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the granter of sina - 04 Oct 2008 11:51 GMT 1) First of all its expensive, in some countries vista ulitmate costs 700 us dollars!
2) it needs a new fast computer for it to run well enough to use
3) you often need to throw away perfectly functioning peripherals because stupid vista cant use the XP drivers and then you have to buy new ones
4) you often need to throw away perfectly functioning software because vista-crapista is no longer compatible with them.
5) you lost valuable time and energy just to get stupid vista to work
6) it then takes up more energy for it to function thrashing the disks all the time, needing 3d accelerated graphic cards for aero that gobble up the watts and making the cpus work harder (yes the more the cpu works the more energy it uses). The PSU (power supply units) have jumped from 250-350 watts to 500 watts or more for a stupid computer than can run vista.
7) Having all that crap in an era where people are out of jobs, the economy is in a crisis and credit is harder to get.... having all that vista-energy waste when global warming threatens to destroy civilization is a crime to humanity.
Vista is a dinosaur product. It should be canceled and buried and forgotten. Its also incredibly stupid design and made and loved by retarded monkeys ONLY!
Vista Cabal - 04 Oct 2008 12:58 GMT > 1) First of all its expensive, in some countries vista ulitmate costs 700 us > dollars! Get yourself $US 700.00 specifically to buy Vista.
> 2) it needs a new fast computer for it to run well enough to use Get yourself a fast computer.
> 3) you often need to throw away perfectly functioning peripherals because stupid > vista cant use the XP drivers > and then you have to buy new ones No, just download the Vista drivers and the user will not need to purchase new periferals. The stupid user will.
> 4) you often need to throw away perfectly functioning software because > vista-crapista is no longer compatible with them. Vista is compatible, don't know about Crapista though, is that some kind of thing you speak? Eat?
> 5) you lost valuable time and energy just to get stupid vista to work Got it the first go, perfierals and all. Then all times after that I've installed it for others.
> 6) it then takes up more energy for it to function thrashing the disks all the > time, needing 3d accelerated graphic cards for aero that gobble up the watts > and making the cpus work harder (yes the more the cpu works the more energy it > uses). The PSU (power supply units) have jumped from 250-350 watts to 500 watts > or more for a stupid computer than can run vista.
> 7) Having all that crap in an era where people are out of jobs, the economy is > in a crisis and credit is harder to get.... > having all that vista-energy waste when global warming threatens to destroy > civilization is a crime to humanity. Since stupid people complain about something like Vista, instead of oil speculators, market speculators, not asking how much a war is going to cost before engaging in it, inflating currency, watching TV instead discussing politics, economics, and religion. It's more your fault than Vista's.
> Vista is a dinosaur product. It should be canceled and buried and forgotten. Its > also incredibly stupid design and made and loved by retarded monkeys ONLY! Then make it happen. Show us your not just a 'retarded monkey'.
- Vista Cabal.
the granter of sina - 04 Oct 2008 13:09 GMT >and loved by retarded monkeys ONLY! that would include you
>> 1) First of all its expensive, in some countries vista ulitmate costs 700 >> us dollars! [quoted text clipped - 48 lines] > > - Vista Cabal. Vista Cabal - 04 Oct 2008 13:13 GMT > >and loved by retarded monkeys ONLY! > > that would include you No, it's only your fantasy, I shall leave the both of you to it.
- Vista Cabal
Warren DesJardins - 04 Oct 2008 20:25 GMT >> 1) First of all its expensive, in some countries vista ulitmate costs 700 >> us dollars! [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >> 3) you often need to throw away perfectly functioning peripherals because >> stupid
>> vista cant use the XP drivers >> and then you have to buy new ones > > No, just download the Vista drivers and the user will not need to purchase > new periferals. The stupid user will. And just WHAT Vista drivers do I download so my Epsom Scanner and Photo Editing and printing programs work?
