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Windows Forum / Windows Vista / General Topics / May 2008Microsoft: XP vs. Vista Is the Same as Apples vs. Oranges
http://keznews.com/4425_Microsoft:_XP_vs._Vista_Is_the_Same_as_Apples_vs._Oranges How about apples and "the rotten fruit of 5 years of crapping around making a totally useless OS" > http://keznews.com/4425_Microsoft:_XP_vs._Vista_Is_the_Same_as_Apples_vs._Oranges > > How about apples and "the rotten fruit of 5 years of crapping around > making a totally useless OS" Vista is and you're not!...LOL! Live with it loser! Frank > http://keznews.com/4425_Microsoft:_XP_vs._Vista_Is_the_Same_as_Apples_vs._Oranges > > How about apples and "the rotten fruit of 5 years of crapping around > making a totally useless OS" Your posts are just like beating a dead horse. You keep yapping like a little nervous poodle. Give it up already. We all know that you don't like Vista. Get over it. Move on. Go apply at Wal-Mart and they will give you this new blue jacket you can wear while customers come into the store. Go download Ubuntu and have a party. >> http://keznews.com/4425_Microsoft:_XP_vs._Vista_Is_the_Same_as_Apples_vs._Oranges >> [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Go download Ubuntu and have a party. I would say that Clear Windows is just a little angry because he wanted to like Vista and wanted MS to continue making good programs like XP. MS didn't and he's not the only one who's disappointed with Vista. Only the fanboys and morons like you and Frank like Vista. Businesses are waiting for Windows 7 or going open source or with a Mac. When you consider how awful Vista is, what does that leave you and Frank, the loyal MS defenders? You show what it leaves you every time you hurl your constant insults, profanity, lies, weird sexual fantasies and inanities when someone complains about Vista. Alias >>> http://keznews.com/4425_Microsoft:_XP_vs._Vista_Is_the_Same_as_Apples_vs._Oranges >>> [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > I would say that Clear Windows is just a little angry because he wanted > to like Vista and wanted MS to continue making good programs like XP. Bullsht! He's an attention starved idiot moron. He's proly the butt of all the jokes at the help desk where he works. MS > didn't and he's not the only one who's disappointed with Vista. You have no idea since you don't use Vista. Only the > fanboys and morons like you and Frank like Vista. You're out of your sheep-fukkin little pea sized brain. Businesses are waiting > for Windows 7 or going open source or with a Mac. More of your fuklk in lies? > When you consider how awful Vista is,... Liar, it isn't! what does that leave you and > Frank, the loyal MS defenders? Defenders? Lets get something straight loser, you're a known and admitted liar, a thief, a spammer, a troll and a bigoted atheist. You show what it leaves you every time > you hurl your constant insults, profanity, lies, weird sexual fantasies > and inanities when someone complains about Vista. Hey bozo, you don't have Vista and you don't use Vista. You're just a lying linux troll. Get lost and don't come back. Frank > Alias > >>http://keznews.com/4425_Microsoft:_XP_vs._Vista_Is_the_Same_as_Apples... > [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > > - Show quoted text - There you go again, lying as usual. Mr. Ubuntu. You throw many lies and insults. Just another Ubuntu fanboy and moron. Oh yea, a SHEEP lover also. >> >>http://keznews.com/4425_Microsoft:_XP_vs._Vista_Is_the_Same_as_Apples... >> [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] >and insults. Just another Ubuntu fanboy and moron. Oh yea, a SHEEP >lover also. Damn funny how you and Frank both have a sheep fetish. Which one of you Bozos first had sex with a sheep or did you do a Sow first or maybe you two idiots started with squirrels. Fess up. > On Thu, 15 May 2008 13:43:52 -0700 (PDT), Bill Yanaire > [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] > > - Show quoted text - You are the pervert in the group. Someone with a head as big as yours can handle many animals at once. You sicko! >><BillYana...@gmail.com> wrote: >> [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] > You are the pervert in the group. Someone with a head as big as yours > can handle many animals at once. You sicko! It appears that drunken pig is jealous cause even he sheep, sow and squirrel won't give him any!...LOL! Now that's a sure sign of a real loser! Frank >>>On Thu, 15 May 2008 13:43:52 -0700 (PDT), Bill Yanaire >>> [quoted text clipped - 50 lines] > Now that's a sure sign of a real loser! > Frank Ain't that the truth! Imagine a poor squirrel having to endure the nightmare of an Adam attempt? Poor thing will need years of therapy! >>>> <BillYana...