarey Frisch Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User --------------------------------------------------------------- you see all these post on here day after day..nothing but problems with this defective windows vista.so many need help.but what pisses me off is,a few jerks will jump in the post,defending vista.like they work for microsoft and have stock..its like some one trying to sell you a mirror with a crack in it,and they are telling you there is not a crack..youre just seeing things,,why doesant these people leave our post alone "seven" wrote: > > Everywhere I go... people who have vista say it sucks! lol > > Since you never leave your mother's house, the above statement doesn't carry > a lot of weight. > If you are having a problem with Windows Vista, you need to > clearly define and state specifically what the problem is in order [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > Since you never leave your mother's house, the above statement doesn't carry > > a lot of weight. > If you are having a problem with Windows Vista, you need to > clearly define and state specifically what the problem is in order [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > a lot of weight. > > Hi /my biggest complaint about Vista is this-Its not technical.. The operating system is no fun-Its repugnant-It takes all the enjoyment out of using a computer.Since Microsoft is intent on shoving it down our throats, I am simply going to install XP in this new computer and go on my merry way.then i wont have to use windows defender(dont catch nothing) media player 10 which I love and window picture viewer(all optional on XP) and last but not least Microsoft Fax and Picture viewer that XP has and Vista dont.. Its just a disgusting miserable computing experience. It works alright-It just works lousy-- Ford Made The Edsel-Microsoft Made Vista Just do like me if you dont like it--Get rid of it I have to give Microsoft credit for putting up these posts-Maybe they want to know how bad it really is..( they do) Have a nice XP day there is another picture viewer on vista that does the same thing as the fax and picture viewer in XP... whats the difference??? >> If you are having a problem with Windows Vista, you need to >> clearly define and state specifically what the problem is in order [quoted text clipped - 38 lines] > to know how bad it really is..( they do) > Have a nice XP day >> If you are having a problem with Windows Vista, you need to >> clearly define and state specifically what the problem is in order [quoted text clipped - 38 lines] > to know how bad it really is..( they do) > Have a nice XP day Windows Defender found Peergardions, malware (trojans and virus's) that others did not pick up. BTW defender and IE7 and Windows Media Player 11 also work on XP. You're statements are utterly false. Signature"...I fail to understand why they feel the need to convince people who are happy with Vista that they are wrong. That is aside from the self-esteem issues they must have ;-)" —Mark R. Cusumano > >> If you are having a problem with Windows Vista, you need to > >> clearly define and state specifically what the problem is in order [quoted text clipped - 41 lines] > Windows Defender found > Peergardions [SP? LOL] > , malware (trojans and > virus's [SP?] > ) that > others did not pick up. BTW defender and IE7 and Windows Media Player 11 > also work on XP. > You're [SP?] > statements are utterly false. >> If you are having a problem with Windows Vista, you need to >> clearly define and state specifically what the problem is in order [quoted text clipped - 38 lines] > to know how bad it really is..( they do) > Have a nice XP day WMP 11 is outdated, dummy. And BTW, been looking into those English classes yet? Just FYI How is Vista NOT fun compared to XP? You get all those fancy Aero effects, second only to Beryl! Signature"...I fail to understand why they feel the need to convince people who are happy with Vista that they are wrong. That is aside from the self-esteem issues they must have ;-)" —Mark R. Cusumano > > If you are having a problem with Windows Vista, you need to > > clearly define and state specifically what the problem is in order [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > to know how bad it really is..( they do) > Have a nice XP day Been looking into those English classes yet? Signature"...I fail to understand why they feel the need to convince people who are happy with Vista that they are wrong. That is aside from the self-esteem issues they must have ;-)" —Mark R. Cusumano > you see all these post on here day after day..nothing but problems with this > defective windows vista.so many need help.but what pisses me off is,a few [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Since you never leave your mother's house, the above statement doesn't carry > > a lot of weight. Time To Reformat Your Computer And Install Open Source Linux Ubuntu 7.04 RTW Or 7.10 Official Beta, Just FYI. > Everywhere I go... people who have vista say it sucks! lol > [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > I remained silent so I would not hurt his feelings by confirming this > reality. > Time To Reformat Your Computer And Install Open Source Linux Ubuntu 7.04 > RTW Or 7.10 Official Beta, Just FYI. This is what you should do Kevin: 1) Fill Bathtub. 