>> 4) you often need to throw away perfectly functioning software because >> vista-crapista is no longer compatible with them. > > Vista is compatible, don't know about Crapista though, is that some kind > of thing you speak? Eat? How is it made compatible with scanners and printers and editing software?
>> 5) you lost valuable time and energy just to get stupid vista to work > [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > > Then make it happen. Show us your not just a 'retarded monkey'. Not everyone is a geek or computerliterate like those who hang out on NGs like this, or who write software programs. Why didn't you tell him, us, what Vista drivers are needed to make older perf's work? How about the MS URL where we can find them?
> - Vista Cabal. Paul Montgomery - 04 Oct 2008 22:41 GMT >And just WHAT Vista drivers do I download so my Epsom Scanner and Photo >Editing and printing programs work? Can you find "Twain 5" anywhere? That's what I'm using. My 640U software doesn't work, but I never used that anyway.
I use my scanner mostly with Photoshop and with Omnipage so I don't need that software. Heck, I can even get my image using Irfanview.
Faxing? Get an inexpensive fax program like Snappy Fax to do the work.
Warren DesJardins - 05 Oct 2008 04:15 GMT >>And just WHAT Vista drivers do I download so my Epsom Scanner and Photo >>Editing and printing programs work? > > Can you find "Twain 5" anywhere? That's what I'm using. My 640U > software doesn't work, but I never used that anyway. Where would I find "twain 5" for a Epson 1200u scanner? Epson doesn't have them and other sites state W98 compatible twain 5s.
> I use my scanner mostly with Photoshop and with Omnipage so I don't > need that software. Heck, I can even get my image using Irfanview. Using an an Epson 1200u? My scanner wont work without the Epson software on the PC and the software doesn't work on Vista.
> Faxing? Get an inexpensive fax program like Snappy Fax to do the > work. I don't fax.
Paul Montgomery - 05 Oct 2008 04:52 GMT >> Can you find "Twain 5" anywhere? That's what I'm using. My 640U >> software doesn't work, but I never used that anyway. > >Where would I find "twain 5" for a Epson 1200u scanner? Epson doesn't have >them and other sites state W98 compatible twain 5s. BULLSHIT!
D I D Y O U E V E N T R Y T O L O O K ? ? ? ? ?
I found it on my FIRST try... took maybe 20 freaking seconds.
Vista Cabal - 04 Oct 2008 22:43 GMT And just WHAT Vista drivers do I download so my Epsom Scanner and Photo Editing and printing programs work?
Did you take it up with Epsom? What did they say?
> How is it made compatible with scanners and printers and editing software? Let me print something... Now I shall scan something.... Don't know the how and why of compatiblity, must be something to do with the driver.
> Not everyone is a geek or computerliterate like those who hang out on NGs like > this, or who write software programs. Why didn't you tell him, us, what Vista > drivers are needed to make older perf's work? How about the MS URL where we can > find them? Enter the specific perfs in Google, and seek. Such a list would wrap around the Equator, then would you read it? What did MS say about the URL where to find them?
- Vista Cabal.
Warren DesJardins - 05 Oct 2008 04:25 GMT > And just WHAT Vista drivers do I download so my Epsom Scanner and Photo > Editing and printing programs work? > > Did you take it up with Epsom? What did they say? There is nothing on their site to make their 1200u Perfecion scanner work with Vista. See:
http://www.epson.com/cgi-bin/Store/support/supDetail.jsp?BV_UseBVCookie=yes&oid= 14568&prodoid=9921&infoType=Downloads&platform=Windows
There are no email addresses there I could find to contact anyone about a driver not on their website. How can I get my scanner and it's software to work on Vista Home Premium?
>> How is it made compatible with scanners and printers and editing >> software? > > Let me print something... Now I shall scan something.... Don't know the > how and why of compatiblity, must be something to do with the driver. Of course! And there are no drivers I can find to make my Epson or HP printing software work with Vista.
>> Not everyone is a geek or computerliterate like those who hang out on NGs >> like this, or who write software programs. Why didn't you tell him, us, >> what Vista drivers are needed to make older perf's work? How about the >> MS URL where we can find them?
