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Stuart Grant - 26 Jul 2007 15:01 GMT
07/26/2007 02:27 AM
           I have a Linksys WAG54GS as Gateway for a small wireless network
with a Dell Dimension 3.0 running XP with SP2. Also on the network are a
wireless-enabled Brother MFC printer and a second Dell Dimension located
some 30 feet from the access point; the first computer is very close.

           The setup worked satisfactorily for some time but crashed some
weeks ago when I was trying to add another laptop. I reran the Setup from
the CD for the WAG54GS and it seemed to complete satisfactorily. However
when I try to connect I always get the problem "Cannot acquire an IP
address".

           The access point(modem) functions satisfactorily with an
Ethernet cable connection so I think it is programmed satisfactorily with
the ISP. When I view Network Connections I see both the Ethernet Network
(MSHOME) and the Wireless Network (WIHOME) showing "Connected" and indeed
get a message saying "Connected to WIHOME _ Signal Strength Excellent". But
if I disconnect the cable and try to use the wireless link it goes on
endlessly trying to acquire an IP address. It worked very satisfactorily
before with no cable, simply the wireless network. Both Networks are set
with property "Acquire IP Address automatically".

           Can anyone tell me how to fix it ? I have not tried to connect
the printer or the second computer until I get the first computer working
satisfactorily.

           I sent a query to Linksys Support but it is hopeless.  Ignores
you query .  Suggests canned solutions to problems I do not have !

           Stuart Grant
Robert L [MVP - Networking] - 26 Jul 2007 15:15 GMT
Try to reset the router first. If that doesn't work, check if there is firmware for the router? or this post may help,

network adapter won't "acquire a ...The ipconfig command receives 0.0.0.0 IP address. ... I have a dlink wireless network, with my desktop Dell connected to the ...
     http://www.chicagotech.net/netforums/viewtopic.php?p=1413&sid=ef7df081471c1c15fa
6592f989163987


Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on http://www.ChicagoTech.net 
How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on http://www.HowToNetworking.com 

            07/26/2007 02:27 AM
             I have a Linksys WAG54GS as Gateway for a small wireless network
 with a Dell Dimension 3.0 running XP with SP2. Also on the network are a
 wireless-enabled Brother MFC printer and a second Dell Dimension located
 some 30 feet from the access point; the first computer is very close.

             The setup worked satisfactorily for some time but crashed some
 weeks ago when I was trying to add another laptop. I reran the Setup from
 the CD for the WAG54GS and it seemed to complete satisfactorily. However
 when I try to connect I always get the problem "Cannot acquire an IP
 address".

             The access point(modem) functions satisfactorily with an
 Ethernet cable connection so I think it is programmed satisfactorily with
 the ISP. When I view Network Connections I see both the Ethernet Network
 (MSHOME) and the Wireless Network (WIHOME) showing "Connected" and indeed
 get a message saying "Connected to WIHOME _ Signal Strength Excellent". But
 if I disconnect the cable and try to use the wireless link it goes on
 endlessly trying to acquire an IP address. It worked very satisfactorily
 before with no cable, simply the wireless network. Both Networks are set
 with property "Acquire IP Address automatically".

             Can anyone tell me how to fix it ? I have not tried to connect
 the printer or the second computer until I get the first computer working
 satisfactorily.

             I sent a query to Linksys Support but it is hopeless.  Ignores
 you query .  Suggests canned solutions to problems I do not have !

             Stuart Grant
Stuart Grant - 27 Jul 2007 14:21 GMT
Appreciate your help BUT

"reset the router first"
I'm afraid I don't know how to do that.  There is no Reset button on the
router.  I have switched on and off a few times but that does not help -
also rebooted the computer.

"firmware"
I have the CD which came with the router.  I have been back to the web-site
but do not see any update to the firmware on the disc, which did work fine
until I got into trouble

I followed the link you posted but it did not help although it seems other
people have similar problems.

I'll try running the setup program on the CD again.

