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river - 11 May 2008 10:30 GMT
i hav a new asus lappy with the main hd drive partitioned in 2 plus recovery
section (as it comes), and 2 external usb hdd in enclosures. am running vista
ultimate, i am the administrator of the system, only user, no guest accounts.
UAC is off.

now my problem is that ALL the drives have turned them selves into "ready
only" and i cannot delete any folders, files or stuff. click on a folder an
check properties, "read only" highlighted.

uncheck it, it comes up with a box asking if i want to change this option,
click yes, goes off, comes back saying i need admin rights to do this. but i
am the admin of the system

as far as i know i havent changed anything.

any thoughts???

thanks in advance
Rick Rogers - 11 May 2008 12:10 GMT
Hi,

Read-only, as an attribute, applies only to files not folders. The attribute
cannot be changed because it doesn't actually exist even though it appears
to. It's appearance happens as a side affect of customizing a folder. This
is a known quirk that happens in XP as well.

Whether or not a file is read-only has no bearing on whether or not you can
delete it. That would be a permissions issue.

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>i hav a new asus lappy with the main hd drive partitioned in 2 plus
>recovery
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> thanks in advance
Synapse Syndrome - 11 May 2008 13:18 GMT
> Read-only, as an attribute, applies only to files not folders. The
> attribute cannot be changed because it doesn't actually exist even though
> it appears to.

Not sure what you mean there, as the ATTRIB command works on folders, and
you even need the read-only attribute set on User Shell Folders for their
icons to display.

> It's appearance happens as a side affect of customizing a folder. This is
> a known quirk that happens in XP as well.

Do you mean the grey tick?  I thought the explanation for that was that it
just means that the folder may or may not contain read-only files (it does
not know, as finding out could take ages which deep hierarchies).  Well,
that's what I have thought for nearly a decade, and it seems to fit
perfectly.

ss.
Rick Rogers - 11 May 2008 13:38 GMT
Hi,

I find this article to be the best explanation of why it's there:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/256614

Shell folders are unique in how they function and, as you stated, are
handled differently by the OS.

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>> Read-only, as an attribute, applies only to files not folders. The
>> attribute cannot be changed because it doesn't actually exist even though
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> ss.
river - 12 May 2008 07:40 GMT
> Whether or not a file is read-only has no bearing on whether or not you can
> delete it. That would be a permissions issue.

OK then how do i setup 'permissions' to all the drives/folders connected to
my comp?

thanks

alan
Rick Rogers - 12 May 2008 10:39 GMT
Edit permissions on the security tab of the root folder's properties.

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>> Whether or not a file is read-only has no bearing on whether or not you
>> can
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> alan
Mike - 27 May 2008 22:53 GMT
> Edit permissions on the security tab of the root folder's properties.

Hi, I have the same problem, however Vista Ultimate 64 SP1 will change
on reboot so a whole drive as seen in Logical Disk Manager is Read Only.
Shut down, leave it for a while, re-boot and its OK, but now another
physical drive is now read only. It seems to be a random thing, the only
good thing so far is it hasn't affected the physical drive hosting C.

Mike
 
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