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Windows Forum / Windows Vista / General Topics / June 2009Can I reuse Vista if I upgrade my case?
I have a prebuilt HP computer that came with Vista home Premium installed. The airflow in the case isn't what I want it to be, but I like everything else. I'm thinking about moving the whole nine yards to a bigger case with room for a couple more fans. I'd like to avoid the expense of buying an operating system I already have, tho. If I reuse the same motherboard, won't I be OK from a licensing standpoint?  SignatureBest, Wm. E > I have a prebuilt HP computer that came with Vista home Premium installed. > The airflow in the case isn't what I want it to be, but I like everything > else. I'm thinking about moving the whole nine yards to a bigger case with > room for a couple more fans. I'd like to avoid the expense of buying an > operating system I already have, tho. If I reuse the same motherboard, won't > I be OK from a licensing standpoint? Changing the case won't affect *anything*. You won't have to reinstall Windows or worry about buying a new operating system. That said, HP makes weird cases so make sure that the innards will fit properly into the new case. Alias > I have a prebuilt HP computer that came with Vista home Premium installed. > The airflow in the case isn't what I want it to be, but I like everything > else. I'm thinking about moving the whole nine yards to a bigger case with > room for a couple more fans. I'd like to avoid the expense of buying an > operating system I already have, tho. If I reuse the same motherboard, won't > I be OK from a licensing standpoint? If you can find a case to fit, yes, you should be OK. SignatureBruce Chambers Help us help you: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/555375 They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand Russell The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has killed a great many philosophers. ~ Denis Diderot I've heard that M$ is being pretty lenient with Vista purchasers and allowing stretching the license a bit to keep users from coming down even harder than they already are with Vista. If you have problems activating after reinstalling I would contact M$ via phone and explain what you are doing and you will likely get a new reg key for your troubles. Signaturelocoeng Vista Ultimate 32/64 bit dual boot Gigabyte EP35 DS3R XFX GeForce 8600GT Corsair 520HX G.Skill DDR II 800 X2 gigs Seagate 120GB (IDE) X2 WD 750 (SATA) Samsung SH203B SBO3 patched codeking Pioneer 215L patched MCSE NEC/Optiarc 7200S 1.06bt Liggy&Dee Lite-On 20A1L BL06 -FB FBL EOS EOHT 6- > I've heard that M$ is being pretty lenient with Vista purchasers and > allowing stretching the license a bit to keep users from coming down > even harder than they already are with Vista. If you have problems > activating after reinstalling I would contact M$ via phone and explain > what you are doing and you will likely get a new reg key for your > troubles. Man, your entire post is not true. Vista is stricter than XP and changing a case will not affect the Vista install one iota. Where did you get your information, a cracker jack box? Alias Why in the world would he have any need to reactivate? He is just changing the case for heaven's sake. You don't really think he will have to upgrade his case driver do you? :) > I've heard that M$ is being pretty lenient with Vista purchasers and > allowing stretching the license a bit to keep users from coming down > even harder than they already are with Vista. If you have problems > activating after reinstalling I would contact M$ via phone and explain > what you are doing and you will likely get a new reg key for your > troubles. > Why in the world would he have any need to reactivate? He is just > changing the case for heaven's sake. You don't really think he will > have to upgrade his case driver do you? :) Yes, I have had to reactivate Vista at least twice simply because Microsoft said so, all I did ws turn the machine off and back on again, so do not ridicule the OP for what is a MICROSOFT PROBLEM. You cannot run a business by continually calling legitimate purchasers thieves and liars... Microsoft have officially called me a thief on a number of occasions, I know I am not and it does not bother me, but many people it does bother and frankly if Ballmer chose to do that in person he might well regret doing so. The OP is right to ask, it is a legitimate question because the smallest change in configuration used to trigger it. Lucky you if you have not experienced it. Things seem to have improved a lot, I hope so, but in < 5 minutes I can be back here using Ubuntu or Debian with no such worries, why? Because Ballmer is not allowed to deactivate me is why. >> Why in the world would he have any need to reactivate? He is just >> changing the case for heaven's sake. You don't really think he will have [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > back here using Ubuntu or Debian with no such worries, why? Because > Ballmer is not allowed to deactivate me is why. There is no problem with the system working in a different case. As long as it all fits in. The working parts are all the same. But the Vista COA and licence Key is stuck to the case so the question is is it legal to change the case. Or is the case the only thing you can't replace? > There is no problem with the system working in a different case. As long > as it all fits in. The working parts are all the same. But the Vista COA > and licence Key is stuck to the case so the question is is it legal to > change the case. Or is the case the only thing you can't replace? A pair of tin snips and a little epoxy will have that old Key stuck on the new case in no time. :o) Transfer them to the new case if you can or copy them and affix the copy. The case does not figure into what constitutes a different computer. If