Thanks anyway

Stuart
Try to reset the router first. If that doesn't work, check if there is
firmware for the router? or this post may help,

network adapter won't "acquire a ... The ipconfig command receives 0.0.0.0
IP address. ... I have a dlink wireless network, with my desktop Dell
connected to the ...
http://www.chicagotech.net/netforums/viewtopic.php?p=1413&sid=ef7df081471c1c15fa
6592f989163987


Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on
http://www.ChicagoTech.net
How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on
http://www.HowToNetworking.com
Phillip Windell - 27 Jul 2007 14:45 GMT
Unplug it from the electricity,...wait a few seconds,...plug it back in.

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> Appreciate your help BUT
>
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> How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on
> http://www.HowToNetworking.com
Phillip Windell - 27 Jul 2007 15:42 GMT
Now it he was refering to reseting to factory defaults, then see the
device's documentation.  With some you hold down a small reset button with a
paperclip or inkpen while you power cycle the device.  With others you hold
down the same reset button for a number of second with the device already
running. Other brands may be different yet.

> Unplug it from the electricity,...wait a few seconds,...plug it back in.
>
[quoted text clipped - 31 lines]
>> How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on
>> http://www.HowToNetworking.com
Stuart Grant - 27 Jul 2007 16:55 GMT
I said before that the router had no reset button but examining the back
once more I found a red rimmed hole with reset round it in tiny type.  Poked
in there with a bent paper click and it seemed to reboot but ended up once
more with "acquiring IP address"  and finally said it could not do so and
advised me to contact whoever manages the network - ME !
Stuart

> Now it he was refering to reseting to factory defaults, then see the
> device's documentation.  With some you hold down a small reset button with
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
>> Unplug it from the electricity,...wait a few seconds,...plug it back in.
Stuart Grant - 27 Jul 2007 16:45 GMT
Tried that.  No change.  Still hangs "Acquiring IP Address"  Thanks anyway.
Stuart

> Unplug it from the electricity,...wait a few seconds,...plug it back in.
Jack (MVP-Networking). - 26 Jul 2007 15:54 GMT
Hi
1. Check manually the Router DHCP table and make sure that it has enough
range giving IPs.
2. Start with Wireless security Off and adjust it only after very thing
works.
3. Give the Printer a static IP that is outside the DHCP range.
Jack (MVP-Networking).

>           07/26/2007 02:27 AM
>            I have a Linksys WAG54GS as Gateway for a small wireless
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>
>            Stuart Grant
Stuart Grant - 27 Jul 2007 14:28 GMT
Thanks for your help BUT

"Check manually the DHCP table"
I'm afraid I do not know how to do that but I am sure there are enough IPs.
This is a very small network

"Start with Wireless Security off"
Again I don't think I know how to do this without running the setup program
again.  Will do this.

I'm not bothered about the printer at this stage.  I can always connect it
with a long USB cable.  I just want to get the computer on to the internet
on the Wireless network at this stage.

Thanks again.

Stuart

> Hi
> 1. Check manually the Router DHCP table and make sure that it has enough
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> 3. Give the Printer a static IP that is outside the DHCP range.
> Jack (MVP-Networking).
Phillip Windell - 27 Jul 2007 14:51 GMT
> "Check manually the DHCP table"
> I'm afraid I do not know how to do that but I am sure there are enough
> IPs. This is a very small network

Many of these box have a 50 machine limit on the number of addresses they
give out.  It may be adjustable, it may not be.  That is only a limit on the
number of DHCP Clients,...not the number of machine on the LAN.

If you have less than 50 machines it is a moot point anyway.

> "Start with Wireless Security off"
> Again I don't think I know how to do this without running the setup
> program again.  Will do this.

It means don't use WEP, WPA, WPA2 or whatever else the box offers.
Security is probably off by default.  If you didn't set it up yourself on
purpose, then it is probably already off.  When you sit at a Client machine
and view the Available Wireless Networks List,..it will show your wireless
network as being "Secured" or "Unsecured",...that is one way to know if it
is on or not.

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Lem - 27 Jul 2007 15:59 GMT
> Thanks for your help BUT
>
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>> 3. Give the Printer a static IP that is outside the DHCP range.
>> Jack (MVP-Networking).

Most Linksys devices have a small button, usually on the back near where
the power cord connects, that is used to reset the device.  Typically,
you press and hold the button for 10-20 seconds.  This should be
explained in the manual.  On the other hand, resetting will likely also
reset your ISP-specific information, so if you don't know how to set up
that part of the modem/router, I would suggest not resetting.

