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Windows Forum / Windows Vista / General Topics / May 2008any plans for a fax in vista home ?
I find it amazing there is no fax in vista home I purchased win 95 and could fax I purchased win 98 and could fax I purchased xp and could fax I purchased vista and cannot I will not sing up to a fax service with a third party company as i see this as a basic use of computers. Who had the brainwave to leave it out ? When will this be resolved with microsoft to include it as a nother patch ? >I find it amazing there is no fax in vista home Probably because the vast majority of Vista users are on broadband and you can't fax with broadband.... Rubbish, if you have a modem and it is connected to the phone line, you can fax, although in Vista versions other than Ultimate and Business, Microsoft no longer provides it for you. It's cheap enough to buy if you must have. There are even free options to be found by the resourceful and cheapish. >>I find it amazing there is no fax in vista home > > Probably because the vast majority of Vista users are on broadband and you > can't fax with broadband.... I don't have a fax modem or a phone line, why would I want fax software? try sending a e mail attachment.....much harder for the receiver to say they never got it, you know where it went, who received it and when they opened it. > Rubbish, if you have a modem and it is connected to the phone line, you > can fax, although in Vista versions other than Ultimate and Business, [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >> Probably because the vast majority of Vista users are on broadband and >> you can't fax with broadband.... > Rubbish, if you have a modem and it is connected to the phone line, you > can fax, although in Vista versions other than Ultimate and Business, [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >> Probably because the vast majority of Vista users are on broadband and >> you can't fax with broadband.... Now I am not sure what I am missing here. Ultimate and Business have FAX? Wow. Most businesses have dedicated fax lines to dedicated fax machines. Never seen a business PC do a fax. Home users don't generally buy dedicated fax machines and fax lines. They do often share the PC fax with the voice line, when needed. As well as to print/fax to fax machines. Besides, most business users have digital to their office at work, not POTS. Now to me, it makes more sense to exclude fax from Business and not home versions where they are at least ten times likely to be used or wanted. Sounds to me when they packaged Vista Premium someone wasn't thinking too hard. Or perhaps they want to entice what I call the double dip. Buy a PC with Vista Premium, decide it isn't good so either by another OS like XP or Ultimate to get what is missing and not working. Pay twice, works once (maybe). >>Rubbish, if you have a modem and it is connected to the phone line, you >>can fax, although in Vista versions other than Ultimate and Business, [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > XP or Ultimate to get what is missing and not working. Pay twice, works > once (maybe). hehehe...what a fukkin loser you are...hahaha...LOL! Frank >> Rubbish, if you have a modem and it is connected to the phone line, you >> can fax, although in Vista versions other than Ultimate and Business, [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > Ultimate and Business have FAX? Wow. Most businesses have dedicated fax > lines to dedicated fax machines. Never seen a business PC do a fax. Then you've never seen a business save money on ink for their fax machines. In some countries, signatures are legal by fax or mail and email, or a scanned document, is not a legal signature. I use a fax machine to send multiple copies of a document to my computer which converts it into a .TIF file. It's a lot easier than scanning the document. Alias > Home users don't generally buy dedicated fax machines and fax lines. > They do often share the PC fax with the voice line, when needed. As well [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > XP or Ultimate to get what is missing and not working. Pay twice, works > once (maybe). >> Rubbish, if you have a modem and it is connected to the phone line, you >> can fax, although in Vista versions other than Ultimate and Business, [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > Ultimate and Business have FAX? Wow. Most businesses have dedicated fax > lines to dedicated fax machines. Never seen a business PC do a fax. You must be very young! Until the explosion of the internet and email, this was big business. Have you ever heard the name, "WinFax"? > Home users don't generally buy dedicated fax machines and fax lines. Instead, they bought WinFax. There were millions of copies in use every day. > They do often share the PC fax with the voice line, when needed. As well > as to print/fax to fax machines. Besides, most business users have > digital to their office at work, not POTS. These days. Not long ago, this was not the case. And even these days, there are many, many businesses and offices that are not large enough to benefit from digital phone systems. HTH -pk > Now to me, it makes more sense to exclude fax from Business and not home > versions where they are at least ten times likely to be used or wanted. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > XP or Ultimate to get what is missing and not working. Pay twice, works > once (maybe). finally got the live id crap sorted. so back to my origional question will fax services be included in any sp for vista in the near future. of will i give bill gates more money (not a chance) >>> Rubbish, if you have a modem and it is connected to the phone line, you >>> can fax, although in Vista versions other than Ultimate and Business, [quoted text clipped - 43 lines] >> XP or Ultimate to get what is missing and not working. Pay twice, works >> once (maybe). >so back to my origional question will fax services be included in any sp for >vista in the near future. No. > finally got the live id crap sorted. > [quoted text clipped - 52 lines] >>> XP or Ultimate to get what is missing and not working. Pay twice, works >>> once (maybe). I doubt Bill Gates needs your money. I doubt your money could fill a sock...even if you turned it all into pennies > finally got the live id crap sorted. > > so back to my origional question will fax services be included in any sp > for vista in the near future. > of will i give bill gates more money (not a chance) No. But there are free apps you can install. Go Google. >> finally got the live id crap sorted. >> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >No. But