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> [quoted text clipped - 41 lines] > Ain't that the truth! Imagine a poor squirrel having to endure the > nightmare of an Adam attempt? Poor thing will need years of therapy! I wrote and I quote: "When you consider how awful Vista is, what does that leave you and Frank, the loyal MS defenders? You show what it leaves you every time you hurl your constant insults, profanity, lies, weird sexual fantasies and inanities when someone complains about Vista." Of course, that's exactly what you did. Alias >>>>> On Thu, 15 May 2008 13:43:52 -0700 (PDT), Bill Yanaire >>>>> [quoted text clipped - 63 lines] > > Alias What a clueless POS you are. Frank >>>> http://keznews.com/4425_Microsoft:_XP_vs._Vista_Is_the_Same_as_Apples... >>>> How about apples and "the rotten fruit of 5 years of crapping around [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > and insults. Just another Ubuntu fanboy and moron. Oh yea, a SHEEP > lover also. LOL! You're a predictable as the tide. Alias > LOL! You're a predictable as the tide. I wondered if you would turn up now ubuntu has been shown to have had a really big security hole in it for the last two years. Now will you stop your lies about it being safe? BTW have you checked your system isn't compromised as anyone that uses a ubuntu system should be doing so even if its someone else's like a web server. The same is true for any windows users that may have accessed such a machine but at least the AV software you are so proud of not needing will do the checks on the fly. Now run along to the ubuntu group, find the posts, check/fix your machine and remember that it was you that was wrong just as we said you were. Don't forget to check all the others you have installed and fix them too. Free of charge I would hope, as you recommended the solution in the first place. >> LOL! You're a predictable as the tide. > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > Free of charge I would hope, as you recommended the solution in the > first place. No need. Please read the rest of the posts in the Ubuntu group. That vulnerability was patched yesterday. Oops. Now, go update your AV and anti malware programs and STFU. Alias >>> LOL! You're a predictable as the tide. >> [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > No need. Please read the rest of the posts in the Ubuntu group. That > vulnerability was patched yesterday. Oops. The problem has been there *two years*, there is every need which you would know if you had read about the problem. You could have been compromised at any time in those two years and the fix doesn't check for you. Oops. Applying the fix is not a cure for anything that has happened in the last two years it only stops future problems. So now run along and check your system like you should. And if you don't understand the problems stop ill advising people. > Now, go update your AV and anti malware programs and STFU. Now go and manually check all your systems or do it the easy way and *reinstall* them all. Windows users just need to update the AV if it hasn't been done. > Alias >>>> LOL! You're a predictable as the tide. >>> [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > So now run along and check your system like you should. > And if you don't understand the problems stop ill advising people. I'm running a fresh install of Hardy. It's been on this machine for ONE week. Oops. >> Now, go update your AV and anti malware programs and STFU. > > Now go and manually check all your systems or do it the easy way and > *reinstall* them all. See above. > Windows users just need to update the AV if it hasn't been done. And Spybot, Spywareblaster, etc.? Java? etc.? Not to mention Flash and endless more programs that have to be updated individually, unlike Ubuntu that updates *everything* on your computer from one source. Oh, in regard to your suggestion that I go fix all the Ubuntu installs for free, how many stores do you know that do that for people who have bought Office, Vista or XP? How many of them even provide an XP or Vista install with all the current updates? None? Now STFU. Alias > Oh, in regard to your suggestion that I go fix all the Ubuntu installs for > free, how many stores do you know that do that for people who have bought > Office, Vista or XP? How many of them even provide an XP or Vista install > with all the current updates? None? Now STFU. > > Alias You should go fix all the Ubuntu installs for free. Suggest to your victims that they remove Ubuntu right away and then you can install a real OS for them. Windows XP or Vista depending on their hardware. They will thank you for that >> Oh, in regard to your suggestion that I go fix all the Ubuntu installs for >> free, how many stores do you know that do that for people who have bought [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > them. Windows XP or Vista depending on their hardware. They will thank you > for that We thank you for your opinion and it is duly noted that you're a total moron. Alias >>>>> LOL! You're a predictable as the tide. >>>> [quoted text clipped - 49 lines] > > Alias hehehe...you're infected aren't you...hahaha...LOL! Frank > hehehe...you're infected aren't you...hahaha...LOL! > Frank Stop jumping to conclusions Frank.. the facts are: he may be infected, he doesn't know, he doesn't know how to check, he will fall back on his "ubuntu can't be infected" fallacy and carry on, I hope he gets his bank account cleared, then he might think about it. >> hehehe...you're infected aren't you...hahaha...LOL! >> Frank [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > he will fall back on his "ubuntu can't be infected" fallacy and carry > on, I hope he gets his bank account cleared, then he might think about it. I don't do online bank transfers. I can't even do it because I did not request the codes to do it, much less a hacker. That said: 1. There are a few tools to check your ssh keys, most are affected so be warned. ssh-vulnkey is included in the update of openssh-server. On a Debian/Ubuntu box with ssh server installed : Code: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade apt-get dist-upgrade will install the packages (apt-get upgrade *may* show the packages are held). You can then run : Code: sudo ssh-vulnkey -a If you see "Not Blacklisted: xxx.yyy.zzz /path/to/key" you are ok. The update will regenerate your server keys 2. If you are updating ssh keys on a remote server, be careful. When the ssh keys are regenerated *some* users have lost the ssh connection. If you use keys to ssh into the server, first make sure you have alternate access to the server (temporarily allow logins with password ?) until new keys are in place. Oops. Alias You are like saying Oops, shame its usually when you are about to make another error, just like in this post. Thanks for the detail, but I have seen it. Now I suppose I will have to explain where you are wrong again. >>> hehehe...you're infected aren't you...hahaha...LOL! >>> Frank [quoted text clipped - 38 lines] > to the server (temporarily allow logins with password ?) until new keys > are in place. So you have checked your keys and found them to be OK. This probably means that the keys are safe (but you thought that before didn't you). However what about the keys generated on any other machine you have accessed in the last two years? They may not be safe and you haven't checked them and can't check them now. This means you may have been trusting machines that are compromised and you have no way of knowing. For all you know the machine you downloaded HH from may have been hacked and you may not even have a real HH install on your machine. The same goes for anything you have downloaded. As I said it applies to windows users too, they can just as easily download something from a compromised Ubuntu server, however there is AV software running that will probably stop it before its too late. What stops you from installing something from a hacked server other than blind faith? > Oops. Oops. BTW you used to say it was impossible to hide something malicious in the linux source code because anyone could read the code so it would be found. Why wasn't this found for two years? I expect its because nobody actually does look at the code except maybe the hackers. I know if I were a hacker I would diff the files between releases to see what has changed to look for holes to exploit. > Alias > You are like saying Oops, shame its usually when you are about to make > another error, just like in this post. [quoted text clipped - 74 lines] >> >> Alias Yawn. Alias > Yawn. That is your answer to anything you don't like or don't understand. Warning to any new posters.. Don't trust anything alias says.. He either doesn't understand anything about computer security (and doesn't want to know) or he wants you not to know how to secure your systems and will tell you you are safe doing what he says even though you are not. > Alias >>>>>> LOL! You're a predictable as the tide. >>>>> [quoted text clipped - 54 lines] > hehehe...you're infected aren't you...hahaha...LOL! > Frank Make up your mind. First you he hehehe Then you go hahaha...LOL! You should go ha ha ha ha >> So now run along and check your system like you should. >> And if you don't understand the problems stop ill advising people. > > I'm running a fresh install of Hardy. It's been on this machine for ONE > week. Oops. Only one machine? How do you know it takes more than a week to get compromised if at all? Sounds like stick head in sand and pretend its OK to me, but that's what you have been doing all along isn't