What "crashed" when you tried to add your new laptop, and what did you
do to recover from the crash?  It sounds to me as if your WAG54GS is
setup with some wireless security (encryption) and that by running the
"setup" CD, you've erased the password from your computer.  If you don't
know what that password is (did someone else setup your network for
you), you'll have to reset/change the password on the router.  If you
don't know how to do that, you'll have to read the router's manual.

I was quite surprised to find that Linksys does not have a manual for
the WAG54GS available for download.  I would at least expect there to be
a manual on the CD that came with it.  Most of the info you're looking
for should be there.

Rather than e-mail Linksys support, try their on-line chat support
service, if it's still available.  I've had good experience with that in
the past (you can tell that the canned solution isn't applicable).

If you can't get anywhere with Linksys, go to
http://www.linksysinfo.org/index.php
This is an on-line community of Linksys users, many of whom are quite
knowledgeable.  You should be able to get some help there.

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To the moon and back with 64 Kbits of RAM and 512 Kbits of ROM.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Guidance_Computer

Stuart Grant - 27 Jul 2007 17:04 GMT
Lem
Thanks for your helpful advice.  I did try resetting but it continued to
hang at "Acquiring IP address".
If it removed the ISP information I can replace that and I have got the code
for the WEP encryption.

The WAAG54GS does not come with a manual only a skimpy Quick Installation
leaflet and as far as I can see none on the CD.  I have to stop now but will
follow up your other suggestions tomorrow.  Thanks very much.
Stuart

> Most Linksys devices have a small button, usually on the back near where
> the power cord connects, that is used to reset the device.  Typically, you
[quoted text clipped - 24 lines]
> This is an on-line community of Linksys users, many of whom are quite
> knowledgeable.  You should be able to get some help there.
Lem - 27 Jul 2007 20:38 GMT
Seems to be a User's Guide on the Linksys UK site (although I don't know
what "Annex A" means), and the manual says its for the "EU" version, but
it's better than nothing (EU may only mean that the manual is in
English, French, and German):
http://www-uk.linksys.com/servlet/Satellite?childpagename=UK%2FLayout&packedargs
=page%3D2%26cid%3D1129319214507%26c%3DL_Content_C1&pagename=Linksys%2FCommon%2FV
isitorWrapper&SubmittedElement=Linksys%2FFormSubmit%2FProductDownloadSearch&sp_p
rodsku=1123521940739

shorter version of above link: http://tinyurl.com/3dw4co

If you can access your device's configuration utility (use an Ethernet
connection; don't try to do it wirelessly), read Chapter 6 of the manual
then get to the "Wireless" tab.  Unless you've got an old laptop or an
old wireless adapter, set the "Wireless Network Mode" to "G-only" (it
will also work with the default, "Mixed").  Then click the "Wireless
security tab" and set the mode to "Disable."  Click "Save settings."

Now try to connect wirelessly.  If this works, then re-connect the
Ethernet cable, re-access the router's config. system, and set the mode
to WPA-Personal or WPA2-Personal.  Which one you pick depends on the
capability of your laptop's wireless adapter.  WPA2 is better than WPA.
 Do not use WEP.

> Lem
> Thanks for your helpful advice.  I did try resetting but it continued to
[quoted text clipped - 35 lines]
>> This is an on-line community of Linksys users, many of whom are quite
>> knowledgeable.  You should be able to get some help there.

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To the moon and back with 64 Kbits of RAM and 512 Kbits of ROM.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Guidance_Computer

Stuart Grant - 30 Jul 2007 14:56 GMT
Sorry to be so long in getting back.  In the meantime I found the Manual was
in fact on the CD and followed your instructions to read Chapter  6.
Unfortunately the instructions for accessing the configuration utility are
at the end of that chapter, rather than at the beginning !

So I reset and redid setup.  That worked all right.  I followed your
instructions, turned off security.  It worked.  I got the message " You are
now connected to WIHOME - Signal strength excellent" !  I was overjoyed
until I tried to go on the net.  Nothing doing. No connection.  I couldn't
get on the net and of course couldn't ask for help.