there are free apps you can install. Go Google. FREE FAX APPS? Free downloads maybe. Snappy Fax. >> finally got the live id crap sorted. >> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > No. But there are free apps you can install. Go Google. >Snappy Fax. Not free, but it's very reasonably priced. I know... I have it and highly recommend it. I used it with XP rather than use the built-in fax. Don't use it with Vista because I cancelled my land-line service (don't need it) when I signed up for cable Internet access. There are also some good fax/email opportunities out there... very reasonably priced and even include a dedicated phone number. >>> finally got the live id crap sorted. >>> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >> >> No. But there are free apps you can install. Go Google. > Rubbish, if you have a modem and it is connected to the phone line, you > can fax, Duuuhhhhh I KNOW that idiot, READ MY POST. >> Rubbish, if you have a modem and it is connected to the phone line, you >> can fax, > > Duuuhhhhh I KNOW that idiot, READ MY POST. The words in your post, "you can't fax with broadband...." were simply incorrect. Your subsequent posts are rude and largely incoherent attempts to justify your original misstatement and don't relate to the OP's question. You are clearly a troll with a sad, tiny ego and no useful information. >Rubbish, if you have a modem and it is connected to the phone line, you can >fax, although in Vista versions other than Ultimate and Business, Microsoft >no longer provides it for you. It's cheap enough to buy if you must have. >There are even free options to be found by the resourceful and cheapish. No it's not rubbish. Fax is a telephone system, not a computer networking function. Yes, if you have a fax modem hooked up tot he phone system, you can fax from your computer, you can do lots of things on a computer with the right hardware and software. If you're using a cable modem, WiFi, or a LAN connection and your computer isn't connected to a telephone line, then you can't.  SignatureTim Slattery MS MVP(Shell/User) Slattery_T@bls.gov http://members.cox.net/slatteryt >> Rubbish, if you have a modem and it is connected to the phone line, you can >> fax, although in Vista versions other than Ultimate and Business, Microsoft [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > using a cable modem, WiFi, or a LAN connection and your computer isn't > connected to a telephone line, then you can't. Gosh, some real truisms there, Steve, but not relevant to the question as to why MS deemed that only Business and Ultimate have a built in fax program. Alias >>> Rubbish, if you have a modem and it is connected to the phone line, >>> you can fax, although in Vista versions other than Ultimate and [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Alias Alias, I know you know the answer. The big double dip. Sell a user a crippled Premium or Basic. When the user discovers it is a POS, they spend more for a second OS to get what they need. Top it off, Microsoft is working actively on the triple dip. Win7, many Vista users will scramble to get off the Vista PoC band waggon and buy WinRot 7. Triple dip, brilliant. 3 year cycle on 5 year PCs and a Vista foul up in- between. DOS 2.x-6.x, Win 3.x, Win9x. Win NT x, Win 2000x, XP, Linux. >>>> Rubbish, if you have a modem and it is connected to the phone line, >>>> you can fax, although in Vista versions other than Ultimate and [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > > DOS 2.x-6.x, Win 3.x, Win9x. Win NT x, Win 2000x, XP, Linux. Same progression I went through except my first computer was an Apple MacIntosh that had 128K memory and everything had to be written to a diskette. Still use XP for things but the way Windows is going, I feel I should study and get hands on experience with alternatives. Alias >> I find it amazing there is no fax in vista home > > Probably because the vast majority of Vista users are on broadband and > you can't fax with broadband.... If you don't need to scan documents, you might look at http://www.pamfax.biz/ You have to have Skype to use it, but you can send document anywhere in the world. >> I find it amazing there is no fax in vista home > > Probably because the vast majority of Vista users are on broadband and > you can't fax with broadband.... And how, precisely, is that relevant? Alias >>> I find it amazing there is no fax in vista home >> [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Alias Because that is possibly a reason why Home doesn't have Fax in it - as the OP asked. >>>> I find it amazing there is no fax in vista home >>> [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Because that is possibly a reason why Home doesn't have Fax in it - as > the OP asked. So, you're saying that businesses connect to the Internet by dial up or what? That does NOT explain why Home doesn't have a fax program, sorry. I have broadband and one of my computers receives faxes all day long and it is connected to the broadband and to a phone line. Alias >>>>> I find it amazing there is no fax in vista home >>>> [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > broadband and one of my computers receives faxes all day long and it is > connected to the broadband and to a phone line. Well the vast majority of HOME computers that I come across are NOT connected by broadband AND a separate analog phone line....most of the people I come across with a HOME computer don't even realise that it MIGHT contain a modem....in fact a goodly number of machines that are sold these days don't even HAVE a modem..... >>>>>> I find it amazing there is no fax in vista home >>>>> [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > MIGHT contain a modem....in fact a goodly number of machines that are > sold these days don't even HAVE a modem..... For those who don't use a fax, you have a point. I thought we were talking about those who do. Alias > I find it amazing there is no fax in vista home > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > Who had the brainwave to leave it out ? When will this be resolved with > microsoft to include it as a nother patch ? If you need a FAX with Vista, you now have to buy it extra from a third party. /modub/ said: > I find it amazing there is no fax in vista home > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > Who had the brainwave to leave it out ? > When will this be resolved with microsoft to include it as a nother patch ? Easily remedied - at no cost... http://WWW.USR.COM/bvrp/bvrp.asp http://WWW.BLACKICE.COM/impColorFaxLite.htm |
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