> Enter the specific perfs in Google, and seek. Such a list would wrap > around the Equator, then would you read it? > What did MS say about the URL where to find them? How can I get that information? Google didn't bring up any MS sites that covered my scanner or HP printing software.
> - Vista Cabal. DanS - 05 Oct 2008 05:03 GMT > Of course! And there are no drivers I can find to make my Epson or HP > printing software work with Vista. I don't know if this applies still, as it's an old articel, but.....
http://www.annoyances.org/exec/forum/winvista/1157839272?s
Warren DesJardins - 07 Oct 2008 05:13 GMT >> Of course! And there are no drivers I can find to make my Epson or HP >> printing software work with Vista. > > I don't know if this applies still, as it's an old articel, but..... > > http://www.annoyances.org/exec/forum/winvista/1157839272?s I did just that and they will not install. I get a "syntax" error at 31%. It goes no further. How do I get past the "syntax" error to install the drivers?
Vista Cabal - 05 Oct 2008 05:03 GMT > There is nothing on their site to make their 1200u Perfecion scanner work with > Vista. See: [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > not on their website. How can I get my scanner and it's software to work on > Vista Home Premium? Just when one thinks Microsoft is bad, Epsom's worse.
http://www.epson.com/cgi-bin/Store/support/supDetail.jsp?oid=14568&infoType=Downloads
Does not have a Vista Driver, looks like a very good scanner Warren, looking at;
http://windows-vista-updates.blogspot.com/2007/12/epson-scanner-driver-for-windo ws-vista.html
doen't seem Epsom have made one as yet. Hope you can get to contact them somehow. It's too good of a scanner to dump.
- Vista Cabal
Warren DesJardins - 07 Oct 2008 05:15 GMT >> There is nothing on their site to make their 1200u Perfecion scanner work >> with Vista. See: [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > doen't seem Epsom have made one as yet. Hope you can get to contact them > somehow. It's too good of a scanner to dump. It's not only an excellent scanner but the Adobe Photo Deluxe that came with it is irreplaceable. That wont work on Vista either.
> - Vista Cabal the granter of sina - 05 Oct 2008 15:37 GMT im not sure If this applies to you but some have been able to make their scanners work using a software called: vuscan
http://www.hamrick.com/vsm.html
>> And just WHAT Vista drivers do I download so my Epsom Scanner and Photo >> Editing and printing programs work? [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > >> - Vista Cabal. Warren DesJardins - 07 Oct 2008 05:20 GMT > im not sure If this applies to you but some have been able to make their > scanners work using a software called: > vuscan > > http://www.hamrick.com/vsm.html This is total crap. I bought it for $40 and it's the worst software I ever used. The scanner works but the photo editing software is almost useless. We would have to burn the scanned pics to RW-CDs and download them to the old XP machine to use AdobePhotoDeluxe. We moved the scanner back to the back office and kissed the $40 goodbye - thanks to Vista. Good money after bad.
>>> And just WHAT Vista drivers do I download so my Epsom Scanner and Photo >>> Editing and printing programs work? [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] >> >>> - Vista Cabal. the granter of sina - 07 Oct 2008 08:24 GMT photo editing software is abundant all over the internet... lots of freeware too
I never install the crap that scanners bundle with the drivers... cheesy bad quality software if you ask me!
>> im not sure If this applies to you but some have been able to make their >> scanners work using a software called: [quoted text clipped - 45 lines] >>> >>>> - Vista Cabal. the granter of sina - 05 Oct 2008 15:39 GMT see this thread http://www.vistax64.com/drivers/119798-lives-old-hp-scsi-scanner-vista-x64.html
>> And just WHAT Vista drivers do I download so my Epsom Scanner and Photo >> Editing and printing programs work? [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > >> - Vista Cabal. the granter of sina - 05 Oct 2008 15:43 GMT AS I SUSPECTED it will work with vuscan if you download it
see the list of supported scanners
http://www.hamrick.com/vuescan/vuescan.htm#epson
>> And just WHAT Vista drivers do I download so my Epsom Scanner and Photo >> Editing and printing programs work? [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > >> - Vista Cabal. Warren DesJardins - 07 Oct 2008 05:21 GMT > AS I SUSPECTED it will work with vuscan if you download it > > see the list of supported scanners See my other post above.
