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Elle - 25 Feb 2006 08:17 GMT Switching from an Outlook Express Window to a loading Internet Explorer Window is much slower with my new Windows XP (SP2 Home, bought separately from my computer). This is despite the fact that it's loaded on a computer with a new mobo/CPU and 512 MByte RAM. I have to click repeatedly on the taskbar button, and still I have to wait several seconds for the new window to appear.
My old computer with Windows ME and only 128 Mbyte RAM switches much more quickly and seemed to search more quickly, too.
I googled and found discussion turning off background tasks (but which ones?). Also, right clicking on "My Computer," Properties, then advanced, then unchecking so as to maximize performance. Neither of these helped noticeably.
My computer is not connected to a network. It runs independently.
In my googling, I found this critique of Win XP: http://www.memecode.com/docs/winxp-problems.php . It seems to capture some of my concerns.
Seems like I'm trading "stability" of Win XP for the speed of my old Win ME (when it wasn't crashing). This so?
Rick - 25 Feb 2006 11:23 GMT Hi Elle,
What are you using for antivirus software? If you disable it, does this help? WinXP on 512MB of ram should move along rather quickly, so there has to be some background process (likely one that was preinstalled on the system by the manufacturer and is totally unnecessary) bogging you down. Prime suspects are the large commercial AV software products like Norton's and Mcafee.
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> Switching from an Outlook Express Window to a loading Internet Explorer > Window is much slower with my new Windows XP (SP2 Home, bought separately [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > Seems like I'm trading "stability" of Win XP for the speed of my old Win > ME (when it wasn't crashing). This so? Elle - 25 Feb 2006 17:07 GMT Thanks, Rick. I don't use any antivirus software except what may have come with Windows XP (again, purchased separately, not pre-loaded or from a manufactuer like Dell or Gateway). I did a search for anything Norton or Mcafee and nothing came up. I am now using msconfig, services, then disabling all processes there, as well as the two other approaches I mentioned earlier to try to get some speed. These help. I'll keep digging and monitoring.
> Hi Elle, > [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] >> Seems like I'm trading "stability" of Win XP for the speed of my old Win >> ME (when it wasn't crashing). This so? Malke - 25 Feb 2006 17:19 GMT > Thanks, Rick. I don't use any antivirus software except what may have > come with Windows XP (again, purchased separately, not pre-loaded or [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > approaches I mentioned earlier to try to get some speed. These help. > I'll keep digging and monitoring. Windows XP does not come with any antivirus software. Your computer is probably infected with something. Go through these malware removal steps systematically, starting with the virus scan:
http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/page2.html#Removing_Malware
Do not connect a Windows computer to the Internet without a current version (not earlier than 2005) antivirus installed and a firewall.
Malke
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Ken Blake, MVP - 25 Feb 2006 17:44 GMT > Thanks, Rick. I don't use any antivirus software except what may have > come with Windows XP Windows comes with no anti-virus software. If you haven't installed any yourself, it's *very* likely that you are infected, and probably even with multiple viruses. Your first step at trouble-shooting almost any problem should be to check for viruses (and spyware) and clean the system. If you are really badly infected with lots of thing--and that's certainly possible if you've been running without protection--your best course is probably to reformat and reinstall Windows cleanly.
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> (again, purchased separately, not pre-loaded or > from a manufactuer like Dell or Gateway). I did a search for anything [quoted text clipped - 42 lines] >>> Seems like I'm trading "stability" of Win XP for the speed of my >>> old Win ME (when it wasn't crashing). This so? Rick - 25 Feb 2006 18:21 GMT Hi Elle,
What Malke and Ken said.
Basically, the most likely cause of the trouble is a virus since you are unprotected. Free virus removal tools:
http://vil.nai.com/vil/stinger/ http://www.emsisoft.com/en/ http://free.grisoft.com/doc/8/lng/us/tpl/v5/nid/3001#3001 http://www.f-secure.com/download-purchase/tools.shtml
Also, you may use this free on-line scanner: http://housecall.trendmicro.com/
Many are best run in Safe mode to minimize interference. Most will resist removal in normal mode where they are active.
