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Windows Forum / Windows XP / Basics / January 2007Victim of software counterfeiting
Hi Everyone. I have bought a secondhand machine running Win XP and there is an icon on the task bar that says " you may be a victim of software counterfeiting". When I right click on it says "validation failure, this copy of windows may not be genuine", and invites me to purchase another copy. As the machine was cheap, I didn't want to spend anymore on it, does anyone know how to remove these messages please. > I have bought a secondhand machine running Win XP and there is > an icon on the task bar that says " you may be a victim of [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > As the machine was cheap, I didn't want to spend anymore on it, does > anyone know how to remove these messages please. I'm sorry you paid for something you actually did not get. Perhaps - if you know the person you bought the system from - you should complain about this to them. Perhaps they have the actual copy of Windows that is supposed to be on the machine. Install Linux. It's free in many forms. Get your favorite flavor: http://linuxiso.org/ You can use OpenOffice as your free alternative to Microsoft Office. http://www.openoffice.org/ Otherwise: Search using Google! http://www.google.com/ (How-to: http://www.google.com/intl/en/help/basics.html ) You never know what you might find.  SignatureShenan Stanley MS-MVP -- How To Ask Questions The Smart Way http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html I'd say it's some kind of prank myself. I'd try to track it down & remove or uninstall it. I doubt it's any genuine message from MS. >> I have bought a secondhand machine running Win XP and there is >> an icon on the task bar that says " you may be a victim of [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > > You never know what you might find. It's definitely from MS. Their new Windows Genuine Advantage Validation Notification tool. Installs during the Automatic or Live Update, and nags you forever. \ Tom > I'd say it's some kind of prank myself. > I'd try to track it down & remove or uninstall it. I doubt it's any [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] >> >> You never know what you might find. > It's definitely from MS. Their new Windows Genuine Advantage Validation > Notification tool. Installs during the Automatic or Live Update, and nags > you forever. According to Microsoft's website...the warning can just be turned off Ah, Nothing's permanent. That CAN be made to go away! Not just turned off;GONE! But without it you won't be able to access new stuff from MS. Microsoft just doesn't want you to know this. And they don't make it easy;but it can be done. P.S. KB905474 is the same thing-don't download it. Jeff >> It's definitely from MS. Their new Windows Genuine Advantage Validation >> Notification tool. Installs during the Automatic or Live Update, and >> nags you forever. > > According to Microsoft's website...the warning can just be turned off Hi BruceM Sorry, but have you been on holiday for the last 5 or 6 weeks - this has only been one of the hottest threads being discussed in the groups. Until a user gets legit, they will forever(well almost) have that reminder popping up. The poster must have downloaded that high priority/security whatever? They call it WGA. And he has been caught out apparently and may need to buy a genuine Win OS. Have you downloaded WGA yourself. Rgds Antioch > I'd say it's some kind of prank myself. > I'd try to track it down & remove or uninstall it. I doubt it's any [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] >> >> You never know what you might find. "keyboardken" <ken.churchill@ntlworld.com> wrote in news:viWdg.4517$sX1.258 @newsfe1-gui.ntli.net: > Hi Everyone. > I have bought a secondhand machine running Win XP and there is [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > As the machine was cheap, I didn't want to spend anymore on it, does > anyone know how to remove these messages please. http://www.mydigitallife.info/2006/04/26/disable-and-remove-windows- genuine-advantage-notifications-nag-screen/ Watch for Wrapping. Thank you all for your contributions It's not that I am a thief, as I already have a genuine copy on my main machine, I thought a second machine just for internet browsing without the risk of viruses spoiling my lifetimes work, would be an advantage. A bit nasty minded from Bill Gates however. As if he hasn't got enough money already. I shall stay with this group ( I believe it's called Lurking :-) You never know, I might be able to contribute something Cheers everyone. Happy computing.......Ken > "keyboardken" <ken.churchill@ntlworld.com> wrote in > news:viWdg.4517$sX1.258 [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Watch for Wrapping. Not nasty minded at all since all it is