> http://www.hamrick.com/vuescan/vuescan.htm#epson > [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] >> >>> - Vista Cabal. Warren DesJardins - 04 Oct 2008 20:20 GMT > 1) First of all its expensive, in some countries vista ulitmate costs 700 > us dollars! [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > forgotten. Its also incredibly stupid design and made and loved by > retarded monkeys ONLY! No one I know is happy with Vista. Speaking for myself this OS is a scam. My perfectly good scanner wont work with Vista and Epson has no drivers so it can. My photo printing and photo editing software wont work with Vista either. No fix for them either. Vista is as unstable as W98. Lockups and freezes are common and sometimes on Forums the cursor disappears. So far two friends have bought new PCs from Dell who will add XP if you want it instead of the bloated aggravating Vista OS. All the secutiry crap is driving me crazy and I can't find anywhere to turn it off. I'm so sorry I didn't listen to my neighbor and call Dell for a new PC with XP installed.
D. Eth - 04 Oct 2008 20:28 GMT > No one I know is happy with Vista. Speaking for myself this OS is a scam. > My perfectly good scanner wont work with Vista and Epson has no drivers so [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > driving me crazy and I can't find anywhere to turn it off. I'm so sorry I > didn't listen to my neighbor and call Dell for a new PC with XP installed. The people you know couldn't run water, nevermind a PC. You must live near high voltage power lines, railroad tracks, or a garbage dumb.
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Adamd - 04 Oct 2008 20:54 GMT lol what a fail.
Makes me think when stuff like this is posted it is all just spam from some retarded Apple fanboy.
Just sounds to dumb to be true.
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Warren DesJardins - 05 Oct 2008 04:27 GMT > lol what a fail. > > Makes me think when stuff like this is posted it is all just spam from > some retarded Apple fanboy. > > Just sounds to dumb to be true. Why do people like you assume everyone is experienced computer users? I have no interest in Apple PCs.
the granter of sina - 04 Oct 2008 21:10 GMT You are so dumb that you now qualify for stooge number 4!
Ok I know the original stooges were only 3, but hey.. we have so many idiot vista loving dorks in here that we will have to increase the number!
Vista is crap and he is right, go outside .. (you know what outside is don't you? And ask real users of vista what they think about it.) Most if not all the replies you will get will be similar to Warrens.
>> No one I know is happy with Vista. Speaking for myself this OS is a >> scam. My perfectly good scanner wont work with Vista and Epson has no [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > You must live near high voltage power lines, railroad tracks, or a garbage > dumb. Warren DesJardins - 05 Oct 2008 04:32 GMT > You are so dumb that you now qualify for stooge number 4! > > Ok I know the original stooges were only 3, but hey.. we have so many > idiot vista loving dorks in here > that we will have to increase the number! That's most likely because they work for MS in some capacity or they assume everyone is as computer literate as they are. They can't imagine that anyone is new to PCs as they once were. After all, they didn't exit their mother's body with a PC in their hands.
> Vista is crap and he is right, go outside .. (you know what outside is > don't you? And ask real users of vista what they think about it.) > Most if not all the replies you will get will be similar to Warrens. They are clueless as to what outside means.... they're in their little boxes oblivious to the fact others may view Vista a lot differently than they do.
>>> No one I know is happy with Vista. Speaking for myself this OS is a >>> scam. My perfectly good scanner wont work with Vista and Epson has no [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >> You must live near high voltage power lines, railroad tracks, or a >> garbage dumb. Warren DesJardins - 05 Oct 2008 04:26 GMT >> No one I know is happy with Vista. Speaking for myself this OS is a >> scam. My perfectly good scanner wont work with Vista and Epson has no [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > You must live near high voltage power lines, railroad tracks, or a garbage > dumb. Don't assume everyone lives in the slums as you do.
