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Folder icons lost on taskbar
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Threshold - 23 Aug 2008 01:12 GMT Hi guys,
New kid on the block here (and by saying this I have really shown that I am not a kid any longer).
Anyway.
I am having this problem and I will appreciate anyone who is willing to help.
I have changed icon to several folders in order to easily spot them when I minimize them on the taskbar.
After I open any of the folders with the changed icon and minimize them to the taskbar all is fine and the new icon is shown correctly.
But as soon as I maximize the folder, work on any file inside and than minimize it again the icon shown is the general yellow one with the green arrow pointing up.
Bear in mind that the icon is not lost on the folder customization since it still shows fine in Explorer Window. It is just lost when I minimize it to the taskbar where I would need it the most.
If I close the folder and reopen it the icon is back there on the taskbar as long as I don't touch it.
I have changed the icon either using the Windows method or programs that do it for you but I still have the same problem. One of the vendors of this software told me it's a Vista problem.
Any help on this since I really need help in easily spotting the many folders on my taskbar?
I'm on VISTA HOME PREMIUM SP1 (in Italian if it matters).
Many thanks!
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Threshold - 25 Aug 2008 14:51 GMT Hi Guys,
Anyone at all can help me on this please?
Thank you
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Mack. - 27 Aug 2008 23:34 GMT Yeah, I'm kinda having the same problem, I can't help, but its pissing me off that you and I aren't getting our threads replied to. Where are all the hardcore admins and power users :L
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Paul Montgomery - 28 Aug 2008 00:01 GMT >Yeah, I'm kinda having the same problem, I can't help, but its pissing >me off that you and I aren't getting our threads replied to. Where are >all the hardcore admins and power users :L What do you expect, bozo!? Your first post was 10 freaking minutes ago.
You will DEFINITELY get NO replies if you stay on this tack.
Gary S. Terhune - 28 Aug 2008 01:18 GMT You do NOT have the same problem. Go back to your own thread. I at least have an answer for that.
Then go find your Pop and tell him you need a spanking.
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> Yeah, I'm kinda having the same problem, I can't help, but its pissing > me off that you and I aren't getting our threads replied to. Where are > all the hardcore admins and power users :L Threshold - 28 Aug 2008 01:41 GMT Ok and still what about my problem? Are we doing something wrong so that nobody replies? :confused:
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Gary S. Terhune - 28 Aug 2008 03:52 GMT Mack, as noted, was simply being impatient. As for your post, there are approx. 1000 posts per day in this NG. Most of the worker bees here focus upon issues for which they have an immediate answer or are interested in researching (which is something most of us MVPs, anyway, are most interested in. That's where all the fun comes from.) If we have no answer, and the issue simply isn't within our personally determined perview, the responsible among us don't respond. That way when someone comes along who might have an answer, they aren't put off by some lengthy but wildly irrelevant thread that is engendered by the less responsible among us (lots of wrong answers or just plain stupidity and troll-like arguing,) or they see that a known responsible person has posted to the thread a few times and figure it's handled.
My routine is to refresh all the NGs I participate in, look for new posts in threads where I'm already participating (in the Windows 98 groups that is my primary interest), reply as necessary, then check all the (few) new posts in those groups, then come to this and the XP.General groups and respond to threads where I've already joined in discussion. Once that's all taken care of, I start over. When I'm totally caught up, I start reading new posts in the Vista and XP groups. But it only takes a little time for unread messages in these two groups to number in the hundreds, so I simply mark them all as Read, and then finally review the latest ones for anything I'm interested in. Which is how I happened upon Mack's un-called-for comments, decided to get him started on a solution, anyway, after reading your initial post and thinking bout it in the back of my mind while I worked on his issue, and then, finally, responded directly to your initial post.
Anyway, to answer your question more succinctly, no, you didn't do anything wrong. As I said in the other reply, I think it's just a bug in Vista that may or may not be able to be fixed in the future (if it's not Explorer itself, it's likely some part of IE), and that you should simply re-post it every month or two until someone sees it who knows what's what. Your issue is so unique that I don't think anyone else has probably ever come across it, but you never know. Regardless, you should definitely follow through with a bug report via the second link I provided in my other reply.
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> Ok and still what about my problem? > Are we doing something wrong so that nobody replies? :confused: Mack. - 28 Aug 2008 07:13 GMT Like wtf man?
Then go find your Pop and tell him you need a spanking.
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Gary S. Terhune - 28 Aug 2008 08:08 GMT Like your post was downright stupid. And incredibly RUDE to those of us who donate our support services for FREE to everyone, even loudmouthed jerks like you. As Paul pointed out, your idiotic "me too" whining came only minutes after you posted your own problem. And your issue has absolutely nothing in common with Threshold's.
