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Disk Cleanup & Defrag. Scheduling

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Jerry - 23 May 2008 22:14 GMT
Disk Cleanup and Defrag.  Scheduling (Vista)

When I schedule Disk Cleanup, a default schedule says cleanup will be
activated when I am logged on.

There is another option that says cleanup can be activated when I am logged
on or off, but it is grayed out, and I am having difficulty gaining access to
that option.

1. So, am I to assume that Disk Cleanup will only activate when I am logged
on at the time specified?

However, when I schedule Defrag., there are no options.

2. So, am I to assume Defrag. will activate if I am logged on or off at a
specified time?

Also, the Defrag, window tells you the last time Defrag. was runned.

3. Is there a log or another window I can check to see if Defrag. was
completed?

Thanks,
Jerry
t-4-2 - 23 May 2008 23:49 GMT
Jerry;720567 Wrote:
> Disk Cleanup and Defrag. Scheduling (Vista)
>
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> Thanks,
> Jerry
Hello Jerry,
What version of Vista do you have? Mine is Home Premium 32-bit, and
there is no such option as scheduled disk cleanup. I ran it manually
when I needed to. As to the scheduled defragmentation please follow this

Start menu > click Computer > highlight one of the disks(left click),
then right click, then choose Properties > top panel choose Tools >
click Defrag now > after the prompt, you'll see this (please click the
screenshot link) :

'ImageGrotto: Free Image and Screenshot Hosting'
(http://imagegrotto.com/view-defrag12462.JPG)
If you are looking at the screenshot, there is an option to modify the
schedule, when last defrag ran, and when is the next schedule run.
Lastly, vista defrag runs in the background, and to most people's
dismay, it won't tell you a darn thing except what you can see from the
screenshot. A log? Forget about it. Sorry.

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Jerry - 24 May 2008 01:25 GMT
t-4-2

Thanks for your return.  It was nice of you to explain how to schedule and
run the events.  However, I knew how to do that.
My questions were more specific as to whether these scheduled events will
run if I am logged in or out.  
I use Home Premium 32 bit.  You can find scheduling of Disk Cleanup at:  
http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Windows/en-US/help/4bda81e9-afef-46a1-a704-1a9d
70bdd1981033.mspx


Jerry

> Jerry;720567 Wrote:
> > Disk Cleanup and Defrag. Scheduling (Vista)
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> dismay, it won't tell you a darn thing except what you can see from the
> screenshot. A log? Forget about it. Sorry.
t-4-2 - 24 May 2008 02:28 GMT
Jerry;720697 Wrote:
> t-4-2
>
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>
> Jerry

Hello Jerry,
Thank you for the link. I'll go over it at a better time.
When it comes to the defrag, my answer is : you have to log in before
defrag will run. I never turn my laptop on at 1 A.M. just for disk
defrag. As you can see from my screenshot, last run was on 5/21/08 6:31
am. I get up at 6 each day, coffee, turn computer on and check on news
etc. That was why defrag ran at 6:31 am, not 1 am. Now, I have learned
that Windows Defender can be temporarily "waken" to do scanning even
when the computer is not ON, and this is done by changing setting via
Task Scheduler. Maybe we can do the same thing for disk defrag. Until
someone comes along and show us the way, I'll stick to my "no" answer. I
know, that means zero to what you want to know.

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t-4-2 - 24 May 2008 03:33 GMT
t-4-2;720739 Wrote:
> Hello Jerry,
> Thank you for the link. I'll go over it at a better time.
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> someone comes along and show us the way, I'll stick to my "no" answer. I
> know, that means zero to what you want to know.
Hello Jerry,
I have found a way to "wake" the computer and do a defrag even if the
computer is not turned on at the time. Here is how :-
Open the Task Scheduler > click Task Scheduler Libruary, then click the
pointer in front of it > click the pointer in front of Microsoft > click
the pointer in front of Windows > click Defrag > middle column, Double
Click Scheduled D.. > click Conditions > click the box in front of "wake
the computer to run this task" > Apply/OK. (Please click screenshot
link. )

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(http://imagegrotto.com/view-task_defrag12498.JPG)

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Jerry - 24 May 2008 16:38 GMT
Hello t-4-2

Thanks for your return.  By fooling around with your link, I was able to
solve my problem for Disk Cleanup.  Your link for Screenshot is quite clever.
I should probably learn that.

Jerry

> t-4-2;720739 Wrote:
> > Hello Jerry,
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> 'ImageGrotto: Free Image and Screenshot Hosting'
> (http://imagegrotto.com/view-task_defrag12498.JPG)
Jerry - 24 May 2008 17:16 GMT
T-4-2
Since we are talking about maintenance items, I would like to pass along one
of my experiences.  I tried to activate Check Disk (Chkdsk) on two occasions
and after it completed the process I had two problems.  In one case, my mouse
froze on me and in the second case I lost contact with the Internet.  I was
wondering if you have tried Check Disk and was it trouble free?

Jerry

> Hello t-4-2
>
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> > 'ImageGrotto: Free Image and Screenshot Hosting'
> > (http://imagegrotto.com/view-task_defrag12498.JPG)
t-4-2 - 24 May 2008 18:27 GMT
Jerry;721203 Wrote:
> T-4-2
> Since we are talking about maintenance items, I would like to pass
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>
> Jerry

Hello Jerry,
I didn't notice this post until now. Wonder why. I'm supposed to
receive notification each time I have reply. This one didn't show up.
Anyway, Yes I had done a few chkdsk and never had a problem, although
there were a few problems it couldn't fix. Speaking of which, did you
run chkdsk read-only, or did you run ** chkdsk /f, or even chkdsk /f /r
** ?