How to start in Safe mode: http://www.rickrogers.org/fixes.htm#Safe%20mode
Emergency system tools: http://www.dougknox.com/xp/utils/xp_emerutils.htm
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Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/ Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
> Thanks, Rick. I don't use any antivirus software except what may have come > with Windows XP (again, purchased separately, not pre-loaded or from a [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] >>> Seems like I'm trading "stability" of Win XP for the speed of my old Win >>> ME (when it wasn't crashing). This so? Elle - 25 Feb 2006 18:45 GMT Rick, Malke, and Ken,
My computer setup has about a one-month old Win XP installation, mobo/cpu, case, power supply, and 512 Mbyte RAM, and a four-month or so old Seagate hard drive. From the get-go with it, ISTM I was having to click on the buttons on the taskbar multiple times, and waiting a long time compared to my old Win ME set up with a lot less RAM (128 Mbyte).
I was going back and forth between my new computer, with newly loaded Win XP and old computer for a couple of weeks while waiting for a new power switch for the new computer.
Call me naive, but before I download any virus protection software, what do you think of doing a reformat and re-install of Win XP on my hard drive first? Shouldn't that eliminate any viruses? Then I'd compare.
Another question: Are viruses popping up on computer systems connected strictly via modems and with email protection features? (I don't download any attachments from email, anyway.)
I am being careful with my important spreadsheet files etc. so everything is well backed up. The only cost is taking the time to reformat and reload Win XP, Works Suite, Earthlink software, Adobe, now Java software, and my somewhat old modem's Win XP driver. I have careful notes on reloading everything needed now.
> Hi Elle, > [quoted text clipped - 60 lines] >>>> Seems like I'm trading "stability" of Win XP for the speed of my old >>>> Win ME (when it wasn't crashing). This so? Elle - 25 Feb 2006 18:50 GMT Plus, my old computer doesn't have virus protection software and it's still way faster. Surely Win XP isn't more prone to catching viruses than my antiquated Win ME, is it?
Thanks Rick, Malke, and Ken (among others) for taking the time to help.
> Call me naive, but before I download any virus protection software, what > do you think of doing a reformat and re-install of Win XP on my hard drive [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > strictly via modems and with email protection features? (I don't download > any attachments from email, anyway.) Rick - 25 Feb 2006 19:06 GMT Hi Elle,
Even modem connected systems are being targeted, hopefully your firewall is still up? As XP is the most commonly found version of Windows out there right now, the bugs hit it pretty heavily. A format/clean install would knock out any bugs provided they are not in the boot sector, but to me that's like replacing the motor when all you need's a tune-up.
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> Plus, my old computer doesn't have virus protection software and it's > still way faster. Surely Win XP isn't more prone to catching viruses than [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >> strictly via modems and with email protection features? (I don't download >> any attachments from email, anyway.) Malke - 25 Feb 2006 19:16 GMT > Hi Elle, > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > the boot sector, but to me that's like replacing the motor when all > you need's a tune-up. What Rick said. I'd just add that an unprotected Windows machine has an average of 12 minutes on the Internet before it is infected with some sort of malware. I've seen it happen in less than a minute, especially if there was already some malware on the box. Go through the malware removal steps I gave you in my first post if you want to be sure.
Malke
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Elle - 25 Feb 2006 19:20 GMT No idea about the firewall. I'll research that.
You say all the computer may need is a tuneup. But you listed about six software packages to download for virus protection etc. Downloading and running all these seems as time intensive. Plus don't these packages monkey with my basic Windows XP settings, potentially causing more problems (albeit presumably fixing the virus problems)?
Can you (or anyone) tell me what sort of routine they now follow to keep their (brand new mobo/cpu/hard drive, with Win XP SP2) computer running well? Must one who wants to "do it one's self" become resigned to expending significant labor each week (or each day??) to computer software maintenance? Is that where the technology (with viruses) is at these days?
For the last two years, I have pointedly kept things very simple with my computer: Word processing, spreadsheets, Usenet, email, a bit of photo edition, a bit of web site building, a lot of internet searching (but when downloading, it's almost exclusively only PDF files). I keep things simple to minimize aggravation. Is that a mistaken philosophy these days?
I need a strategy, or I need to know whether, well, one is simply screwed these days with a computer used a lot for the internet. Having only a small bank account, and preferring to give my extra money to charity etc., I can't hire a technician (shudder the thought) to daily check my computer.
Thanks again for trying to help.
> Hi Elle, > [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] >>> strictly via modems and with email protection features? (I don't >>> download any attachments from email, anyway.) Rick - 25 Feb 2006 22:10 GMT Hi Elle,
The tools and pages we all linked to are ones we ourselves all use precisely because they are the least system intrusive. Most, like adaware, can be started and simply allowed to run while you do other things in your life - no technician required. They are fairly self explanatory and do not require that the user have any extensive computer knowledge.
