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Won't let me create New Folders
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JuneBug - 19 May 2008 15:59 GMT After a month or two honeymoon with my new computer last summer, Windows Vista quit letting me create new file folders!!! This is really, really annoying, needless to say. I would really appreciate it if someone could tell me how to fix this.
The other thing is that Windows Vista crashed this weekend and lost some of my files - and the start menu quit working. I think some of the indexes got screwed up or something. I don't know what brought this on except that we had a couple of power failures - and the machine doesn't seem to run chkdsk automatically on restart. If I started the machine and walked away and didn't see the prompt, then I've been using a 'dirty disk' for a week or two and it finally crashed. Or I also installed wireless networking. Also Windows Update downloads automatically and could have downloaded something incompatible with my software. So who knows what might have caused this ...
I couldn't restore either - now if I ask for Windows restore, it comes up with an error message.
I've been using DOS and windows machines for 20 years and I've never had this happen to me before. I've always had virus checkers and been conscientious about backing up my data.
I'm not too happy at the prospect of having a crippled machine.
Brink - 19 May 2008 16:36 GMT JuneBug;716186 Wrote:
> After a month or two honeymoon with my new computer last summer, Windows > Vista quit letting me create new file folders!!! This is really, really [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > > I'm not too happy at the prospect of having a crippled machine. Hi JuneBug,
With that many problems, I would recommend that you backup what you can for what you do not want to lose and do a clean install again.
It sounds like the power failures really corrupted your hard drive data.
Sorry, Shawn
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JuneBug - 19 May 2008 18:20 GMT Yeah. I was afraid of that.
Unfortunately when they sell you computers these days, they don't include the operating system cds. So I guess I'll just have to purchase some of those from Best Buy or Gateway or whoever.
However, it quit letting me create new file folders a looong time ago - so I'm thinking that problem is unrelated to the disk crash.
Anybody have any ideas? Could I have inadvertently altered some setting to not allow me to create new file folders?
Thanks,
JuneBug
> Hi JuneBug, > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Sorry, > Shawn Brink - 19 May 2008 19:05 GMT JuneBug;716320 Wrote:
> Yeah. I was afraid of that. > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > JuneBug JuneBug,
Your computer should of at least included a protected Recovery Partition. You will need to check your computers documentation, but you should be able to boot the computer into it by pressing something like F10 during boot up to reinstall. The key you press varies from computer brands, so I would check online at the computer manufacturer's help and support website to see which one for sure.
Hope this helps, Shawn
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John Barnett MVP - 19 May 2008 19:35 GMT JuneBug,
When they sell you computers these days 'they are obliged to supply you with an option to re-install the operating system' that means either a set of recovery disks or an image of the operating system on a hidden partition on your computer. If none came with your PC then contact the supply and demand to know where they are. A computer with no way of recovery is totally useless. You should 'not' have to pay for something that should be there by default.
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> Yeah. I was afraid of that. > [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] >> Sorry, >> Shawn JuneBug - 20 May 2008 11:49 GMT Thanks to both of you for that information. I bought the computer, a Gateway, at Best Buy, and I didn't realize it had that - or if they told me, I forgot. Geez. I will call them or get out my manual and find out how to use this.
> JuneBug, > [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > >> Sorry, > >> Shawn propman - 19 May 2008 20:48 GMT > Yeah. I was afraid of that. > > Unfortunately when they sell you computers these days, they don't include > the operating system cds. So I guess I'll just have to purchase some of > those from Best Buy or Gateway or whoever. As a couple of others have stated, there are usually backup cab files etc include but installed on a hidden partition...which is probably why you haven't noticed it when you've been using your file manager. There are programs available that will let one observe this partition though I can't think of any right now off the top of my head.....googling should return some pretty fast results though.
> However, it quit letting me create new file folders a looong time ago - so > I'm thinking that problem is unrelated to the disk crash. > > Anybody have any ideas? Could I have inadvertently altered some setting to > not allow me to create new file folders? Not totally up to date here on all the ins and outs of Vista's permissions settings but it's definitely one aspect you should check out.......if I remember correctly, there are the general settings and then a more detailed subgroup of settings which can be refined. Check to make sure you have total administrator rights over your whole system and also make sure you have permissions access for making new folders while logged on as "user" rather than "administrator".
PS If I remember correctly, the MS has a tutorial on Vista's new permissions capabilities.
JuneBug - 20 May 2008 11:53 GMT Again, thank you for the suggestion. I tried looking around for settings, but I don't have much experience with Windows system administration, and I didn't have any luck finding anything. I will try what you suggested.
> > Yeah. I was afraid of that. > > [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > PS If I remember correctly, the MS has a tutorial on Vista's new > permissions capabilities. propman - 19 May 2008 17:35 GMT > After a month or two honeymoon with my new computer last summer, Windows > Vista quit letting me create new file folders!!! This is really, really [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > I'm not too happy at the prospect of having a crippled machine. Safe Mode - F8 key at bootup, remember? :-)
Try booting into safe mode, see what happens, run scandisk etc. Take it from there. From my experience, a lot of these problems are rectified just by booting into safe mode and then immediately rebooting into regular mode.