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t-4-2 - 24 May 2008 17:42 GMT
Jerry;721151 Wrote:
> Hello t-4-2
>
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>
> Jerry

Nice to know you have your answers. I can't take credit. Learned the
basic method over the issue of Windows Defender.
Just curious, it is really necessary to schedule disk cleanup ?

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Jerry - 24 May 2008 22:21 GMT
t-s-r
First, your Chkdsk query.  The story goes like this.  On my first Chkdsk try
I used the menu supplied by Windows.  It does not have the switch options you
noted.  In that menu, you have two choices. The first choice is to fix system
errors.  The second choice is to do the first choice plus scan and recover
bad sectors.  The first time I chose only the first choice and my mouse
froze.  I contacted Dell to fix my mouse problem.  After the mouse problem
was fixed, they asked me to try Chkdsk “outside of Windows.”  To do that,
they had me power down and up using the F8 key and pointed me toward a Repair
menu that had a command prompt option.  In the option I typed Chkdsk C:,
again without any switch notations.  The Chkdsk worked fine and I had no
problems afterwards.

So, I tried to do it again, this time using Windows (as I did before).  
Except this time I chose both choices.  I will say choosing both choices,
Chkdsk took a lot longer to complete.  When it was finished, is was then when
I lost my Internet connection.

Now to put this in some perspective, I will say that on previous occasions I
have lost the Internet under other circumstances.  So, maybe the Chkdsk was
just a coincidence.  I have contacted Dell about my Internet problem, and one
tech told me they have had many calls on this issue.  So, I think I need to
try Chkdsk again and see if problems continue.

Now, your query about the necessity to schedule disk cleanup.  I try to
practice a decent job in doing what I can to keep my PC running smoothly.  
And, since there seems to be a number to keep track of (6 for me), I could
forget one or two.  Plus, if I can do it automatically, it saves me one more
issue I have to do.

Jerry

> Jerry;721151 Wrote:
> > Hello t-4-2
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> basic method over the issue of Windows Defender.
> Just curious, it is really necessary to schedule disk cleanup ?
Jerry - 24 May 2008 22:30 GMT
T-s-r-

The following is the link that tells you what I did.  I did the first option
listed.

http://www.maximumpcguides.com/how-to-use-check-disk-in-windows-vista/

Jerry

> t-s-r
> First, your Chkdsk query.  The story goes like this.  On my first Chkdsk try
[quoted text clipped - 41 lines]
> > basic method over the issue of Windows Defender.
> > Just curious, it is really necessary to schedule disk cleanup ?
t-4-2 - 24 May 2008 23:52 GMT
Jerry;721452 Wrote:
> t-s-r
> First, your Chkdsk query. The story goes like this. On my first Chkdsk
[quoted text clipped - 43 lines]
>
> Jerry

Hello Jerry,
The "power off, power on, tapping F8 key" is one of the methods to put
your machine in Safe Mode with several options, one of which is safe
mode with command prompt. But you don't have to go to safe mode in order
to have the command prompt. Your link shows the 2nd option for exactly
that.
chkdsk C: command is read-only. Meaning it will check but will not fix.
The letter C is for your C drive. Your can replace it with another
letter, ie. D:  for your D drive.
If you want chkdsk on entire computer, leave out the letter. Your link
explains fully regarding /f, /r and so on.
I'm no geek. I can't even begin to envision why your computer froze
after chkdsk.
I kind of suspecting you have more than one computer in mind regarding
disk cleanup. It makes sense.

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Jerry - 25 May 2008 01:20 GMT
t-4-2

Thanks for the clarification on using only chkdsk C:   I suspected that it
was a read only option.  I think Dell did that as a first choice to confirm I
had no bad files.  Had he found bad files, I would have thought he would have
done more.

Jerry

> Jerry;721452 Wrote:
> > t-s-r
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> I kind of suspecting you have more than one computer in mind regarding
> disk cleanup. It makes sense.
t-4-2 - 25 May 2008 03:12 GMT
Jerry;721569 Wrote:
> t-4-2
>
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>
> Jerry

Hello Jerry,
Our computers are not AI yet ( artificial intelligence ). It does what
you enter. If it's chkdsk that you entered , it won't do chkdsk /f. If,
and that's a big IF, you have time, you might want to do a chkdsk /f .
Follow your link's option 2. You can obtain a chkdsk log afterwards.

[image: file:///C:/Users/t-4-2/Pictures/windows%20logs.JPG]

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t-4-2 - 25 May 2008 03:19 GMT
t-4-2;721651 Wrote:
> Hello Jerry,
> Our computers are not AI yet ( artificial intelligence ). It does what
> you enter. If it's chkdsk that you entered , it won't do chkdsk /f. If,
> and that's a big IF, you have time, you might want to do a chkdsk /f .
> Follow your link's option 2. You can obtain a chkdsk log afterwards.
> I'll show you how the log is like when I have my screenshots ready.
screenshot of chkdsk D: /f  
Of course, on a real one you can scroll up and down to view the whole
log.

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Jerry - 25 May 2008 15:57 GMT
Hello t-4-2

Thanks again.  Yes, I am going to try method 2 when I next do chkdsk.  
However, it would seem prudent to use both swithches,  /f and /r.  I meant to
thank you for taking the time to pick up my post an address my query.  

Jerry

> t-4-2;721651 Wrote:
> > Hello Jerry,
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> 'ImageGrotto: Free Image and Screenshot Hosting'
> (http://imagegrotto.com/view-chkdsk_log12645.JPG)
t-4-2 - 25 May 2008 16:38 GMT
Jerry;722054 Wrote:
> Hello t-4-2
>
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>
> Jerry

You are welcome.

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