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Daniel - 28 Oct 2006 04:56 GMT
Hi

I have Windows XP home and  a Belkin Wireless Network,
where do I go to let Windows manage the Netwoks?

I believe there is a setting somewhere in Windows but I cannot find it.

thanks

Daniel
David Hettel - 28 Oct 2006 06:46 GMT
Control Panel | Network Connections | Right click on the wireless icon |
Click on Properties | Click on the Wireless Networks (tab) | Check "Use
Windows to configure my wireless network settings"

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> Hi
>
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> Daniel
Daniel - 28 Oct 2006 06:56 GMT
David

thanks, something is amiss here, when I right click on
the wireless icon and select properties, there is no Wireless Network tab,
the only tabs are General and Advanced?

Any idea what is wrong?

thanks

Daniel
> Control Panel | Network Connections | Right click on the wireless icon |
> Click on Properties | Click on the Wireless Networks (tab) | Check "Use
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>> Daniel
David Hettel - 28 Oct 2006 13:54 GMT
Well you might want to look at the this page then:
http://www.ezlan.net/wzc.html
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> David
>
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>>>
>>> Daniel
Mike Hyndman - 28 Oct 2006 18:40 GMT
> Well you might want to look at the this page then:
> http://www.ezlan.net/wzc.html
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>>>>
>>>> Daniel

I also use a Belkin laptop card and it is a bloody nightmare getting it to
acquire and maintain its connection, it eventually gets an address from the
router, has it for about ten minutes then loses it again, the IP address
goes to 0.0.0.0. I have even tried setting the alternate TCP/ IP address
page to a fixed address, but it even loses this. The card is "managed " by
the Belkin wireless utility but WZC is also running and tries to acquire the
address at boot up, If I disable WZC as recommended by ezlan.net, the Belkin
utility exit also. I then cannot restart the Belkin utility until I enable
WZC, then if I try and get WZC to manage the connection I get the message
that Windows cannot do this and I must use the software that came with the
card.
Any suggestions?

Mike H .
David Hettel - 28 Oct 2006 20:51 GMT
I did a quick search on the Belkin site and based on page 15 of the manual
my guess is Belkin did not choose to write drivers that support WZC. I would
suggest that you contact Belkin Tech support and see if they tell you it
should work. Sorry wish I had better news.

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>> Well you might want to look at the this page then:
>> http://www.ezlan.net/wzc.html
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> Mike H .
Jack (MVP-Networking). - 28 Oct 2006 21:23 GMT
LOL, David.
It seems that you posted while I was typing.
Jack (MVP-Networking).

>I did a quick search on the Belkin site and based on page 15 of the manual
>my guess is Belkin did not choose to write drivers that support WZC. I
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>>
>> Mike H .
David Hettel - 29 Oct 2006 03:30 GMT
:) Not a problem for me. I don't think one can have too much useful
information, you're an MVP that says a lot about your technical knowledge.
I'm simply here to help where I can, and give a little back to the comunity.
I willingly admit I don't have all the answers, and my way is not the only
way or indeed necessarily the best way for all.

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> LOL, David.
> It seems that you posted while I was typing.
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>>> Mike H .
Axel Hammerschmidt - 28 Oct 2006 21:54 GMT
> I did a quick search on the Belkin site and based on page 15 of the manual
> my guess is Belkin did not choose to write drivers that support WZC.

May I suggest looking for the file

F5D7010-WPA Addendum.pdf

(if that's the adapter you're using) on the Belkin site?

: Setting up WPA in Windows XP
:
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: screen. Ensure the "Use Windows to configure my wireless network
: settings" box is checked.
Mike Hyndman - 28 Oct 2006 22:56 GMT
>> I did a quick search on the Belkin site and based on page 15 of the
>> manual
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> : screen. Ensure the "Use Windows to configure my wireless network
> : settings" box is checked.

Hello Axel,

I am using a F5D7010 but I cannot find the pdf you name, only drivers and
flash install guides.
I am using WEP not WPA should that make a difference?
When I try and use WZC I get the message that windows cannot configure this
wireless connection etc., I can't even view the wireless networks.
I tried "Use Windows to configure etc"., in Control Panel and the card just
goes dead.
I then put the password into the "key box" in WZC and it began to acquire an
address, this took what seemed like a few minutes, but it eventually woke
the card up and connected. I then exited the Belkin utility.
I am going to disable the Belkin Utility at startup now and see what
happens.

Regards

Mike H
Axel Hammerschmidt - 28 Oct 2006 23:18 GMT
"Mike Hyndman" <tell me yours and I'll send mine@suspisiousbastard.com>
wrote:

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> I am using a F5D7010 but I cannot find the pdf you name, only drivers and
> flash install guides.

http://tinyurl.com/v994b

or

http://web.belkin.com/support/download.asp?lang=1&download=F5D7010&mode=
Mike Hyndman - 28 Oct 2006 23:40 GMT
> "Mike Hyndman" <tell me yours and I'll send mine@suspisiousbastard.com>
> wrote:
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> http://web.belkin.com/support/download.asp?lang=1&download=F5D7010&mode=

Many thanks Axel, couldn't see for looking, been a long day.;)

Regards

Mike H
Daniel - 28 Oct 2006 23:40 GMT
Axel wrote

Clicking on the "Wireless Networks" tab will display the following
: screen. Ensure the "Use Windows to configure my wireless network
: settings" box is checked.

Problem is no such Tab exists in my system on either PC, I would guess
that Belkin removed it.