Frank - 04 Oct 2008 20:44 GMT >> 1) First of all its expensive, in some countries vista ulitmate costs >> 700 us dollars! [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] > it off. I'm so sorry I didn't listen to my neighbor and call Dell for a > new PC with XP installed. So why didn't you check first to see if your current hardware/software was compatible with Vista?
the granter of sina - 04 Oct 2008 21:12 GMT Hey moron, I think vista should have a WARNING ribbon on it when it comes as retail or preinstalled on new computers saying:
WARNING- DANGER: THIS CRAP PRODUCT MAY BE INCOMPATIBLE WITH EVERYTHING ELSE YOU OWN! USE AT YOUR OWN RISK!
>>> 1) First of all its expensive, in some countries vista ulitmate costs >>> 700 us dollars! [quoted text clipped - 39 lines] > So why didn't you check first to see if your current hardware/software was > compatible with Vista? Frank - 05 Oct 2008 01:33 GMT Hey moron, I think... ----------------------------------------------------------
No, of course you don't think. You are incomparable of thought or reason or logic. You only do emotion which is the real sign of someone with inferior or sub-standard intellect...IOW's you!
the granter of sina - 05 Oct 2008 02:52 GMT a ribbon tied around your forehead saying you are a total fool and when you start talking sh.t comes out
> Hey moron, I think... > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > No, of course you don't think. You are incomparable of thought or reason > or logic. You only do emotion which is the real sign of someone with > inferior or sub-standard intellect...IOW's you! Warren DesJardins - 05 Oct 2008 04:45 GMT > Hey moron, I think vista should have a WARNING ribbon on it when it comes > as retail or preinstalled on new computers saying: > > WARNING- DANGER: THIS CRAP PRODUCT MAY BE INCOMPATIBLE WITH EVERYTHING > ELSE YOU OWN! > USE AT YOUR OWN RISK! The warning should at least state that "This operating system my necessitate you purchase all new peripherals." It really pisses me off that I have to purchase a new scanner and printer to use with this PC because there are no fixes/drivers for the Epson 1200u scanner, AdobePhotoDeluxe software or for the photo printing feature of my my HP printer. All these things worked perfectly on the old XP machine. And some people here think we shouldn't mind having to pull out another few hundred bucks and just throw out or give away perfectly good printers and scanners.
>>>> 1) First of all its expensive, in some countries vista ulitmate costs >>>> 700 us dollars! [quoted text clipped - 39 lines] >> So why didn't you check first to see if your current hardware/software >> was compatible with Vista? the granter of sina - 05 Oct 2008 11:53 GMT you can run winxp in a virtual machine that supports USB and run your software from inside the virtual machine..
I know its slow... but if you have a fast pc then it's a work around
>> Hey moron, I think vista should have a WARNING ribbon on it when it comes >> as retail or preinstalled on new computers saying: [quoted text clipped - 56 lines] >>> So why didn't you check first to see if your current hardware/software >>> was compatible with Vista? Warren DesJardins - 07 Oct 2008 05:23 GMT > you can run winxp in a virtual machine that supports USB and run your > software from inside the virtual machine.. *What* is a virtual machine? How do I run XP on it?
> I know its slow... but if you have a fast pc then it's a work around > [quoted text clipped - 59 lines] >>>> So why didn't you check first to see if your current hardware/software >>>> was compatible with Vista? the granter of sina - 07 Oct 2008 08:14 GMT in short it's a program that allows you to install XP (in your case) inside Vista and it will be running in a window on your desktop.
Thus on your screen you will see 2 operating systems.
You start the virtual machine application and install xp inside it exactly as if it was a real computer.
you can install vmware server that is free to do this www.vmware.com
After making the first settings for the virtual machine, then go and "add" a USB connection to it.