JuneBug - 19 May 2008 18:14 GMT Thanks, I'll give that a try - actually I think I did boot up in Safe Mode once or twice - but only to run chkdsk - and by then it was too late.
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> Safe Mode - F8 key at bootup, remember? :-) > > Try booting into safe mode, see what happens, run scandisk etc. Take it > from there. From my experience, a lot of these problems are rectified > just by booting into safe mode and then immediately rebooting into > regular mode. Adam Albright - 19 May 2008 20:44 GMT >After a month or two honeymoon with my new computer last summer, Windows >Vista quit letting me create new file folders!!! This is really, really [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > >I'm not too happy at the prospect of having a crippled machine. If you've had multiple power failures and aren't running a UPS then very likely your file system got damaged based on what you're seeing. You can always run chkdsk MANUALLY. Have you? From a command prompt?
NEVER run Windows Update automatically. It simply can't be trusted. You seem close to the point where throwing in the towel in the long run will waste less time. Little point in running a crippled system, time to reinstall Windows. If you haven't yet you could also try a repair if you have a Vista DVD.
Bill Yanaire - 19 May 2008 22:30 GMT >>After a month or two honeymoon with my new computer last summer, Windows >>Vista quit letting me create new file folders!!! This is really, really [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] > time to reinstall Windows. If you haven't yet you could also try a > repair if you have a Vista DVD. Amazing. You gave some good advice without insulting anyone. Very good Adam. There is hope for you after all.
Adam Albright - 19 May 2008 23:56 GMT >>>After a month or two honeymoon with my new computer last summer, Windows >>>Vista quit letting me create new file folders!!! This is really, really [quoted text clipped - 40 lines] >Amazing. You gave some good advice without insulting anyone. Very good >Adam. There is hope for you after all. Must be 90% of my posts are too far over your head for you to even begin to grasp what I'm talking about.
JuneBug - 20 May 2008 11:38 GMT
> If you've had multiple power failures and aren't running a UPS then > very likely your file system got damaged based on what you're seeing. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > time to reinstall Windows. If you haven't yet you could also try a > repair if you have a Vista DVD. "Never run Windows Update automatically" - I've heard those words before. I guess I'm just too trusting. Or lazy. :)
Yes, I did run chkdsk afterwards. The system did something on its own as well without me telling it to - maybe it ran chkdsk automatically - if so, it wasn't the old chkdsk I know and love - it seemed to be repairing all kinds of indexes - I guess what I'm saying is that it did a lot more than I remember the chkdsk on my previous systems doing. But I also ran chkdsk afterwards.
So far some of my data files have 0 content or size - so my current backup is shot to hell because I don't want to inadvertently overwrite good files with bad ones - and it is a hefty one. (20 years without a disk crash, you can imagine) ;)
Actually my programs seem to be working - but the Start Menu shortcuts for some of them got trashed - so I've recreated some of those. The other issue is that I cannot upgrade all my programs to the latest versions - especially since I got cut back to part time - I simply cannot afford it. But I did the compatibility check and my programs were all working fairly well albeit with a few quirks, especially Dreamweaver MX. So I hope they weren't slowly trashing the hard drive. If so, it took them a year to do it. They also may have something to do with my not being able to create file folders?
You all are right - I may have to do a total reinstall, but I'll have to wait to find a huge block of time to be able to do that. This is so inconvenient - a pox on Vista!
Anyway, no one has come forth with any ideas about why the system won't let me create new file folders - this started happening shortly after I got the computer last summer and way before the above mentioned power failures. Is there some kind of setting that takes away your option to create file folders?
Adam Albright - 20 May 2008 16:07 GMT >Anyway, no one has come forth with any ideas about why the system won't let >me create new file folders - this started happening shortly after I got the >computer last summer and way before the above mentioned power failures. Is >there some kind of setting that takes away your option to create file folders? I did a little searching at Google and came upon the following thread which offers some possible suggestions.
http://forum.notebookreview.com/archive/index.php/t-162334.html
It is possible one of your applications added something to the right-click options thus interfering with some of Vista's standard options for right click on making/renaming folders. Also could be some Microsoft Update that's causing this. You can disable any/all Windows Updates then put them back one a time to try to find what if any are causing this.
If you got the time before totally reinstalling your system I would give one of the many Registry Cleaners a shot. Since almost all let you scan your system for free once you download the sample, but don't actually change anything unless you buy it you'll get a detailed list of the "problems". The time consuming part is to one by one step through them all and see if anything impacts your particular problem. Something in your Registry is probably cross linked or not configured correctly or one or more of Vista's system files are corrupt or missing. The problem of course is trying to find out what exactly.
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