Your post here shows you to be you a loser/brat/etc./etc. who deserves a good walloping! Or maybe that's your problem? Were you physically abused while you were growing up? Poor boy...
Anyway, if you can't see what a ridiculous post the above was, if you can't cop to the total idiocy of it, not to mention the RUDENESS!, then you're too stupid and brutish to perform intricate, complicated and potentially disastrous computer procedures that I or anyone else here might suggest. Might as well turn your face to the wall (oh, wait, that's another one of those abuse things, isn't it?)
Own up to your temporary(?) stupidity and especially to your absolute RUDENESS, or go away. Because the only assistance you're likely to get after this is from people who know even less than you do.
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> Like wtf man? > > Then go find your Pop and tell him you need a spanking. Threshold - 28 Aug 2008 14:32 GMT All righty,
First of all people please don't engage in silly fights but if you really feel the urge to, please don't do it in my first thread. Now it's all messed up :mad:
Anyway :)
GARY S. TERHUNE Thanks for your first reply I will send a bug report. I think we must have posted at the same time or something since I did not see it otherwise I wouldn't have written the following post.
Your other reply is too difficult and full of acronyms for me to fully grasp but I think I have to wait and I did nothing wrong. I was not being impatient but I really thought I missed some info or something and that being the reason nobody was replying. Mack post spurred my reaction.
As for the bug, browsing through other threads I found something. If you have the left pane open in the folder the icons will not show on the taskbar but instead you get the green pointed up arrow. If the left pane is closed you get the icon but, well, you miss the chance to quickly move amongst folders and move items.
Let me know if you can replicate this.
I still think it's a bug or downright silly if this is the intended behaviour. In the meanwhile I found myself a little software that allows tabbed browsing in Explorer windows. It's a bit tricky to install and could use better support and help pages but if it's not forbidden I can post the link to it.
MARYPOPPINS wow what an honour and thanks for the link it's useful (although for other matters) :)
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Gary S. Terhune - 29 Aug 2008 02:45 GMT > All righty, > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > I think we must have posted at the same time or something since I did > not see it otherwise I wouldn't have written the following post. Not sure what you're saying, but I only saw this thread because of Mack's post. More than a few shades of karma in that one, I can tell you.
> Your other reply is too difficult and full of acronyms for me to fully > grasp but I think I have to wait and I did nothing wrong. > I was not being impatient but I really thought I missed some info or > something and that being the reason nobody was replying. > Mack post spurred my reaction. I don't like leaving you wondering. What acronyms or phrases, etc., did you not understand?
> As for the bug, browsing through other threads I found something. > If you have the left pane open in the folder the icons will not show on [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > I still think it's a bug or downright silly if this is the intended > behaviour. I doubt it's intended. Perhaps *necessary* in order to avoid bigger problems, and most probably the unintended side-effect of some bit of code that if you knew what it was you'd say, "Well, I like that, too." In short, a "bug".
> In the meanwhile I found myself a little software that allows tabbed > browsing in Explorer windows. > It's a bit tricky to install and could use better support and help > pages but if it's not forbidden I can post the link to it. It's not forbidden to post links to information or utilities you've tried out and found useful, provided there's no hint of you personally benefitting (i.e., you're not selling it.) Otherwise it would be considered SPAM. However, it is precisely these kinds applications (tabbed Explorer? Whoa!) that are FULL of uninstended consequences. While I think your original issue is a bug, and I strongly recommend that you do what you can to report it as such to MS, it could *also* be the unintended consequence of another application's presence.
If I get bored today, or tomotrrow or whatever, I'll see if I can replicate it on my reasonably pristine Vista test installation. If I can, I'll let you know, and maybe even see about officially bugging it with Microsoft through other channels. Problem is, my installation isn't *totally* pristine, and to file an honest bug report, I'd have to flatten and reinstall to see if it still happens, and if not, repeat my previous installation of apps and see which one triggers the behavior. In short, don't expect any answers from me any time soon, or ever, for that matter.
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Gary S. Terhune - 31 Aug 2008 23:00 GMT Threshold,
I did replicate your issue, but only in two instances. I'm sure I could keep playing, but it's not as simple and straightforward as you report.
I created 6 folders on the desktop and gave them distinctive icons. Opened them all, maximized the first, created and added text to a TXT file, saved it, and the icon changed just as you said (can't recall if it was at the time of saving or upon normalizing the size of the window.)