intended to do is prevent theft! I don't really understand why you are not complaining to the person/retail activity who sold you the computer. If you do not get the OS verified, you will be blocked from Windows Update, etc. Gene K > A bit nasty minded from Bill Gates however. As if he hasn't > got enough money already. Just because the owner of the local hamburger joint is rich doesn't mean he has to "give" away his food - does it? SignatureRegards, Richard Urban Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User Quote from George Ankner: If you knew as much as you think you know, You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew! Richard, Point taken; however Genuine Advantage Validation Tool does the same thing; help stop piracy;without being "spyware" ALMOST. Not being able to easily remove software; No ADD/REMOVE option is borderline-at best. Pretty much unremovable;to a majority of users; who either do not know how;or if they do; care not to mess with the registry. So again, MS resorts to spyware tactics over this issue. Any more justifiable because it's from MS? I think not. Resorting to the same actions as disreputable "pirates" solves nothing. In fact;to the contrary;will end up doing more harm to MS then good. >> A bit nasty minded from Bill Gates however. As if he hasn't >> got enough money already. > > Just because the owner of the local hamburger joint is rich doesn't mean > he has to "give" away his food - does it? I have to wonder just how many people are finding out, much to their dismay, that the operating system on their computer is not legal. They can turn in the jerk who put it on his/her system and charged him/her for it - as if it were a legal copy. As far as easily removing WGA, now that would negate the whole point of Microsoft doing what they are doing, wouldn't it? An extremely rich man has the option of putting lo-jack in his Ferrari. He doesn't have to allow anyone to steal it, just because he can easily afford to purchase a replacement, or two. Regardless of what anyone says, my feeling is that Microsoft has the right to use WGA to ferret out the illegal copies. The user, when caught, has options. 1. He can say to himself: I got away with it for five years. I guess I will have to finally buy a copy of Windows XP. 2. He can - yes, really he can - start using an alternative if he is too cheap to purchase a replacement for that which he has stolen. 3. He can try to find a way around WGA. But I would expect Microsoft to counter at any time. If I were them, I would. I have in my software closet multiple copies of every operating system Microsoft released since DOS 6.0., as well as three different versions of OS/2. I paid for each one of them. Added up, it would be in the thousands. Do I hold it against Microsoft and IBM that I had to pay for what I wanted? I'll let you guess on that, but I will gladly pay for Windows Vista when it is released, because I "WANT" it. SignatureRegards, Richard Urban Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User Quote from George Ankner: If you knew as much as you think you know, You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew! > Richard, > Point taken; however Genuine Advantage Validation Tool does the same [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] >> Just because the owner of the local hamburger joint is rich doesn't mean >> he has to "give" away his food - does it? Richard, I think you miss the point. Truly; It is Microsoft's right to be able to charge for their product. I have no issue with that. I have no issue with Genuine Advantage Validations either. My point is; MS is applying WGA Notification in a way consistent with ; and by their own analysis;SPYWARE. Based on their own internal interpretation of SPYWARE; KB905474 fits into their spyware criteria very nicely. http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/spyware/software/msft/analysis.mspx Does the outcome justify the means? No Is MS using highly questionable tactics to try to stop piracy? Is MS using it's position of trust;(high priority update) in a manner inconsistent with acceptable industry and business codes of conduct? I would have to say YES in regards to KB905474 Again; I have no issue with WGA or it's purpose; The methodology however;is highly suspect. Jeff >I have to wonder just how many people are finding out, much to their dismay, > that the operating system on their computer is not legal. They can turn in [quoted text clipped - 44 lines] >>> Just because the owner of the local hamburger joint is rich doesn't mean >>> he has to "give" away his food - does it? > Is MS using highly questionable tactics to try to stop piracy? Since only people with pirated copies of Windows have any real problems with it, I don't consider it questionable. I just hope they don't move to a key type dongle in order to use it like other vendors do. We