you rewrap a loaf of bread it is still a loaf of bread. >>> Why in the world would he have any need to reactivate? He is just >>> changing the case for heaven's sake. You don't really think he will [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > and licence Key is stuck to the case so the question is is it legal to > change the case. Or is the case the only thing you can't replace? Most of the time a little heat from a blow dryer or such will allow the sticker to peel, and I always have a roll of clear plastic tape on hand for sealing boxes, moving stickers...LOL >>> Why in the world would he have any need to reactivate? He is just >>> changing the case for heaven's sake. You don't really think he will [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > and licence Key is stuck to the case so the question is is it legal to > change the case. Or is the case the only thing you can't replace? >> Why in the world would he have any need to reactivate? He is just >> changing the case for heaven's sake. You don't really think he will have [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > change in configuration used to trigger it. Lucky you if you have not > experienced it. Personally, i bought an OEM copy of Vista and after installing it on one pc, upgraded to a quad-core pc with only one hard drive moving over (now D:), re-installed Vista and didn't do anything different from the first time i installed it. I've since added more drives, changed graphics cards, upgraded BIOS, changed this and that and Vista has never once said anything about hainv to reactivate anything. Although i have to ask how a piece of plastic that is only connected to the actual pc by 4 screws would ever trigger anything. Unless the pc has motion sensors? >>> Why in the world would he have any need to reactivate? He is just >>> changing the case for heaven's sake. You don't really think he will [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > the actual pc by 4 screws would ever trigger anything. Unless the pc > has motion sensors? My point is that I did NOTHING at all and had to reactivate on two occasions with two PCs. That sounds familiar, all I did was move the RAM to different slots. I have 2 1GB sticks and 2 512MB sticks. Once I figured out how the RAM had to be arranged to make the double data rate actually work, I moved one stick from each bank to a slot on the other bank. It was 1GB each bank1 slot 1 & 2 and 512MB bank 2 slot 1 & 2. Now it is 1GB in bank 1, slot 1 and 1GB in bank 2, slot 1 and 512MB in bank 1, slot 2 and bank 2, slot 2. To me that is counter intuitive, but that is the way it is designed. When I rebooted, I had to reactivate. 15 minutes on the phone for no good reason is 15 too many... >>>> Why in the world would he have any need to reactivate? He is just >>>> changing the case for heaven's sake. You don't really think he will [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > My point is that I did NOTHING at all and had to reactivate on two > occasions with two PCs. You shouldn't have to do anything at all just move everything and press the on button, everything else should be in the same condition. Signaturevdesai Moving your internal hardware to a different computer case will not affect your Windows Vista activation status in the least bit. SignatureCarey Frisch Microsoft MVP Windows Desktop Experience - Windows Vista Enthusiast --------------------------------------------------------------- I have a prebuilt HP computer that came with Vista home Premium installed. The airflow in the case isn't what I want it to be, but I like everything else. I'm thinking about moving the whole nine yards to a bigger case with room for a couple more fans. I'd like to avoid the expense of buying an operating system I already have, tho. If I reuse the same motherboard, won't I be OK from a licensing standpoint? SignatureBest, Wm. E Carey Frisch [MVP] wrote: > Moving your internal hardware to a different computer > case will not affect your Windows Vista activation status > in the least bit. Should not, you cannot say "Will Not" when simply turning off the PC can trigger it. It has happened at least twice to me for no reason at all, just because you have not seen it does not mean it doesn't happen. If the OP just happens to plug a drive into a different connector then who knows? I am not being confrontational, but there have been numerous errors in the activation model and it still isn't right, it has been relaxed I think because people complain. > Carey Frisch [MVP] wrote: >> Moving your internal hardware to a different computer [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > errors in the activation model and it still isn't right, it has been > relaxed I think because people complain. You stupid stiff upper lip and stiff ironing board back *clown* are you still in the US running your big stiff mouth somewhere in Idaho or did you get your stiff/tight butt chicks kicked back to England? What does a computer case have to do with product activation....absolutely nothing! It's external to the internal hardware and has no hardware identification number that the operating system can identify! Windows Vista Activation FAQ http://www.microsoft.com/windows/products/windowsvista/buyorupgrade/activationfa q.mspx SignatureCarey Frisch Microsoft MVP Windows Desktop Experience - Windows Vista Enthusiast --------------------------------------------------------------- Carey Frisch [MVP] wrote: > Moving your internal hardware to a different computer > case will not affect your Windows Vista activation status > in the least bit. Should not, you cannot say "Will Not" when simply turning off the PC can trigger it. It has happened at least twice to me for no reason at all, just because you have not seen it does not mean it doesn't happen. If the OP just happens to plug a drive into a different connector then who knows? I