But then I couldn't get any of the other folders to repeat the behavior no matter how many different way I tried it. So I closed them all, opened them all again, and still could not repeat the behavior, until I accidentally opened WMP in the tray instead of Windows Mail. I knew what I'd done and closed WMP before it half finished opening, really, then looked down to see *all* of the folders had switched to that icon of the folder with upward-pointing arrow.
It's a bug, no doubt, but as to it's source, that would take an awful lot of testing. I can't say if it's strictly a Vista bug, as opposed to being caused by some 3rd-party addition, without installing a fresh copy and that's not something I want to do right now. Maybe next week. (I *do* have to flatten this one soon.) If it *is* strictly a Vista bug, you'll just have to hope to get lucky and run into the person who can explain it based upon past experience and a lot of time in the NGs, or even an MSFT or beta tester (who isn't constrained by an NDA) who noticed it, bugged it, perhaps even determined the source of the issue. I can't say because while I signed up for those programs, and occasionally played with a build for a day or two, my bad health kept me from full participation.
Or MS may not even know about it. So, after I've tested on a fresh installations of various versions of Vista, starting with the most minimal install of the most basic versions, then working through additions of features, upgrades, etc., until I run into the behavior again, then I'll pass this thread along to my Lead (MVP Program primary contact for my section) and see if it goes anywhere from there. A KB article, if nothing else, if it turns out to be caused by certain specific conditions that a user might conceivably want to avoid.
What I'd like to know is just what that icon of the folder with the upward-pointing arrow is intended to signify, though it's possible, too, that it's being that icon is entirely coincidental.
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> All righty, > [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > MARYPOPPINS wow what an honour and thanks for the link it's useful > (although for other matters) :) Threshold - 02 Sep 2008 14:47 GMT Hello Gary,
Thank you for your extensive replies and your effort.
As for the acronyms I generally don't understand any :) And anyway you write very well with not so common words which makes it a little more difficult for me to understand.
As for the application I was mentioning i don't get anything from it and am not associated to it in anyway. As I said it is less than perfect and with it's good share of bugs but it lets me circumvent my problem at present and it does remove folder clutter from your bar. Anyone interested: 'QuizoApps: QTTabBar' (http://qttabbar.wikidot.com/)
I am surprised you couldn't replicate the problem with all folders. It occurs on my system on every instances so it might be conflicting with something or be the result of the mucking around with absolutely no knowledge I have been doing :D
The only thing I can say is that to replicate it you need to move to a subfoder or upper folder within the main folder you are testing and than minimize it.
Did you also check with and without the left pane (Organize-Layout-Moving Pane(? I am guessing at the names since my os is in Italian)). Anyway without the left pane in the folder icons stay always put.
Well if it's a bug I sure hope it will be fixed since it really reduces productivity but don't count much on it seeing Windows 7 already on the horizon.
Thank you!
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Gary S. Terhune - 28 Aug 2008 01:39 GMT I wouldn't hold your breath. I can't be 100% certain, but it looks and acts like something that can't be changed. A bug, if you want to call it that. Something for Microsoft Feedback: http://wfp.microsoft.com/ (Currently the program are closed, but there's a sign-up for when it opens again.)
But this one is still gets active attention, I think: https://feedback.windowsvista.microsoft.com/default.aspx?productkey=winvista&mkt =en-us&backurl=http://support.microsoft.com/gp/cpbeta_vista_master
TinyURL for the above is http://tinyurl.com/5fhdhb
You might also re-post the issue every month or so, just to keep it in the public eye. Never know when someone will come along and say, "Hey, I know about that one!"
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> Hi guys, > [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] > > Many thanks! marrypoppins - 28 Aug 2008 01:49 GMT '=Taskbar%20Start%20Menu\"]http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/?filter[11]=Taskbar%20Start%20Menu' (http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/?filter[11) see if any of these tutorials are what your looking for.
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Mack. - 28 Aug 2008 07:12 GMT Gary wtf? are you retarded...
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Gary S. Terhune - 28 Aug 2008 08:09 GMT That, from YOU? ROTFLMAO!!!
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> Gary wtf? are you retarded... Nabeelt - 28 Aug 2008 10:12 GMT Hi, I am also having the same problem in my work.. can any one help to sort out this problem
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Gary S. Terhune - 28 Aug 2008 23:14 GMT Not here. Please go start a new thread and describe your problem there. If there really *is* an answer out there, the more threads asking about it, the more likely someone who knows how to fix it will see them and have an answer, whether it is a solution or someone who knows for sure that it can't be fixed. But as you will have noticed, if you actually have read the entire thread, you may *think* you have the same problem, but that doesn't necessarily make it so.
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> Hi, > I am also having the same problem in my work.. can any one help to sort > out this problem
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