have over 1500 machines that have not had any problems with WGA, and the only machine we've found with a WGA warning really did have a pirated copy of XP on it. Signaturespam999free@rrohio.com remove 999 in order to email me Bull Sh#t >> Is MS using highly questionable tactics to try to stop piracy? > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > the only machine we've found with a WGA warning really did have a > pirated copy of XP on it. > Bull Sh#t Why? Just because you don't know how to setup valid machines doesn't mean that most of the rest of us don't. I have just over 1500 systems at clients offices / facilities, across the us, in use every day. Not a single one has failed WGA. All machines are a mix of Dell, white-box, etc... Most are running OEM XP+SP2, some are running the new OEM licensing, some are XP/SP1 upgraded to SP2, but all of them passed WGA and have not experienced any problems with it at all. > >> Is MS using highly questionable tactics to try to stop piracy? > > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > the only machine we've found with a WGA warning really did have a > > pirated copy of XP on it. Signaturespam999free@rrohio.com remove 999 in order to email me Just purchase a legal operating system and call it a day. SignatureBjorn > > Bull Sh#t > [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > > the only machine we've found with a WGA warning really did have a > > > pirated copy of XP on it. I recently (3-4 mos. ago) purchased a new computer from Dell. Two weeks ago I began getting the pop ups stating that I may not have a genuine copy of windows. I sent it to my cumputer guy last night - he confirmed that my hkey is not valid. Dell sent this to me - I did not pirate a copy...now I have to fight it out with Dell! > > Is MS using highly questionable tactics to try to stop piracy? > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > the only machine we've found with a WGA warning really did have a > pirated copy of XP on it. > I recently (3-4 mos. ago) purchased a new computer from Dell. Two > weeks ago I began getting the pop ups stating that I may not have a [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > is not valid. Dell sent this to me - I did not pirate a copy...now I > have to fight it out with Dell! You posted this before and I answered you by saying that it is probably that your computer guy doesn't understand that the product key that shows up using Belarc or Aida or other system inventory programs is *not* the product key that applies to you. The only product key that applies to you is the one on the sticker on the case. Unless your computer guy reinstalled Windows on your new Dell using the wrong key and the wrong type of installation media (and why would he do this?), your Dell-installed operating system is valid. You need to find a computer guy who is more competent. Here are notes about what to do if you have a problem with WGA: From MVP Carey Frisch: Please follow this simple troubleshooting procedure: 1. Download and install the WGA Diagnostic Tool http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?linkid=56062 2. After running the WGA Diagnostic Tool, click on the "Windows" tab and then click on "Copy to Clipboard". 3. Next, visit the following website and create a post in the "WGA Validation Problems" forum and paste the results of the WGA Diagnostic Data in a detailed post: http://forums.microsoft.com/Genuine/default.aspx?SiteID=25 4. A WGA troubleshooting specialist will analyze the data and recommend an appropriate solution. Windows Genuine Advantage - Diagnostic Site http://www.microsoft.com/genuine/diag/ Malke SignatureElephant Boy Computers www.elephantboycomputers.com "Don't Panic!" MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User > I recently (3-4 mos. ago) purchased a new computer from Dell. Two > weeks ago I began getting the pop ups stating that I may not have a > genuine copy of windows. I sent it to my cumputer guy last night - > he confirmed that my hkey is not valid. Dell sent this to me - I > did not pirate a copy...now I have to fight it out with Dell! Your computer guy is a moron. SignatureShenan Stanley MS-MVP -- How To Ask Questions The Smart Way http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html Moron technician, or not, the computer owner is having pop-ups that tell him that his Dell computer is not legal. That should not be, regardless what key was used to place the O/S on the computer by Dell. I worked on a brand new computer out of the box. I open the box myself the first time, after the customer received it from the manufacturer. Before I was done cleaning the system and updating the system guess what. WGA says illegal. That places me in a difficult position. Either I have to disable the WGA or give the computer back to the customer and tell him/her that they have an illegal O/S. ***NOT*** I