am not being confrontational, but there have been numerous errors in the activation model and it still isn't right, it has been relaxed I think because people complain. Carey Frisch [MVP] wrote: > What does a computer case have to do with > product activation....absolutely nothing! [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Windows Vista Activation FAQ > http://www.microsoft.com/windows/products/windowsvista/buyorupgrade/activationfa q.mspx My point is that if merely turning a computer off can trigger the issue then "Won't Happen" is not necessarily true. "Should not happen" maybe, of course it should not. The OP may unintentionally make a change that "Could" trigger it. I use removable drive trays and placing a drive in the wrong tray can set it off. I am not complaining, merely saying that it can happen and therefore comes as a surprize when really nothing has changed. You hit a bug, that's all. About a year ago there was a bug that caused a few folks to have to reactivate for simply upgrading a driver. No hardware involved at all but the software mistook a driver change for a hardware change. That apparently got sorted. > Carey Frisch [MVP] wrote: >> What does a computer case have to do with [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > I am not complaining, merely saying that it can happen and therefore comes > as a surprize when really nothing has changed. > If I reuse the same motherboard, won't I be OK from a licensing > standpoint? I misread the OP and focused on "keeping the mobo" and assumed there would be additional hardware changes, such as HDD's etc. in which case a reinstall and reactivate would be necessary. Colin Barnhorst Wrote: > > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > upgrade > his case driver do you? :) Let me know if you need case drivers, I have a really good link for you. Signaturelocoeng Vista Ultimate 32/64 bit dual boot Gigabyte EP35 DS3R XFX GeForce 8600GT Corsair 520HX G.Skill DDR II 800 X2 gigs Seagate 120GB (IDE) X2 WD 750 (SATA) Samsung SH203B SBO3 patched codeking Pioneer 215L patched MCSE NEC/Optiarc 7200S 1.06bt Liggy&Dee Lite-On 20A1L BL06 -FB FBL EOS EOHT 6- Got one for this case? (see attachment) I use Java on it. :P >> If I reuse the same motherboard, won't I be OK from a licensing >> standpoint? [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > Let me know if you need case drivers, I have a really good link for > you. > Got one for this case? (see attachment) I use Java on it. :P Got a URL for that coffee maker? :o) Unfortunately, no. But you can use the pic all you want. >> Got one for this case? (see attachment) I use Java on it. :P > > Got a URL for that coffee maker? :o) > Got one for this case? (see attachment) I use Java on it. :P ---------------------------------------- Hahaha...what more could a person want? You can surf the web, email, drink coffee and it even includes a cup holder! :-) Frank They have case drivers on the same website as blinker fluid, board stretchers and striped paint. >> If I reuse the same motherboard, won't I be OK from a licensing >> standpoint? [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > Let me know if you need case drivers, I have a really good link for > you. I know that website! I got my dvd rewinder there. > They have case drivers on the same website as blinker fluid, board > stretchers and striped paint. [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] >> Let me know if you need case drivers, I have a really good link for >> you. If disk detects different hardware it will give an error that it is already installed on another system, and will not activate. Many times due to bios update, new hard disk, etc., I have had to go through this (my version is OEM). Simply call Microsoft for activation, tell them you have upgraded your system and they will provide new activation key. Signaturerive0108 Alienware Area-51 M5790 Vista Ultimate x64 sp1 T7600G Core2 Duo 2.33 Ghz (overclocked to 2.66 GHZ) ATI Mobility Radeon x1900 256 MB 1920x1200 WUXGA 4GB DDR2 PC5300 HP digital Tuner express card 200 GB 7200 RPM HDD RAID 0 Catch up with the thread. The OP is only changing the case. > If disk detects different hardware it will give an error that it is > already installed on another system, and will not activate. Many times > due to bios update, new hard disk, etc., I have had to go through this > (my version is OEM). Simply call Microsoft for activation, tell them you > have upgraded your system and they will provide new activation key. > I have a prebuilt HP computer that came with Vista home Premium installed. > The airflow in the case isn't what I want it to be, but I like everything > else. I'm thinking about moving the whole nine yards to a bigger case with > room for a couple more fans. I'd like to avoid the expense of buying an > operating system I already have, tho. If I reuse the same motherboard, won't > I be OK from a licensing standpoint? >> I have a prebuilt HP computer that came with Vista home Premium installed. >> The airflow in the case isn't what I want it to be, but I like everything >> else. I'm thinking about moving the whole nine yards to a bigger case with >> room for a couple more fans. I'd like to avoid the expense of buying an >> operating system I already have, tho. If I reuse the same motherboard, won't >> I be OK from a licensing standpoint? Well, just make sure the motherboard screws only make contact where they should and assuming HP follow the standard all should be well. You are not changing anything so Vista should not know or care what case it is in, but of course you will be stepping out of any warranty you may have. Vista will usually only detect major changes like CPU, Motherboard, the kinds of things that might indicate you had (for example) cloned your drive and tried to use that in a different machine. |
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