To check the firewall, right click your connection and check properties. You should find the settings on the advanced tab. As Malke has pointed out, an unfirewalled system will become infected in no time at all.
Once running smoothly, with windows update set to automatic, properly firewalled, and with a self-updating antivirus program (avg from www.grisoft.com is free and will do this), there is little that requires intervention on the part of the user other than using common sense about email, attachments, and downloads.
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Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/ Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
> No idea about the firewall. I'll research that. > [quoted text clipped - 46 lines] >>>> strictly via modems and with email protection features? (I don't >>>> download any attachments from email, anyway.) Ken Blake, MVP - 25 Feb 2006 21:39 GMT > Rick, Malke, and Ken, > > My computer setup has about a one-month old Win XP installation, It can take just a few second of being connected to the internet without protection to get infected with viruses or other malwatre.
> mobo/cpu, case, power supply, and 512 Mbyte RAM, and a four-month or > so old Seagate hard drive. From the get-go with it, ISTM I was having [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > what do you think of doing a reformat and re-install of Win XP on my > hard drive first? Shouldn't that eliminate any viruses? Yes, although I think that's usually the wrong thing to do, that's probably a good idea in your circumstances. However be sure you are protected before going on the internet.
> Then I'd > compare.
> Another question: Are viruses popping up on computer systems connected > strictly via modems and with email protection features? (I don't > download any attachments from email, anyway.) Strictly? No. Viruses can still come on diskettes, CDs, or any external medium. But the most likely place to get them by far is from your internet connection.
You need three things for adequate protection:
1. A firewall
2. An anti-virus program
3. At least two anti-spyware programs. No single one is good enough. I recommend these three, all free:
Spybot Search & Destroy Adaware Spyware Blaster
Whatever software you get, download it now and burn it to CDs, so that after you reformat and reinstall, you can install these without having to first connect to the internet.
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> I am being careful with my important spreadsheet files etc. so > everything is well backed up. The only cost is taking the time to [quoted text clipped - 80 lines] >>>>> Seems like I'm trading "stability" of Win XP for the speed of my >>>>> old Win ME (when it wasn't crashing). This so? Sharon F - 25 Feb 2006 22:33 GMT > I am now using msconfig, services, then > disabling all processes there Be careful disabling services. Some of them are needed for the system to operate efficiently. Also if disabling, do so using Administrative tools instead of MSCONFIG.
Use MSCONFIG to manage/keep an eye on startup *programs.* Even then I prefer to change startup behavior in the menus of the relative program instead of using MSCONFIG.
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Elle - 26 Feb 2006 02:06 GMT Ken, Rick, and Sharon: Thank you for the suggestions (based I realize on a lot of experience, so I understand I need to pay attention.).
Rick, for some reason right clicking on my connection etc. didn't indicate anything about a firewall, but I must be missing something. Anyway, it helps to know it's easy to check. I'll dig further and hopefully identify soon what's up with that on my computer.
I appreciate all of you reinforcing and elaborating further on your original points. I will take a day or so off from this and then try what will be a totally new approach (per your descriptions re virus prevention) to my computer operations, taking lots of notes.
Thank you again.
Ken Blake, MVP - 26 Feb 2006 02:10 GMT > Ken, Rick, and Sharon: Thank you for the suggestions (based I realize > on a lot of experience, so I understand I need to pay attention.). You're welcome, Elle. Always glad to help.
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> Rick, for some reason right clicking on my connection etc. didn't > indicate anything about a firewall, but I must be missing something. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Thank you again. Elle - 28 Feb 2006 07:33 GMT For the archives: Downloading and installing the Firefox browser, and using it instead of Internet Explorer, has sped up my internet site loading and switching enormously. I also do not have to click repeatedly to switch from one IE (or Outlook Express) window to another.
http://www.mozilla.com/firefox/ has the Firefox browser.
I don't know why Firefox is so superior. All I can tell is that when I check "Connection," "Status," it appears over three times as many bytes are being sent and received now. This is despite the connection speed being unchanged at about 49.2 Kbps.
I have a long list of items to pursue further, re virus protection, spyware, etc., per people's directions here, as I've noted. I am keeping my paws off altering processes via running msconfig.
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