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Do i have to keep Windows Defender?
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SD - 29 May 2008 21:54 GMT Hi, I am not sure if i have to keep Window Defender in ON. It came with Windows Vista. I have already a antivirus AVG 8.0 with all options activate. Could you please tell me, if in some way the updates from microsoft (Windows Defender) could overload my computer's memory?. or make it slower?. Thank you for your answer.
renegade - 29 May 2008 22:09 GMT > Hi, > I am not sure if i have to keep Window Defender in ON. It came with Windows > Vista. > I have already a antivirus AVG 8.0 with all options activate. > Could you please tell me, if in some way the updates from microsoft (Windows > Defender) could overload my computer's memory?. or make it slower?.
> Thank you for your answer. You should include what version of Windows Vista you are using and how much RAM you have on your computer.
Windows Defender is not an antivirus program, but an anti-spyware programand pop-up protector. You do not need to keep it ON if you do not want to. AVG may provide anti-spyware, adware and other such protections. This is what Defender does.
Windows Defender is a free program that helps protect your computer against pop-ups, slow performance, and security threats caused by spyware and other unwanted software. It features Real-Time Protection, a monitoring system that recommends actions against spyware when it's detected and minimizes interruptions and helps you stay productive. Now with 2 free support incidents for Windows XP and Windows Server 2003.
The program and updates should not beoverloaing your computer memory or make your computer run slower.
SD - 30 May 2008 06:31 GMT Thank you for your answer renegade. I will turn off windows defender. thanks again.
> > Hi, > > I am not sure if i have to keep Window Defender in ON. It came with Windows [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > The program and updates should not beoverloaing your computer memory or make > your computer run slower. Nonny - 30 May 2008 01:35 GMT >Hi, >I am not sure if i have to keep Window Defender in ON. It came with Windows >Vista. You have to keep it but you don't have to let it run.
You can disable it by going into
Control Panel (Classic View)
Administrative Tools
Services
Find Windows Defender and disable it, then stop it.
>I have already a antivirus AVG 8.0 with all options activate. >Could you please tell me, if in some way the updates from microsoft (Windows >Defender) could overload my computer's memory?. or make it slower?. >Thank you for your answer. SD - 30 May 2008 06:39 GMT Thank you Nonny, it was amazing!!!. I didn't know how disable it. I did it, so i hope my AVG (antivirus) takes control to my PC. Thanks again.
> >Hi, > >I am not sure if i have to keep Window Defender in ON. It came with Windows [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > >Defender) could overload my computer's memory?. or make it slower?. > >Thank you for your answer. Alias - 31 May 2008 20:21 GMT > Thank you Nonny, it was amazing!!!. I didn't know how disable it. I did it, > so i hope my AVG (antivirus) takes control to my PC. > Thanks again. One would hope that YOU are in control of your PC. Course, running Vista isn't really the right step in that direction. Note that the icon says "Computer" now, not "*MY* Computer".
Alias
>>> Hi, >>> I am not sure if i have to keep Window Defender in ON. It came with Windows [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] >>> Defender) could overload my computer's memory?. or make it slower?. >>> Thank you for your answer. Charles W Davis - 30 May 2008 01:56 GMT > Hi, > I am not sure if i have to keep Window Defender in ON. It came with [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Defender) could overload my computer's memory?. or make it slower?. > Thank you for your answer. No you can disable and stop it as described by others. However, if you do you will probably be back later asking how you can clean up your system. Much easier to keep it clean.
SD - 30 May 2008 06:45 GMT Hi Charles, thank you for your Answer. I stoped Window Defender. But, are you telling me that do i need clean my system?...how is that?. Thank you.
> > Hi, > > I am not sure if i have to keep Window Defender in ON. It came with [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > you will probably be back later asking how you can clean up your system. > Much easier to keep it clean. Nonny - 30 May 2008 08:51 GMT >Hi Charles, thank you for your Answer. >I stoped Window Defender. But, are you telling me that do i need clean my >system?...how is that?. >Thank you. Charles apparently is one of those who thinks you need to have several programs running as protection. He is predicting that you will run afoul of malware and be back here crying for help on how to remove it.
You've got AVG 8.0. You'll be fine.
