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If The World Uses Microsoft Office, Who Needs Open Office, Just FYI

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kevpan815 - 25 May 2008 00:56 GMT
If Most Of The World Uses Microsoft Office, Just FYI Who Would Need Open
Office?  Just FYI.  Isn't It Just Stupid To Use What Nobody Else Uses?  Just
FYI
ray - 25 May 2008 02:18 GMT
> If Most Of The World Uses Microsoft Office, Just FYI Who Would Need Open
> Office?  Just FYI.  Isn't It Just Stupid To Use What Nobody Else Uses?
> Just FYI

No, not if it does the same thing and saves you $300!
user@domain.tld - 25 May 2008 02:51 GMT
>> If Most Of The World Uses Microsoft Office, Just FYI Who Would Need Open
>> Office?  Just FYI.  Isn't It Just Stupid To Use What Nobody Else Uses?
>> Just FYI
>
> No, not if it does the same thing and saves you $300!
AMEN!

Not like *some* people don't just... download, the product... for free.

Not that I am one of those people (Thunderbird and Open Office for the win!)
Frank - 25 May 2008 03:10 GMT
>>If Most Of The World Uses Microsoft Office, Just FYI Who Would Need Open
>>Office?  Just FYI.  Isn't It Just Stupid To Use What Nobody Else Uses?
>>Just FYI
>
> No, not if it does the same thing and saves you $300!

You open sores/open orifice fanatical zealots are certainly good at lying!
MS Office 2007 at Fry's...$129.99!
Give it up ok?
frank
ray - 25 May 2008 04:10 GMT
>>>If Most Of The World Uses Microsoft Office, Just FYI Who Would Need
>>>Open Office?  Just FYI.  Isn't It Just Stupid To Use What Nobody Else
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> Give it up ok?
> frank

OK frankie so you can buy a handicapped version of MS Office for only $130
- would it not be reasonable to TRY OpenOffice.Org first for FREE and see
if it does what you need?
Adam Albright - 25 May 2008 04:20 GMT
>>>>If Most Of The World Uses Microsoft Office, Just FYI Who Would Need
>>>>Open Office?  Just FYI.  Isn't It Just Stupid To Use What Nobody Else
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>- would it not be reasonable to TRY OpenOffice.Org first for FREE and see
>if it does what you need?

Asking Frank that would require him to think. Frank has demonstrated
repeatedly that is beyond his ability. Besides, Frank enjoys being a
Microsoft shill and shamelessly will try to browbeat anyone in to
throwing more money away on more Microsoft crap.
measekite - 26 May 2008 17:47 GMT
>>> If Most Of The World Uses Microsoft Office, Just FYI Who Would Need
>>> Open
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> Give it up ok?
> frank
The stupid LOL! does not know that this $129.00 does not have MS Access
database.  Open Office for free does have a database.  Granted that MS
Access is the best desktop database it is not included in the standard
version of office.  Very few users (comparatively) have the professional
version of office so we are comparing a standard version of Office for
$130.00 against Open Office for free and OO has a database, spreadsheet,
writer, draw and presentation program and handles graphics better and
runs more efficiently.  Granted MS Office does have more features but
most people never use them so for most people it is better to use OO.  
Additionally OO can save and open many formats including its own format
that is better and most MS Office formats except the current one that
few use since it is not even compatible with the majority of other
Microsoft users out there.

Only dingbats like LOL would use the new MS Format because he does not
have any one to correspond with anyway.
Alias - 26 May 2008 17:49 GMT
>>>> If Most Of The World Uses Microsoft Office, Just FYI Who Would Need
>>>> Open
[quoted text clipped - 24 lines]
> Only dingbats like LOL would use the new MS Format because he does not
> have any one to correspond with anyway.

The student/teacher version doesn't have Outlook either. Frank the w.nk 
sure lives up to his position in this newsgroup: The Village Idiot.

Alias
Frank - 26 May 2008 18:44 GMT
>>>>> If Most Of The World Uses Microsoft Office, Just FYI Who Would Need
>>>>> Open
[quoted text clipped - 27 lines]
>
> The student/teacher version doesn't have Outlook either.

It's called "Office Home & Student", you moron!

 Frank the w.nk
> sure lives up to his position in this newsgroup: The Village Idiot.

You still live up to your position don't you mr liar, mr thief, mr
troll, mr spammer, mr atheist, mr bigot!
Frank

> Alias
measekite - 26 May 2008 22:05 GMT
>>>>> If Most Of The World Uses Microsoft Office, Just FYI Who Would
>>>>> Need Open
[quoted text clipped - 26 lines]
>
> The student/teacher version doesn't have Outlook either.

> Frank the w.nk 
AHHHH!! ha ha ha ha ...BTL  Boy that is really funny.  I loved it.  Sad
But True!!!  ha ha ha ha
> sure lives up to his position in this newsgroup:

> The Village Idiot.
Another good one.