2) Power up your PC. 3) Get in Bathtub. 4) Grab PC. Problem Solved. Just FYI. >> Everywhere I go... people who have vista say it sucks! lol >> [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] >> I remained silent so I would not hurt his feelings by confirming this >> reality. I also happen to think Vista was a waste of money and I would not have purchased it had it not been for the fact that my college required me to upgrade to Vista in order to continue my online classes. What I don't really understand is why the people who are in support of Vista have such a problem with the people who don't like Vista. It's almost like the Vista supporters think the rest of us don't have the right to voice our displeasure about Vista. Let's face it, unless an individual has plenty of money to spend on a whole computer upgrade or purchase a high end computer system (which, I definitely do not) then Vista just sucks! But I guess some of the people who are in favor of Vista and don't want the rest of us to voice displeasure about it, do have plenty of money to make those expensive upgrades and therefore feel that there is nothing to complain about. > Everywhere I go... people who have vista say it sucks! lol > [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > I remained silent so I would not hurt his feelings by confirming this > reality. > I also happen to think Vista was a waste of money and I would not have > purchased it had it not been for the fact that my college required me to [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > about it, do have plenty of money to make those expensive upgrades and > therefore feel that there is nothing to complain about. I seriously doubt your college required you upgrade to Vista continue their online courses. It may have been a suggestion, but requirment? Not a chance. >> I also happen to think Vista was a waste of money and I would not have >> purchased it had it not been for the fact that my college required me to [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > their online courses. It may have been a suggestion, but requirment? Not > a chance. Well, maybe he went to Vista College :-) http://www.accd.edu/nvc/default.asp > I also happen to think Vista was a waste of money and I would not have > purchased it had it not been for the fact that my college required me to [quoted text clipped - 41 lines] >> I remained silent so I would not hurt his feelings by confirming this >> reality. So something sucks just because you can't afford it? SignatureMike Hall - MVP How to construct a good post.. http://dts-l.com/goodpost.htm How to use the Microsoft Product Support Newsgroups.. http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=newswhelp&style=toc Mike's Window - My Blog.. http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx >> I also happen to think Vista was a waste of money and I would not have >> purchased it had it not been for the fact that my college required me to [quoted text clipped - 43 lines] > > So something sucks just because you can't afford it? If we were talking about a Rolls, your snotty reply would make sense. But, being as the OP is *required* to have it and because of Microsoft's strong arm tactics with OEMs, MOST people will have to buy it, your post is mere snotty superciliousness, nothing else. Alias >>> I also happen to think Vista was a waste of money and I would not have >>> purchased it had it not been for the fact that my college required me to [quoted text clipped - 50 lines] > > Alias You're out of your lying linux trolling spamming bigoted mind! Frank >> Alias > > You're out of your lying linux trolling spamming bigoted mind! > Frank Frank ... it's over there -------------------------> the freeway. Now go and play there and do watch your step. Cheers. SignatureFrank's Brain Activity Plotted (watch the red line): http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i4/Astronomy2/PreformanceMonitor.jpg How a Windows Firewall protects your computer: http://tinyurl.com/2z9qdn AlexB (another Vista expert): "I ruined at least 5 or 6 installations of Vista before I realized what was going on." Contact AlexB to find out how to "delouse" your Vista system. >>>Alias >> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Cheers. Is that where you play? Oh...that's where RS wants you to play? Is he sick of you or simply didn't like the dress you wore last night? Well, try goodwill for a new dress...that's where a broke loser like you has to shop right? Frank >>> I also happen to think Vista was a waste of money and I would not have >>> purchased it had it not been for the fact that my college required me to [quoted text clipped - 50 lines] > > Alias Not snotty at all. Apparently the college require it, so what does that have to do with OEMs. Plus, the fact that one can't afford a product doesn't mean that the product