I told you that I knew how to configure the connection to the ISP but alas I
was wrong, or at least the Gateway utility asks for a little more
information.  I struggled with this a large part of Sunday and this morning
contacted the ISP-Help-Line and found someone to walk me through the entries
in the utility.  At the end everything fine.  The Network working on
Wireless and Ethernet.  Wonderful.

After surfing just a little to check some sites, I realised that the
Wireless Network was still open - no security, so following your advice,
went back to the Gateway utility to change it.  Unfortunately I forgot your
instruction to reconnect the Ethernet connection before doing this.  Result
chaos.  Both the Ethernet and Wireless Network became "Not connected" and
"Repair" doesn't help.  I finally realised that the problem was different
security settings on the computer and the Gateway.  Finally restored first
the Ethernet, then the Wireless.  I am back in business and eternally
grateful to you for your time and patience.  I still have to fix Security
and  note that you strongly recommend WAP-2 and not WEP, which I had before.
I will read the information which I have very carefully and change the
security settings on the computer first, then the Gateway.

After that I will hopefully connect the other computer.  The WindowsXP
instructions advise you to us a flash drive, first in the existing computer,
then the Access Point, then the new computer and then the first computer
again.  Problem is the Access Point (Gateway) doesn't have a USB port.  I
seemed to manage before and hopefully can again.

Thanks again for your help and patience.

Stuart

> Seems to be a User's Guide on the Linksys UK site (although I don't know
> what "Annex A" means), and the manual says its for the "EU" version, but
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
> capability of your laptop's wireless adapter.  WPA2 is better than WPA. Do
> not use WEP.
Lem - 30 Jul 2007 15:58 GMT
Stuart,
I'm glad to see that you are getting things sorted out.  Windows Connect
Now does assume that your router has a USB connection for a flash drive,
and most do not.  Apparently D-Link routers do.  Here are some articles
that you might find helpful.

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/networking/learnmore/bowman_05june13.mspx
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/networking/setup/connectnow.mspx
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/networking/setup/connectnow.mspx

If you have already setup one computer and the router with the security
you want, you can use Windows Connect Now to transfer all of the network
settings, including the encryption key, from one computer to the other
using a USB flash drive.    What you can't do -- unless you have a
router with a USB flash drive -- is setup the router itself.  Note that
you can use the Wizard to print out all of the settings, which you might
want to do anyway, and keep the info in a safe, secure location.

> Sorry to be so long in getting back.  In the meantime I found the Manual was
> in fact on the CD and followed your instructions to read Chapter  6.
[quoted text clipped - 56 lines]
>> capability of your laptop's wireless adapter.  WPA2 is better than WPA. Do
>> not use WEP.

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To the moon and back with 64 Kbits of RAM and 512 Kbits of ROM.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Guidance_Computer

Jack (MVP-Networking). - 27 Jul 2007 17:05 GMT
Hi
My personal recommendation is Not to use the Setup Disk (or use it as a
coaster). Wireless by nature is not as stable and durable as wire, and
sooner or later there is always some"Quirky" behavior. So it is worth while
to spend one hour to learn the basic manual configuration of the Wireless
Network, to avoid head aches now, and in the future.
The Hardware's manual plus these pages can be a good tutorial.
http://www.ezlan.net#Wireless
Jack (MVP-Networking).

> Thanks for your help BUT
>
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
>> 3. Give the Printer a static IP that is outside the DHCP range.
>> Jack (MVP-Networking).
Stuart Grant - 30 Jul 2007 15:03 GMT
Thanks very much for your advice.  Unfortunately, I could not find how to
access the Utility on the Gateway until later.  (So  easy - just
http://196.182.1.1 with an Ethernet connection)

Setup worked and I got the Network connected - Strength excellent.  Problem
was I couldn't access the net.  I thought I knew how to connect to the ISP
but didn't - or at least not in all details.  The Help-Line of the ISP,
solved that problem and my troubles are over - I think !  Thanks again.

Stuart

> Hi
> My personal recommendation is Not to use the Setup Disk (or use it as a
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> http://www.ezlan.net#Wireless
> Jack (MVP-Networking).
 
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