> Alias
Bill Yanaire - 27 May 2008 20:47 GMT
> >>>> If Most Of The World Uses Microsoft Office, Just FYI Who Would Need
> >>>> Open
[quoted text clipped - 31 lines]
>
> - Show quoted text -

Alias the is Country Idiot in all of Spain.  The King of Spain has
told his subjects to abandon Ubuntu as quick as you can.  Since no
normal computing or productivity can come from Ubuntu, the King has
ordered all people to start using Windows XP or Vista on their
machines.  Of course this order does not apply to MACs.
Adam Albright - 27 May 2008 20:59 GMT
>> >>>> If Most Of The World Uses Microsoft Office, Just FYI Who Would Need
>> >>>> Open
[quoted text clipped - 37 lines]
>ordered all people to start using Windows XP or Vista on their
>machines.  Of course this order does not apply to MACs.

You were calling somebody else an idiot where you wrote the following?

"Alias the is Country Idiot in all of Spain"

Is 'the is' some new grammar reserved for fools like you and Frank?
Bill Yanaire - 27 May 2008 21:06 GMT
> On Tue, 27 May 2008 12:47:49 -0700 (PDT), Bill Yanaire
>
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>
> - Show quoted text -

This isn't elementary school.  Who gives a RATS a.s if the grammer
isn't up to par?  You should talk, your Etiquette isn't up to
standard.  Etiquette, one aspect of decorum, is a code that governs
the expectations of social behavior, according to the contemporary
conventional norm within a society, social class, or group. Usually
unwritten, it may be codified in written form. Etiquette usually
reflects formulas of conduct in which society or tradition have
invested.

Maybe you should take a class.
Adam Albright - 26 May 2008 18:26 GMT
>>>> If Most Of The World Uses Microsoft Office, Just FYI Who Would Need
>>>> Open
[quoted text clipped - 24 lines]
>Only dingbats like LOL would use the new MS Format because he does not
>have any one to correspond with anyway.

The idiot known as Frank is a creature of habit. He goes LOL! when he
eats. He does it when he picks his nose, goes to the bathroom, when
driving, all the time. He can't help himself, he's a damn fool as
everybody already knows. So I'm afraid your lucid explanation of the
differences between versions of MS Office and why it makes sense for
most people to at least give Open Office a try to see it if meets
their needs is way beyond the primitive grunting, snorting and
laughing of a newsgroup buffoon with a IQ below 60.
Daddy Tadpole - 26 May 2008 21:16 GMT
If we may leave buffooning to one side, the only thing I miss with OO is the
grammar checker. I write mostly in French, and like other grammatically
structured languages it's too easy to make elementary mistakes that don't
exist in English.

Last time I looked, the OO people were working on it. Must have another
look.

BTW, Word's grammar checker is a help, but it's frustratingly stupid - for
example if you omit an accent or use the wrong one, it doesn't recognise the
word at all. That, and a smallish retirement pension, is one reason I'm
trying hard to get away from Microsoft.

Regards

>>>>> If Most Of The World Uses Microsoft Office, Just FYI Who Would Need
>>>>> Open
[quoted text clipped - 33 lines]
> their needs is way beyond the primitive grunting, snorting and
> laughing of a newsgroup buffoon with a IQ below 60.
Adam Albright - 26 May 2008 21:27 GMT
>If we may leave buffooning to one side, the only thing I miss with OO is the
>grammar checker. I write mostly in French, and like other grammatically
>structured languages it's too easy to make elementary mistakes that don't
>exist in English.

I don't know how accurate it is, how about something like this that
uses simple copy and paste? French grammar checker, LePatron:

http://stefansinclair.name/node/40
Daddy Tadpole - 27 May 2008 10:07 GMT
Merci,

I've bookmarked it and will give it a try.

>>If we may leave buffooning to one side, the only thing I miss with OO is
>>the
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> http://stefansinclair.name/node/40
Alias - 27 May 2008 00:48 GMT
> If we may leave buffooning to one side, the only thing I miss with OO is
> the grammar checker. I write mostly in French, and like other
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
> Regards

Have you checked out AbiWord? It's free.

Alias

>>>>>> If Most Of The World Uses Microsoft Office, Just FYI Who Would Need
>>>>>> Open
[quoted text clipped - 33 lines]
>> their needs is way beyond the primitive grunting, snorting and
>> laughing of a newsgroup buffoon with a IQ below 60.
measekite - 26 May 2008 22:08 GMT
>  
>>    
[quoted text clipped - 34 lines]
> The idiot known as Frank is a creature of habit. He goes LOL! when he
> eats.
ha ha ha ha
> He does it when he picks his nose
and then eats it
> , goes to the bathroom,
he eats that too
> when
> driving, all the time. He can't help himself, he's a damn fool as
> everybody already knows.
amen
>  So I'm afraid your lucid explanation of the
> differences between versions of MS Office and why it makes sense for
> most people to at least give Open Office a try to see it if meets
> their needs is way beyond the primitive grunting, snorting and
> laughing of a newsgroup

> buffoon
terrific
> with a IQ below 60.
Adam Albright - 25 May 2008 03:49 GMT
>> If Most Of The World Uses Microsoft Office, Just FYI Who Would Need Open
>> Office?  Just FYI.  Isn't It Just Stupid To Use What Nobody Else Uses?
>> Just FYI
>
>No, not if it does the same thing and saves you $300!