sucks. SignatureMike Hall - MVP How to construct a good post.. http://dts-l.com/goodpost.htm How to use the Microsoft Product Support Newsgroups.. http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=newswhelp&style=toc Mike's Window - My Blog.. http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx >>>> I also happen to think Vista was a waste of money and I would not have >>>> purchased it had it not been for the fact that my college required me [quoted text clipped - 54 lines] > have to do with OEMs. Plus, the fact that one can't afford a product > doesn't mean that the product sucks. You're right of course. Vista sucks even if one can afford it. Affordability doesn't determine the quality of an operating system at all. Cheers. SignatureFrank's Brain Activity Plotted (watch the red line): http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i4/Astronomy2/PreformanceMonitor.jpg How a Windows Firewall protects your computer: http://tinyurl.com/2z9qdn AlexB (another Vista expert): "I ruined at least 5 or 6 installations of Vista before I realized what was going on." Contact AlexB to find out how to "delouse" your Vista system. >>>>> I also happen to think Vista was a waste of money and I would not have >>>>> purchased it had it not been for the fact that my college required me [quoted text clipped - 62 lines] > > Cheers. Vista really doesn't suck. You just don't have a clue on how to use it. Yes, it is a bit more complicated than DOS, so you just might need an instructor to help you out. Contact AlexB to find out how the "To Catch A Predator" program really works! >>>>>I also happen to think Vista was a waste of money and I would not have >>>>>purchased it had it not been for the fact that my college required me [quoted text clipped - 59 lines] > > Cheers. No you suck...at least that's what RS says...how is urbuttoo...getting a lot of use lately...it's still a REAL POS...LOL! Frank and cheers you broke loser! Im still waiting for you to tell me what RS is.... you keep using it but if you dont explain what it is, we cant laugh too... >>>>>>I also happen to think Vista was a waste of money and I would not have >>>>>>purchased it had it not been for the fact that my college required me [quoted text clipped - 68 lines] > > and cheers you broke loser! What's a POS? Pig on Steroids? Signature"...I fail to understand why they feel the need to convince people who are happy with Vista that they are wrong. That is aside from the self-esteem issues they must have ;-)" —Mark R. Cusumano > >>>>>I also happen to think Vista was a waste of money and I would not have > >>>>>purchased it had it not been for the fact that my college required me [quoted text clipped - 65 lines] > > and cheers you broke loser! >>>>> I also happen to think Vista was a waste of money and I would not have >>>>> purchased it had it not been for the fact that my college required me [quoted text clipped - 62 lines] > > Cheers. You will find changing attitudes to Vista, and you will isolate yourself if you continue to judge Vista as per when it was released.. SignatureMike Hall - MVP How to construct a good post.. http://dts-l.com/goodpost.htm How to use the Microsoft Product Support Newsgroups.. http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=newswhelp&style=toc Mike's Window - My Blog.. http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx >>>>>> I also happen to think Vista was a waste of money and I would not >>>>>> have [quoted text clipped - 69 lines] > You will find changing attitudes to Vista, and you will isolate yourself > if you continue to judge Vista as per when it was released.. That idiot NoStop has been isolated since it was three years old. Its why it thinks ubroketu is the future. It (NoStop) also believes ubroketu is better than Vista....which shows years of isolation leads to lunacy. Only a hermit would find ubroketu "cost effective". Sorry, forgive my curiosity. What is ubroketu? I just googled for it and came up with nothing. Did you just make it up, which is fine? I did have a flashing exposure to IceBuntu, I believe. Vey funny. There was a rallying cry on one of the webpages: "Who wants to develop IceBuntu, raise their hands." >>>>>>> I also happen to think Vista was a waste of money and I would not >>>>>>> have [quoted text clipped - 77 lines] > years of isolation leads to lunacy. > Only a hermit would find ubroketu "cost effective". > Sorry, forgive my curiosity. What is ubroketu? I just googled for it and > came up with nothing. Did you just make it up, which is fine? [quoted text clipped - 89 lines] >> years of isolation leads to lunacy. >> Only a hermit would find ubroketu "cost effective". ubroketu....is ubuntu ... the OS for the disenchanted ... or for the homeless. It's a sad linux attempt at a usable OS.... teenagers love it like hiphop...but soon outgrow it. >> Sorry, forgive my curiosity. What is ubroketu? I just googled for it and >> came up with nothing. Did you just make it up, which is fine? [quoted text clipped - 115 lines] > ubroketu....is ubuntu ... the OS for the disenchanted ... or for the > homeless. Actually it's the OS for those smart enough to be able to install it, explore it and clue in to its power. That excludes YOU. Cheers. SignatureFrank's Brain Activity Plotted (watch the red line): http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i4/Astronomy2/PreformanceMonitor.jpg How a Windows Firewall protects your computer: http://tinyurl.com/2z9qdn AlexB (another Vista expert): "I ruined at least 5 or 6 installations of Vista before I realized what was going on." Contact AlexB to find out how to "delouse" your Vista system. >>> Sorry, forgive my curiosity. What is ubroketu? I just googled for it and >>> came up with nothing. Did you just make it up, which is fine? [quoted text clipped - 124 lines] > > Cheers. So Vista is for the stupid ? Then the stupid (or the masses) rule ! Last time I checked, products aren't marketed based on IQ.....its usability! Its why ubuntu is used by less people than eat monkies ! Monkey meat stinks....and so does ubroketoo > So Vista is for the stupid ? > Then the stupid (or the masses) rule ! [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Monkey meat stinks....and so does ubroketoo Heh. You know, I really do not like using Linux myself. It's really not my thing. What really gets to me is total morons like you bleating on about Windows. It's so embarrassing. YOu have to be a Frank sock-puppet, hey? ss. >>So Vista is for the stupid ? >>Then the stupid (or the masses) rule ! [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > What really gets to me is total morons like you bleating on about Windows. Oh really? > It's so embarrassing. Translation: ss is so fukkin stupid that he is the one who is embarrassed at not being able to properly install and use Vista. YOu have to be a Frank sock-puppet, hey? Better than being a dickhead moron loser like you. > ss. Try getting a real name...ss = stupid sh.t...yeah we're already figured that one out! Frank >> So Vista is for the stupid ? >> Then the stupid (or the masses) rule ! [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > ss. What a moronic response. If you got nothing, than say nothing. Frank has his opinions, I have mine ... that Vista is quite good is shared by millions. Nice to see I "get to you". yes, yes > Actually it's the OS for those smart enough to be able to install it, > explore it and clue in to its power. That excludes YOU. > > Cheers. Not really. Linux's distros are for people who answer yes to these two questions: 1) is it free? 2) do you hate all things MS? If yes to both...hey...urbuttoo is for you! That urbuttoo is a worthless POS toy os is meaningless to those who answered "yes". Frank Saying this also automatically applies the same reasoning to Vista. Signature"...I fail to understand why they feel the need to convince people who are happy with Vista that they are wrong. That is aside from the self-esteem issues they must have ;-)" —Mark R. Cusumano > >> Sorry, forgive my curiosity. What is ubroketu? I just googled for it and > >> came up with nothing. Did you just make it up, which is fine? [quoted text clipped - 120 lines] > > Cheers. I grant you eternal life. Signature"...I fail to understand why they feel the need to convince people who are happy with Vista that they are wrong. That is aside from the self-esteem issues they must have ;-)" —Mark R. Cusumano > >>>>> I also happen to think Vista was a waste of money and I would not have > >>>>> purchased it had it not been for the fact that my college required me [quoted text clipped - 65 lines] > You will find changing attitudes to Vista, and you will isolate yourself if > you continue to judge Vista as per when it was released.. No, you are a mindless ogre that can't accept any opinions but its own. Read my siggy. Signature"...I fail to understand why they feel the need to convince people who are happy with Vista that they are wrong. That is aside from the self-esteem issues they must have ;-)" —Mark R. Cusumano > >>>> I also happen to think Vista was a waste of money and I would not have > >>>> purchased it had it not been for the fact that my college required me [quoted text clipped - 59 lines] > > Cheers. >>> I also happen to think Vista was a waste of money and I would not have >>> purchased it had it not been for the fact that my college required me to [quoted text clipped - 50 lines] > > Alias And your posts are a complete waste of bandwitdh. Now go peddle Ubuntu to the Poor and needy. Exactly! I HATE SOOPERYACHTS! I HATE HOUSES! I HATE etc, etc. Signature"...I fail to understand why they feel the need to convince people who are happy with Vista that they are wrong. That is aside from the self-esteem issues they must have ;-)" —Mark R. Cusumano > > I also happen to think Vista was a waste of money and I would not have > > purchased it had it not been for the fact that my college required me to [quoted text clipped - 43 lines] > > So something sucks just because you can't afford it? > I also happen to think Vista was a waste of money and I would not have > purchased it had it not been for the fact that my college required me to [quoted text clipped - 43 