hope Microsoft and the computer manufacturers get this ironed out quickly and then communicate the work around to the people who need the answer! I am beginning to dislike this WGA due to the many legal systems that are having problems. SignatureRegards, Richard Urban Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User (For email, remove the obvious from my address) Quote from George Ankner: If you knew as much as you think you know, You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew! >> I recently (3-4 mos. ago) purchased a new computer from Dell. Two >> weeks ago I began getting the pop ups stating that I may not have a [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Your computer guy is a moron. I am in total agreement. I've seen a couple of systems that were legit but removing malware caused WGA to barf. In both cases it was a corrupted user profile causing the system to use the default profile. Fixing the corrupted profile or logging in a couple of times with a different non-corrupted profile caused WGA to go away. Logging in again with the corrupted profile would bring it back. WGA needs to be fixed. Very few users would be knowledgeable enough to have figured out what was wrong. SignatureKerry MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User > Moron technician, or not, the computer owner is having pop-ups that > tell him that his Dell computer is not legal. [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] >> How To Ask Questions The Smart Way >> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html > I worked on a brand new computer out of the box. I open > the box myself the first time, after the customer received it from the > manufacturer. Before I was done cleaning the system and updating the system > guess what. WGA says illegal. What vendor provided this computer? I just want to know so that I can avoid them. Signaturespam999free@rrohio.com remove 999 in order to email me > I recently (3-4 mos. ago) purchased a new computer from Dell. Two weeks ago > I began getting the pop ups stating that I may not have a genuine copy of > windows. I sent it to my cumputer guy last night - he confirmed that my hkey > is not valid. Dell sent this to me - I did not pirate a copy...now I have to > fight it out with Dell! No, what you need to do is reinstall, doing a repair/reinstall, after fixing the problem that you've had, and see if that fixes your key problem. Not one Dell machine that was shipped with XP (even pre SP1) that we have with customers has failed WGA or WGAN. The only machines I've seen from Dell that fail WGA/WGAN are ones with upgraded XP that used a pirated key, ones that were compromised and corrupted (and then fixed as best they could be), etc.... While your "Computer Guy" may be good, it's obvious that he's not all there. Take the recovery CD, it should be a standard Windows XP cd, and google for repair/reinstall XP, then run a repair/reinstall and see if it passes WGAN. Oh, and Dell is going to tell you to wipe/reinstall from scratch, so the repair/reinstall is going to save you some time as it won't (in most cases) remove any of your documents. Signaturespam999free@rrohio.com remove 999 in order to email me Hello Richard I am in TOTAL agreement with you and ALL those in favour of WGA. I have no time for thieves or handlers(those who receive stolen property - knowingly of course). They deserve what they get. Any company, business or person has the right to protect their property, even that in transit. 'I got it from a friend' & 'I met this man in a pub/bar' & 'he said it fell off the back of a lorry and winked at me' Heard them all and many others. I would not give a damn if MS came up with a WGA that completely cut off/stopped their computers from even starting or made them impossible to use. Now this might seem strange coming from one accused of being an MS Sceptic and Anti-MS. But those accusers I doubt to see to the end of their noses. :-) :-) I am sceptic about most things and question everything, not just MS. I have been around too long to just accept things at first glance. My objections are to the way WGA was offered/arrived and that once one had it installed and found that one's OS was legit/authenticated/authorised/certified etc etc, this bloody 'imposition' then has to stay on your machine. Yes I am sceptic - as to what the bloody thing is doing, having done what it was intended to do, but still on my computer and non removable. A very senior judge in the UK, some 20yrs ago, had two defendants in court for sentencing. One was a thief and a burglar who had committed some 40+ crimes. The other ran one of those second-hand goods shops and he had bought most of what the thief had stolen(at a tenth of their true value). He gave the thief three years imprisonment and the receiver five years. After the two had been 'taken down' the barrister for the