Kevpan815 is showing typical fanboy logic. Why use open source that's
free when you can pay $300 and give it to Microsoft.

Damn, are fanboys idiots or what?

That was rhetorical. EVERYBODY knows the answer.
kevpan815 - 25 May 2008 05:14 GMT
That Was Not Me, Just FYI. That Was Spankey DeMonkey Being My Impostor Again,
Just FYI. Open Source Linux Ubuntu 804 Long Term Support, Open Source Open
Office.Org 2.4, And Open Source Mozilla Firefox 3.0 Release Candidate 1,
Rules The Day, Microsoft Windows Vista Service Pack One, Microsoft Office
2007 Service Pack One, Microsoft Windows Internet Explorer 7.0 Release To Web
And Microsoft Windows Internet Explorer 8.0 Beta 1 Are Fundamentally Flawed
And Needs 2 Be Recalled A.S.A.P., Also Just FYI. Also Microsoft Should Allow
Anyone Who Was Ill Fated Enough 2 Buy A Copy Of Any Version Of Windows Vista
(Gold Or SP1) A Free Upgrade 2 Microsoft Windows Server 2008, A Free
Downgrade 2 64 Bit Windows XP Service Pack 2 X64 Edition, Or A Free Downgrade
2 32 Bit Windows XP Service Pack 3, Just FYI.

> >> If Most Of The World Uses Microsoft Office, Just FYI Who Would Need Open
> >> Office?  Just FYI.  Isn't It Just Stupid To Use What Nobody Else Uses?
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
> That was rhetorical. EVERYBODY knows the answer.
kevpan815 - 25 May 2008 15:31 GMT
Don't Listen To Me Because I Don't Know What I Am Saying.  The Voices In My
Head Are Getting Loud.  Just FYI

Ubuntu Really Sucks, Just FYI

Just FYI

> That Was Not Me, Just FYI. That Was Spankey DeMonkey Being My Impostor
> Again,
[quoted text clipped - 27 lines]
>>
>> That was rhetorical. EVERYBODY knows the answer.
Charlie Tame - 25 May 2008 08:49 GMT
>>> If Most Of The World Uses Microsoft Office, Just FYI Who Would Need Open
>>> Office?  Just FYI.  Isn't It Just Stupid To Use What Nobody Else Uses?
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
> That was rhetorical. EVERYBODY knows the answer.

Actually OO is the honorable thing to do in some cases.

For example at work we have legit copies of MS Office (Naturally). Some
machines only use that kind of thing very occasionally. We "Could"
install MS Office just so it is there "In case" it is ever needed, but
that would be illegal and against MS EULA. What I am speaking about here
are machines that are more or less kept as backups for emergency use.

I seriously doubt that anyone at MS would care about such minimal use /
backup installation, but they can't say that in "Legal" terms can they?
Unlike "Cloning" a disk drive these machines "Could" be used independently.

So Open Office keeps everyone happy, including MS' Lawyers. So Mr
Ballmer can actually blame his own lawyers for encouraging the use of a
rival product.
Milt - 25 May 2008 17:45 GMT
> No, not if it does the same thing and saves you $300!

But it doesn't.

I've frequently tried to get Open Office to deal with an Access 2000
database. After much fighting I finally got it to open but then to get
it to be as easy to modify/change as it is in Office? Nope. I wish
people would quit trying to say Open Office works exactly the same as MS
Office and can read/write exactly the same when it does not. In fact I
noticed that when Open Office opened that Access 2000 database, it
actually saved a NEW file that it seemed to use to interface with the
original database file. It never actually touched the original database
file!
Adam Albright - 25 May 2008 18:07 GMT
>> No, not if it does the same thing and saves you $300!
>
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>original database file. It never actually touched the original database
>file!

I was careful to say that Open Office is a good alternative for MOST
people, not a cure all. Like in another thread using a newer version
of brand name software on older format files doesn't also work as the
OP trying to open old Adobe PDF files found out. Open Office may or
may not open older files created in different software. That's a
given. The point I was making Open Office is a good free alternative
if you're just starting out or are making new records. I ALWAYS try
open source alternatives before buying more Microsoft crap.
Leythos - 25 May 2008 18:08 GMT
> > If Most Of The World Uses Microsoft Office, Just FYI Who Would Need Open
> > Office?  Just FYI.  Isn't It Just Stupid To Use What Nobody Else Uses?
> > Just FYI
>
> No, not if it does the same thing and saves you $300!

Ray, if you're suggesting that OO does all the same things that MS
Office does then you've not actually used one or both of them.

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kevpan815 - 25 May 2008 05:03 GMT
If Open Office Is Free, Who Needs Microsoft Office, Just FYI.

P.S. Go Away Impostor, Just FYI.

> If Most Of The World Uses Microsoft Office, Just FYI Who Would Need Open
> Office?  Just FYI.  Isn't It Just Stupid To Use What Nobody Else Uses?  Just
> FYI
 
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