You can always post here for more help if you need it
>> you can run winxp in a virtual machine that supports USB and run your >> software from inside the virtual machine.. [quoted text clipped - 65 lines] >>>>> So why didn't you check first to see if your current hardware/software >>>>> was compatible with Vista? wind0ws_g33k - 04 Oct 2008 23:36 GMT 1) First of all its expensive, in some countries vista ulitmate costs 700 us dollars! 2) it needs a new fast computer for it to run well enough to use . . . Hmmmm. . . You don't need a new "fast" computer, you need a new computer, even bottom line. Vista, to run smoothly, needs 1GB of RAM, every computer now-a-days, new, has that standard.
3) you often need to throw away perfectly functioning peripherals because stupid vista cant use the XP drivers and then you have to buy new ones That would be because of the hardware manufacturers, not Windows Vista. Microsoft has many universal drivers that will work with most hardware, although they may not be made by the manfacturer.
4) you often need to throw away perfectly functioning software because vista-crapista is no longer compatible with them. See, I think you're using the wrong version on this issue. for your software to work, you need to make sure you have Windows Vista SP1 installed, and that should work with all MODERN software.
5) you lost valuable time and energy just to get stupid vista to work If you managed to get XP to work, I'm pretty sure Vista is no harder in my experience.
6) it then takes up more energy for it to function thrashing the disks all the time, needing 3d accelerated graphic cards for aero that gobble up the watts and making the cpus work harder (yes the more the cpu works the more energy it uses). The PSU (power supply units) have jumped from 250-350 watts to 500 watts or more for a stupid computer than can run vista. So turn 3d accelerated graphics off. Then you'll have the same type of desktop as XP and you'll save energy. Microsoft has more services added to Vista, so all the new tools and gadgets work. To get rid of these extra CPU spikes, you need to disable all the services that you don't need and fix the startup items. Also, power management needs to be configured.
7) Having all that crap in an era where people are out of jobs, the economy is in a crisis and credit is harder to get.... having all that vista-energy waste when global warming threatens to destroy civilization is a crime to humanity. Computers have always costed the same, if anything, dropped in price over the years. Without computers, you wouldn't know squat about global warming, which has to evident proof of existence.
Vista is a dinosaur product. It should be canceled and buried and forgotten. Its also incredibly stupid design and made and loved by retarded monkeys ONLY!
It doesn't have a stupid design, it's design is cutting edge. It's sleeker, more user friendly and safe than XP.
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the granter of sina - 05 Oct 2008 00:07 GMT > It doesn't have a stupid design, it's design is cutting edge. It's > sleeker, more user friendly and safe than XP. Nice little icons and transparent windows does not substitute good design.
Toolbars that cannot be configured, bread crumbs that are non intuitive for the layman, recycle bins that can me deleted, windows that forget the size of their columns and general settings, a search that cant search zit, personal options with choices instead of tabs leading you to more and more widows making everything non centralized, bad way to control the system restore points, totally destroyed interface (or lack of) defragmenter, UAC that is so annoying that people end up either turning it off or pressing OK each time without reading the message, the turn off button that is just an arrow with an idiotic pop up menu (for crying out loud!), Hidden menu toolbars, the inability to add a delete button and up button right on the toolbar, the FOLDER PANE of Windows explorer that moves right and left on its own with no horizontal scroll bar (this is zuper duper stupid), only ONE theme, fonts and colors that look horrible on older CRT monitors straining the eyes and confusing people, complex network center with options here and there that a newbie will feel lost in...
should I go on?????
THIS IS NOT BAD DESIGN... ITS HORRIBLE DESIGN! PATHETIC!
