>While spybot is truly one of the best spyware removers money doesnt have
>to buy, Trend is really going to be little help. I'm afraid I have
>personaly witnessed it fail to protect systems and am currently mopping
>up a big mess it let happen at a very busy business costing a lot of
>hours and money.
I won't say any virus program is bulletproof.
I just went into my 8th year using Trend. Because it works. They released an
update that was worse than any virus. But out of 8 years, I'd call that almost
a perfect record.
I have to scan weekly, and trend finds crap all the time that made it under the
radar. Such as winspy a week back. But with spybot S&D, it cleaned it up just
fine.
Trend couldn't identify it. For registry removal I had to find winspy in
Symantecs encyclopedia.
But spybot found what symantec missed.
What this guy is explaining sounds just like winspy. And spybot takes and
cleans it up just fine.
You don't have to reformat EVER. just quit spreading rumors that these things
some how have super human abilities.
They stick themselves in hidden folders, they scatter stuff through the
registry. They lock all files. Change permissions etc..
But they don't do anything that makes them permanent fixtures. If they can be
installed, they can be removed.
>However, once this type of infection takes hold, the system will never
>feel the same unless everything is purged and re-installed. These
>programs set themselves in deep and are very hard to remove entirely.
And you don't stop until you've removed it. Just google with the information
you have, and you'll find someone else that's had the problem, and fixed it.
>The time involved trying to remove these is far greater then the time
>it would take to re-install the entire system. And reformating is a for
>sure way of being sure all the offending application is permanetly and
>completly removed.
It took me an hour for winspy. It takes me weeks to reinstall all the software,
and setup all the configs. Format would be the last resort before considering
turning it into a planter.
Format is Seldom an option.

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Alias - 31 May 2008 14:44 GMT
>> While spybot is truly one of the best spyware removers money doesnt have
>> to buy, Trend is really going to be little help. I'm afraid I have
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> turning it into a planter.
> Format is Seldom an option.
I used to use TrendMicro until I discovered that Avast! free found
viruses that TrendMicro didn't find.
Alias