lines] >> >>Columbianna, You're certainly entitled to your opinion. It has worked fine for me since the day I started using it. Of course, it had the standard bugs and glitches that come with every operating system, including XP. That's to be expected. You stated "I remained silent so I would not hurt his feelings by confirming this reality". Why did you remain silent? You are entitled to your opinion and you should have stated it. C.B. SignatureIt is the responsibility and duty of everyone to help the underprivileged and less fortunate among us. >It is the responsibility and duty of everyone to help the underprivileged >and less fortunate among us. I disagree. It will lead to a disaster. People who cannot help themselves should not be helped. If they try to do something and need only temporary help, then help should be provided. Otherwise is it mess, scam and theft. Most of the charities are the places for stealing. Jimmy Carter, an ex-president idiot, began a project of habitat for humanity outreach. According to The New York Times as of last spring he built 100,000 outhouses in Africa. My point is: people who cannot build their own outhouse do not deserve one. On top of that, I am sure the actual figure is perhaps close to 1,000, the rest of the money is being stolen here and on the way, and of course at the construction sites and I bet the longevity of those outhouses is perhaps 3 months at best. I began reading this thread thinking that I might need to jump in defending Vista against slander and defamation. While reading the posts I realized that I am not really needed. A lot of excellent ideas were expressed all positive for the most part. The anti-vista forces are in disarray and in retreat. The sooner we see their demise the better. >> I also happen to think Vista was a waste of money and I would not have >> purchased it had it not been for the fact that my college required me to [quoted text clipped - 54 lines] > > C.B. > >It is the responsibility and duty of everyone to help the underprivileged > >and less fortunate among us. [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > stolen here and on the way, and of course at the construction sites and I > bet the longevity of those outhouses is perhaps 3 months at best. Give a man a fish...he will eat for a day. Teach a Man to fish...he will eat for a lifetime. Most charities benefit the charity and the organizers. Last time I read, the head of the Red Cross made 0.6 million a year......wonder who is being taken care of ? I. myself, give to individuals....help those who want REAL help....not a never-ending bad habit. >>It is the responsibility and duty of everyone to help the underprivileged >>and less fortunate among us. > > I disagree. It will lead to a disaster. People who cannot help themselves > should not be helped. Sounds like the Republican party line. Help the rich and fsck the rest. > If they try to do something and need only temporary > help, then help should be provided. Otherwise is it mess, scam and theft. > Most of the charities are the places for stealing. Proof? Or are you talking about the "Faith Based Charities"? With this I'd agree. > Jimmy Carter, an ex-president idiot, began a project of habitat for > humanity outreach. According to The New York Times as of last spring he [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > stolen here and on the way, and of course at the construction sites and I > bet the longevity of those outhouses is perhaps 3 months at best. You went over there and checked that out, did you? > I began reading this thread thinking that I might need to jump in > defending Vista against slander and defamation. While reading the posts I > realized that I am not really needed. You've got that right! You're not really needed for anything quite frankly. You know fsck all about computers and even less of economics/politics. > A lot of excellent ideas were > expressed all positive for the most part. The anti-vista forces are in > disarray and in retreat. The sooner we see their demise the better. Retreat? Retreat from what? The likes of YOU? Now, that's funny! ROFL Cheers. SignatureFrank's Brain Activity Plotted (watch the red line): http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i4/Astronomy2/PreformanceMonitor.jpg How a Windows Firewall protects your computer: http://tinyurl.com/2z9qdn AlexB (another Vista expert): "I ruined at least 5 or 6 installations of Vista before I realized what was going on." Contact AlexB to find out how to "delouse" your Vista system. >>>It is the responsibility and duty of everyone to help the underprivileged >>>and less fortunate among us. [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] > Cheers. > hehehe...you give to RS right?...LOL! Frank > People who cannot help themselves should not be helped. Well, that moronic comment really shows what a total idiot you are. To not understand such a basic concept as giving help shows you do not deserve to be treated like a decent human being. > I began reading this thread thinking that I might need to jump in > defending Vista against slander