> 1) First of all its expensive, in some countries vista ulitmate costs > 700 us [quoted text clipped - 57 lines] > It doesn't have a stupid design, it's design is cutting edge. It's > sleeker, more user friendly and safe than XP. D. Eth - 05 Oct 2008 00:36 GMT >> It doesn't have a stupid design, it's design is cutting edge. It's >> sleeker, more user friendly and safe than XP. [quoted text clipped - 83 lines] >> It doesn't have a stupid design, it's design is cutting edge. It's >> sleeker, more user friendly and safe than XP. Watch the Ironman BluRay. At least one of the graphic artist uses Vista. If people that talented use Vista, surely a loser like yourself's opinion is only meaningless, irritating, barking.
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Vista Cabal - 05 Oct 2008 00:45 GMT Yes please do go on, and tell us what constitues a good design.
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>> It doesn't have a stupid design, it's design is cutting edge. It's >> sleeker, more user friendly and safe than XP. [quoted text clipped - 82 lines] >> It doesn't have a stupid design, it's design is cutting edge. It's >> sleeker, more user friendly and safe than XP. the granter of sina - 05 Oct 2008 01:04 GMT The Greeks had one word for it "Kalos" beauty in all aspects
this would include every aspect of an OS to be as good as possible.
Holistic design... that's smart, beautiful, intuitive, versatile, efficient in all ways, and with a price that would let more people use it
Could I help microsoft design such a thing YOU CAN BET YOUR ARSE I COULD!
> Yes please do go on, and tell us what constitues a good design. > [quoted text clipped - 88 lines] >>> It doesn't have a stupid design, it's design is cutting edge. It's >>> sleeker, more user friendly and safe than XP. Vista Cabal - 05 Oct 2008 01:26 GMT Agreed betting my arse on it would be "Kalos". What would your contribution be?
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> The Greeks had one word for it "Kalos" beauty in all aspects > [quoted text clipped - 96 lines] >>>> It doesn't have a stupid design, it's design is cutting edge. It's >>>> sleeker, more user friendly and safe than XP. Frank - 05 Oct 2008 01:39 GMT our delusional help desk google jockey wrote:
> The Greeks had one word for it "Kalos" beauty in all aspects > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Could I help microsoft design such a thing YOU CAN BET YOUR ARSE I COULD! ---------------------------------------------------------------- Hahahahahaha...ROTFLMAO!!!!
Warren DesJardins - 05 Oct 2008 04:50 GMT >> It doesn't have a stupid design, it's design is cutting edge. It's >> sleeker, more user friendly and safe than XP. [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > THIS IS NOT BAD DESIGN... ITS HORRIBLE DESIGN! PATHETIC! Like Millennium., if I have the name right (one before XP), I think Vista is a joke and wont be around long unless people are forced to buy it or switch to some other operating system.
>> 1) First of all its expensive, in some countries vista ulitmate costs >> 700 us [quoted text clipped - 57 lines] >> It doesn't have a stupid design, it's design is cutting edge. It's >> sleeker, more user friendly and safe than XP. Paul Montgomery - 05 Oct 2008 05:58 GMT >Like Millennium., if I have the name right (one before XP), I think Vista is >a joke and wont be around long unless people are forced to buy it or switch >to some other operating system. Users like you - who couldn't find a St. Bernard if you were in a phone booth with two of them - always blame Vista for their own stupidity.
+Bob+ - 07 Oct 2008 03:13 GMT >Users like you - who couldn't find a St. Bernard if you were in a >phone booth with two of them - always blame Vista for their own >stupidity. And arrogant putzes who don't have a clue about the real world repeatedly spout their ignorance like Old Faithful spouts water.
Alias - 05 Oct 2008 10:27 GMT > Like Millennium., if I have the name right (one before XP), I think > Vista is a joke and wont be around long unless people are forced to buy > it or switch to some other operating system. Check out Ubuntu at www.ubuntu.com. It's free and will probably run your HP printer and your Epsom scanner.
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Alan316 - 05 Oct 2008 13:10 GMT yea, vista is just like Millennium, bad usability. My HP AIO printer/scanner software for scanning cannot launch after life update! The product is claimed to be vista compliant but in fact it is NOT.