>> > Hi, >> > I am not sure if i have to keep Window Defender in ON. It came with [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >> you will probably be back later asking how you can clean up your system. >> Much easier to keep it clean. SD - 30 May 2008 19:38 GMT Ok, thank you Nonny. I didn't have problems....i hope don't have it. hehehehe by the way...this community is really helpful. Thanks again. Have a nice day.
> >Hi Charles, thank you for your Answer. > >I stoped Window Defender. But, are you telling me that do i need clean my [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > >> you will probably be back later asking how you can clean up your system. > >> Much easier to keep it clean. Donald L McDaniel - 30 May 2008 21:18 GMT >Hi, >I am not sure if i have to keep Window Defender in ON. It came with Windows [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >Defender) could overload my computer's memory?. or make it slower?. >Thank you for your answer. 1) It is not necessary to use Windows Defender in Vista. 2) Windows Defender may be uninstalled, if you wish. 3) DON'T USE IT, anyway. I like to call it "Windows STOPPER", rather than "Windows Defender", since it seems to stop more legitimate programs from running than illegitimate ones. 3) The Updates do require a minimum amount of free ram to run. 4) The only way your "RAM" could get "overloaded" is if your system simply doen't have enough RAM to use Windows Update. 5) Your computer will definitely slow down if you don't have enough Disk space, or if your computer hasn't got adequate RAM to run effortlessly.
6) If you mean "will the updates from Microsoft, once installed, overload your memory, the answer is "NO", since if there is not enough physical RAM to accomplish the task at hand, Windows will page memory to disk (i.e., "Virtual memory"). 7) Memory paging to disk WILL slow your computer down, since it will take longer to access the data which has been paged to disk, physical memory access being much faster than disk access.
Vista wants as MUCH PHYSICAL MEMORY as your machine can handle. I advise you to "max-out" your memory slots (use the largest, fastest memory sticks your motherboard is able to use.)
Also, when using Windows Update, ALWAYS disable ALL anti-malware programs until the updates are installed (even if you have to uninstall your Anti-virus program, and reinstall it once the updates are installed). Not all AV programs may be temporarily unloaded from memory, so such programs will have to be uninstalled while using Windows Update.
Additionally, while you can do it, I do not advise running any other programs while using Windows Update, so make sure they are not loaded and running during that time.
Donald L McDaniel Please reply to the original newsgroup and thread. ========================================================
SD - 31 May 2008 03:36 GMT Hi Donald,
Thank you for the information, i think i understand a little better about it. But something wierd happened today. I stoped Windows Defender the last night. So, today when i started my laptop, i saw that it is running again in my computer. Why?. Do i have to stop it again every time that i turn on my laptop?. I followed the steps that Nonny told me in his answer. But it is again running my laptop, why is that?. I don't want uninstall it, just i want it disable. Thank you for your help.
> >Hi, > >I am not sure if i have to keep Window Defender in ON. It came with Windows [quoted text clipped - 43 lines] > Please reply to the original newsgroup and thread. > ======================================================== Nonny - 31 May 2008 03:46 GMT >Hi Donald, > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >I don't want uninstall it, just i want it disable. >Thank you for your help. When you went to Administrative Services and stopped it, did you also disable it? Doesn't look like it.
>> >Hi, >> >I am not sure if i have to keep Window Defender in ON. It came with Windows [quoted text clipped - 43 lines] >> Please reply to the original newsgroup and thread. >> ======================================================== Donald L McDaniel - 31 May 2008 19:36 GMT >Hi Donald, > [quoted text clipped - 51 lines] >> programs while using Windows Update, so make sure they are not loaded >> and running during that time. Here's how to completely disable the Service, "SD":
1) Click on Windows ORB (i.e., the "Start Button"). 2) Click on "All Programs" 3) Click on "Administrative Tools" 4) Choose "Services" from popup menu. 5) When "Services" opens, go down towards the bottom of the list, where "Windows Defender" is listed. 6) Double-Click on "Windows Defender". 7) Once Properties page opens, navigate to the drop-down list beside "Startup Type". 8) Click on the small arrow beside the drop-down list to open it. 9) Choose "Disabled" as the Startup type. 10) Click on "Apply", then "Ok".
Result: No more Windows Defender.
To reverse this and turn Windows Defender back on, simply choose "Startup Type" of "Automatic", then click on "Apply", then "Start" (NOT the Windows Orb on the TaskBar), then "Ok".
Donald L McDaniel Please reply to the original newsgroup and thread. ========================================================
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