and defamation. LOL! > While reading the posts I realized that I am not really needed. I have no stupid juvenile agenda either way myself. I just see idiots where there are idiots and I certainly know more than any person I have seen here defending Vista with such blind devotion. Moronic advocates like you are fighting for the anti-vista side!! ss. There's going to be a lot of belligerant people on UseNet - that's been a sad fact of UseNet for years, especially in "religious" newsgroups such as this one. You'll note those people because they're not interested in listening so much as having an excuse to rage at people. Please ignore them: whether they're for or against anything, they're not really representative samples. =) It's of the most value all around to voice displeasure about specific and exact pain points. I recently was advocating a particular change to a friend, and was told that it important to know that the community cared about that specific aspect. Thankfully I had good examples/advocacy because I troll through a variety of forums, most of which are better mannered and more well formed (since they're not awful UseNet groups)- but my point is: be specific about your pain points. What should likely happen, as it happened with XP, is that the general and specific pain points will be whittled away at over time as Microsoft releases Service Pack(s), QFEs, and updates, and as other vendors stabilize or release updates. My chief concern is that when people are *not* specific about their pain points, that potentially leaves some unknown problem area out there. I've helped tons of people indirectly through the valuable and critical data provided here. I can't stress enough that if you can ignore (or killfile) the trolls, there's a chance to either work together for positive good or, failing sustained interest, to establish specific points of Bad that should be looked at. SignatureSpeaking for myself only. See http://zachd.com/pss/pss.html for some helpful WMP info. This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. -- > > I also happen to think Vista was a waste of money and I would not have [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > about it, do have plenty of money to make those expensive upgrades and > therefore feel that there is nothing to complain about. whomever changed all the Microsoft applications, and Vista itself so that it is so different from Windows 2000, should be fired. I fear it was Balmer. Everything is so different and more difficult. I have been using computers for 10 years, and am still trying work arounds with this whole mess. Something as easy as right clicking in Excel to print a document, is now gone. Now I have to go up to an icon and click on it. A new operating system and new office applications should be better not worse. Look at the amount of Windows XP users who do not want to install this kluge, and look at the happy Apple operating systems folks who are happy. Somebody is missing the boat big time. I have sent suggestions like this one I just mentioned, and no one appears to be answering the customers. Microsoft is like the big Three here in Detroit, they don't listen to customers and lose market share hand over fist. It doesn't make sense. SignatureJim Fleming > Everywhere I go... people who have vista say it sucks! lol > [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > I remained silent so I would not hurt his feelings by confirming this > reality. > whomever changed all the Microsoft applications, and Vista itself so that it > is so different from Windows 2000, should be fired. I fear it was Balmer. Then you're clueless. > Everything is so different and more difficult. Not really. It's different because you're not use to it. Certainly not more difficult. I have been using computers > for 10 years, and am still trying work arounds with this whole mess. Mess? What "mess" are you referring to? > Something as easy as right clicking in Excel to print a document, is now > gone. Uhhh...excel is a part of Microsoft Office, not Vista. Now I have to go up to an icon and click on it. That's funny...seeing as how I can right click on any document and print it while in Vista. A new operating > system and new office applications should be better not worse. If you don't like Vista or Office '07 then why are you using them? Look at the > amount of Windows XP users who do not want to install this kluge,... No one is forced to install or use Vista. and look at > the happy Apple operating systems folks who are happy. Then buy an apple. Somebody is missing > the boat big time. You? I have sent suggestions like this one... What suggestion? Sent to whom? All I see is mild bitching. I just mentioned, > and no one appears to be answering the customers. Do you have a question concerning the operation or use of Vista? Microsoft is like the big > Three here in Detroit, they don't listen to customers and lose market share > hand over fist. Really? You actually believe that? It doesn't make sense. Your post doesn't make any sense. Frank |
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