>> Like Millennium., if I have the name right (one before XP), I think Vista >> is a joke and wont be around long unless people are forced to buy it or [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Alias David A. Spicer - 06 Oct 2008 16:30 GMT My daughter needed Vista for school so she installed Vista Ultimate retail on her 4 year old $300 Walmart Chinese desktop special. Vista recognized all hardware and installed appropriate drivers, to include her bottom of the line HP printer, Microsoft wireless mouse and keyboard, and even her webcam which Logitech claims is not Vista compatible. She's been using Vista for almost a week now and loves it. Go figure.
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yea, vista is just like Millennium, bad usability. My HP AIO printer/scanner software for scanning cannot launch after life update! The product is claimed to be vista compliant but in fact it is NOT.
"Alias" <iamalias@REMOVEgmail.com> wrote in message news:gca1ad$asi$1@registered.motzarella.org... > Warren DesJardins wrote: > >> >> Like Millennium., if I have the name right (one before XP), I think Vista >> is a joke and wont be around long unless people are forced to buy it or >> switch to some other operating system. > > Check out Ubuntu at www.ubuntu.com. It's free and will probably run your > HP printer and your Epsom scanner. > > Alias
Warren DesJardins - 07 Oct 2008 05:33 GMT > yea, vista is just like Millennium, bad usability. > My HP AIO printer/scanner software for scanning cannot launch after life [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >> >> Alias Just visit all the other Vista newsgroups and see the problems people are having with this OS. Also, I don't see why changes had to be made that made old software and hardware unusable. That alone would piss the average person off.
Frank - 07 Oct 2008 06:20 GMT >> yea, vista is just like Millennium, bad usability. >> My HP AIO printer/scanner software for scanning cannot launch after [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > that made old software and hardware unusable. That alone would piss the > average person off. Your scanner is over 6yrs old. Epson chose not to write new Vista drivers for it. Epson wants you to purchase a new scanner. Live with it. You should have checked with Epson and HP before you went with Vista. Two mins on the Internet would have made you and 'informed' user. So stop whining. It was your decision.
Alias - 07 Oct 2008 10:58 GMT >>> yea, vista is just like Millennium, bad usability. >>> My HP AIO printer/scanner software for scanning cannot launch after [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > Two mins on the Internet would have made you and 'informed' user. > So stop whining. It was your decision. So does this mean we won't be hearing your drivel about hardware not working with Ubuntu?
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Ringmaster - 07 Oct 2008 13:31 GMT >>> yea, vista is just like Millennium, bad usability. >>> My HP AIO printer/scanner software for scanning cannot launch after >>> life update! The product is claimed to be vista compliant but in fact >>> it is NOT.
>Your scanner is over 6yrs old. Epson chose not to write new Vista >drivers for it. Epson wants you to purchase a new scanner. >Live with it. You should have checked with Epson and HP before you went >with Vista.
>Two mins on the Internet would have made you and 'informed' user. >So stop whining. It was your decision. Frank always ignores relevant facts like "Vista compliant".
Warren DesJardins - 07 Oct 2008 05:29 GMT >> Like Millennium., if I have the name right (one before XP), I think Vista >> is a joke and wont be around long unless people are forced to buy it or [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Alias Thanks, but that would void my warranty with HP.
Paul Montgomery - 07 Oct 2008 06:19 GMT >>> Like Millennium., if I have the name right (one before XP), I think Vista >>> is a joke and wont be around long unless people are forced to buy it or [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > >Thanks, but that would void my warranty with HP. I thought you were going to toss it out the window and by a Mac.
Alias - 07 Oct 2008 11:00 GMT >>> Like Millennium., if I have the name right (one before XP), I think >>> Vista is a joke and wont be around long unless people are forced to [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Thanks, but that would void my warranty with HP. Not if you remove the hard drive, leaving Vista on it, put in a new one and install Ubuntu on it. If you ever need warranty work with HP (now, there's a joke! HP's "support" is like a rubber crutch), just put the old hard drive back in and voila it's right back like it was when you bought it.
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