Frustrating thig is that one PC works well the other is the problematic one,

This morning I tried to send a 8Gig size folder across the network, it
started well
at 54Mbps then slowly died untill it lost the connection,.

cheers

Daniel

>> I did a quick search on the Belkin site and based on page 15 of the
>> manual
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> : screen. Ensure the "Use Windows to configure my wireless network
> : settings" box is checked.
Axel Hammerschmidt - 29 Oct 2006 00:40 GMT
> Axel wrote
>
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> Problem is no such Tab exists in my system on either PC, I would guess
> that Belkin removed it.

Have you been and had a look at ezlan.net?
Daniel - 29 Oct 2006 04:54 GMT
>> Axel wrote
>>
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>
> Have you been and had a look at ezlan.net?

Hi

I cannot follow the instructions on the Ezlan page because I cannot disable
the
Belkin Utility.
The Belkin manual says the right click on the Belkin icon on the system
tray, but when I
do that nothing happens??

Also I cannot follow the Belkin set-up procedure because when I right click
on "Wireless network connection" and select "Properties" there is no
Wireless Network Tab.

I tries disabling WZC services and also tried resetting it to Manual, it
just reverts to Automatic when I reboot.

Man, this is so frustrating.

cheers

Daniel
Axel Hammerschmidt - 29 Oct 2006 09:42 GMT
> >> Axel wrote
> >>
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>
> Man, this is so frustrating.

I think you should un-install the whole "package" from Belkin with the
uninstall utility that comes with the Belkin software. Reboot and insert
the PC Card. Windows will find the new hardware and offer to find a
driver. This way you avoid installing the Belkin utility.

What you do then depends on if Windows still has the driver somewhere in
a cache on your HDD. In case it does, follow the procedure until you are
asked accept the driver Windows finds to install. Now you can continue
in two ways, by accepting the diver Windows finds and updating the
driver later on; or not accepting and going back and choose a driver
manually.

You should already have downloaded the latest driver from Belkins site
(be carefull here - Belkin has 5 or 6 different driver versions for
their F5D7010 cards on the site. Look for a sticker on the card to find
the correct version - mine says VER.1314yy - but I'm not sure if that
means ver 1. It's confusing!) and preferably be installing that driver.

Then activate WZC, now hopefully without the Belkin utility being
somewhere on your computer and with the missing tab back on the network
control panel.
Mike Hyndman - 29 Oct 2006 11:24 GMT
>> >> Axel wrote
>> >>
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> somewhere on your computer and with the missing tab back on the network
> control panel.

Axel,

I tried that a while back, the Belkin CD not only installs the network
monitor utility but also the card driver. Uninstalling the Belkin software
will uninstall both utility and driver. Inserting the card to let windows
sort out the diver results in being asked to insert the Belkin CD and that
just loads the whole thing back in again. Must admit, I never tried looking
for just  a driver folder on the CD though.
Daniel,
What happens when you right click on teh Belkin icon? Do you not get the
option to "exit" the utility?
You can also prevent this utility from starting by typing  msconfig in  the
"Run" dialogue box, select the Startup tab and uncheck the Belkin tick box.

Regards
Mike H
Axel Hammerschmidt - 29 Oct 2006 12:06 GMT
"Mike Hyndman" <tell me yours and I'll send mine@suspisiousbastard.com>
wrote:

<snip>

> I tried that a while back, the Belkin CD not only installs the network
> monitor utility but also the card driver. Uninstalling the Belkin software
> will uninstall both utility and driver. Inserting the card to let windows
> sort out the diver results in being asked to insert the Belkin CD and that
> just loads the whole thing back in again. Must admit, I never tried looking
> for just  a driver folder on the CD though.

Yes. That can prevent you installing the driver directly from the CD, if
the driver is in a .cab file or buried in the .exe file. In the first
case you may be able to access the .cab file with Windows Explorer (I'm
not sure, because I have W2K and not Xp) or with a third party utility
like Windows Commander, and extract the driver from the .cab file. In
the second case, I don't know of any way, except downloading the driver
in a separate file of it's own from Belkin's site.
Daniel - 30 Oct 2006 09:04 GMT
>>> >> Axel wrote
>>> >>
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> Regards
> Mike H

Mike

when I right click I get nothing, NO THING.

I'm going to get all the data together and have another go in a couple of
days.

thanks to all for the help

regards

Daniel
Jack (MVP-Networking). - 28 Oct 2006 20:57 GMT
Hi
I am not familiar with Belkin's card (I have Belkin Routers, but No cards).
However, what you describe does not appear to be "Normal" Behavior.
I would suggest that you log to Belkin's support and look for the card page
and the faq (if any), or and contact Belkin Support
Jack (MVP-Networking).

>> Well you might want to look at the this page then:
>> http://www.ezlan.net/wzc.html
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>
> Mike H .
Mike Hyndman - 28 Oct 2006 21:24 GMT
> Hi
> I am not familiar with Belkin's card (I have Belkin Routers, but No
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> page and the faq (if any), or and contact Belkin Support
> Jack (MVP-Networking).

(snip)

Many thanks Jack and David, I have tried the FAQ's on the Belkin site
without success, so it looks like a 'phonecall is in order ;(

Again, many thanks

Mike H
Daniel - 28 Oct 2006 23:12 GMT
Thanks to everone who replied, I have been asleep all night and will
get to this later today.

thanks again

regards

Daniel

>> Hi
>> I am not familiar with Belkin's card (I have Belkin Routers, but No
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>
> Mike H
 
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