it. >>> Now, go update your AV and anti malware programs and STFU. >> >> Now go and manually check all your systems or do it the easy way and >> *reinstall* them all. > > See above. So do it again! It must be fun having to reinstall after every set of fixes to be sure you are OK. Maybe you will just ignore the problem like you have in the past? >> Windows users just need to update the AV if it hasn't been done. > > And Spybot, Spywareblaster, etc.? Java? etc.? Not to mention Flash and > endless more programs that have to be updated individually, unlike Ubuntu > that updates *everything* on your computer from one source. So one source goes down, no updates.. several sources and at least some will be up to date. > Oh, in regard to your suggestion that I go fix all the Ubuntu installs for > free, how many stores do you know that do that for people who have bought > Office, Vista or XP? How many of them even provide an XP or Vista install > with all the current updates? None? Now STFU. You don't warranty your work? Do you tell your customers that before you charge them? > Alias > You don't warranty your work? Do you tell your customers that before you > charge them? I can't be responsible for what people do to their computers any more than Microsoft will give you a free AV and send a tech over to your house every week to do updates. Got any more silly suggestions? Alias >> You don't warranty your work? Do you tell your customers that before you >> charge them? > > I can't be responsible for what people do to their computers any more than > Microsoft will give you a free AV and send a tech over to your house every > week to do updates. M$ do offer free AV. M$ don't need to send a tech, updates are automatic as is checking for malicious software automatically. Its what those AV programs you despise do. If you are going to run software with open access to hackers you need software to check so I suggest you get some for you ubuntu machine. > Got any more silly suggestions? You supply enough without getting others to do your job. > Alias >>> http://keznews.com/4425_Microsoft:_XP_vs._Vista_Is_the_Same_as_Apples_vs._Oranges >>> [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > fanboys and morons like you and Frank like Vista. Businesses are waiting > for Windows 7 or going open source or with a Mac. Yep, you have the track. People like the stability of XP, just buy it and plug it in. They don't want to wait until Vista 7, oops, Win7 to get a realiable and working OS. Besides, if Win7 is based on Vista, it will see market resistance. If it is based on XP Pro 64, it might do well if it is compatible. Trouble is the Win API is so foulded up with layers of crap and complexity that it isn't going to go anywhere. Welcome to legacy Microsoft. > When you consider how awful Vista is, what does that leave you and Frank, > the loyal MS defenders? You show what it leaves you every time you hurl > your constant insults, profanity, lies, weird sexual fantasies and > inanities when someone complains about Vista. > > Alias Vista be like a drop dead gorgeous chick that is otherwise useless, including the ability to deliver. Good to look at, but no one can stand the attitude and no performance. Can't work right, doesn't clean up, hides behind complexity to hide flaws and even your friends and relatives hate her. In short order you realize you need something with less ultra high maintenance and move on. ---------------------------- FUD spreading lying linux bullshitter! Frank >> http://keznews.com/4425_Microsoft:_XP_vs._Vista_Is_the_Same_as_Apples_vs._Oranges >> [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Go download Ubuntu and have a party. That is where MS-Windows admins come from, Walmart or McDonalds. Met more than a few MCSE (McDonnalds Certified Sanitary Engineer). MS-Windows for boys, X-Windows for men. That Ubuntu party will be a better party than being with a bunch of MS drones. >>>http://keznews.com/4425_Microsoft:_XP_vs._Vista_Is_the_Same_as_Apples_vs._Oranges >>> [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > MS-Windows for boys, X-Windows for men. That Ubuntu party will be a better > party than being with a bunch of MS drones. Drunk again? Frank - beating a dead horse-? hope you're not accusing Ubuntu lovers of sadism, necrophilia and bestiality! perry LOL, they are just rehabilitated Windows users... > - beating a dead horse-? > > hope you're not accusing Ubuntu lovers of sadism, necrophilia and > bestiality! > > perry > http://keznews.com/4425_Microsoft:_XP_vs._Vista_Is_the_Same_as_Apples_vs._Oranges > > How about apples and "the rotten fruit of 5 years of crapping around > making a totally useless OS" Heck, Apples are nice systems. Sure beats WinRot CE + ME + NT == Vista. |
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