receiver asked the judge why he had given his client a longer prison sentence. The judge replied, " If there were not any receivers of stolen property there would not be any thieves" The judge immediately left the Court, leaving the barrister standing there with his mouth wide open. I know - I was there. Side Comment Re Clay's mention of Sony - was it not alleged they put on these rootkits without people's knowledge and there was a serious security problem with them as well. But then I believe Norton and another company were found to have done a similar thing with their products. I MAY BE WRONG THOUGH. I think Sony had to remove theirs???? or plug the security issue. No litigation please. I think I have made plain where I stand on this WGA issue. This is my opinion. I am not open to persuasion to alter it. Rgds Antioch >I have to wonder just how many people are finding out, much to their >dismay, that the operating system on their computer is not legal. They can [quoted text clipped - 44 lines] >>> Just because the owner of the local hamburger joint is rich doesn't mean >>> he has to "give" away his food - does it? In my opinion, you miss the point which is no more than an effort to prevent plain theft. If you have any material possessions I presume you do exactly the same or those things would soon disappear. Why criticize Microsoft for trying to develope a method to prevent such occurences? EVERY company/person in the world has a procedure/method to prevent theft. They are open with that tool and it just ain't spyware. If your copy of Windows is legitimate just exactly what is the problem? If folks want to know how to remove it from their Computer, I am not going to waste time with them because the next Windows Update they have it again. Too, I think some just want to be advised how to work around that validation tool to hide a pirated version of Windows which is a criminal act for both the advisor and originator in every place in the USA and about every where else in this world. The conversation originator, as I see it, has a problem only with the source who sold/donated the Computer to him; not with me or you or Microsoft. If he/she actually knew the OS copy was not legtimate, he/she will have to purchase a legitimate copy eventually just like you and I in order to solve the problem. The real world is still out there. Gene K I can understand what you're saying but : Why did the S#%T hit the fan when Sony got caught with their Rootkit?? Were they not just trying to keep people from copying CDs? Clay > In my opinion, you miss the point which is no more than an effort to > prevent plain theft. If you have any material possessions I presume you do [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > there. > Gene K Well, I am no expert on the Sony rootkits; however, I think the manner and method they used created the fuss rather than their intent. I think most plainly did not think planting something in their computer files was justified or legal. Sony probably just went to another method to prevent CD copying. Sometimes you have to bow to customer opinion. Hewlett-Packard, for instance, make about seventy percent of their profit each fiscal year from the sale of printer ink cartridges. I do not think they would choose to ignore folks copying their designs and manufacturing methods in order to produce an effective ink cartridge which could be sold cheaper and substantially reduce HPs market share. Even if they did not have a good court case, I would expect them to "lawyer" the competition to death for years and years. Lexmark and Static Control Components have battled in court for years. You just cannot ignore the large profits some products mean to the corporation bottom line. The company board, The CEO, stockholders, and so on down the line want to know what happened when those profits drop substantially and the "moneymaker" product sales are in a severe decline. You and I as stockholders would think about selling shares ahead of further expected decline in the stock price and so would the mutual funds. Gene K Oops, I keep referring to Richard, sorry Richard. my last 2 posts were in reply to Gene K. Jeff > In my opinion, you miss the point which is no more than an effort to > prevent plain theft. If you have any material possessions I presume you do [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > there. > Gene K > Just because the owner of the local hamburger joint is rich doesn't mean > he has to "give" away his food - does it? I would say that he does have a social responsibility. So I disagree. We all have a social responsibility; however, giving something away is a personal choice, not a legal requirement. Plus most rich people [including Bill Gates and his wife] do give large amounts to charity each year. I personally do not think Mr. Gates accumulated all that money and built such a large corporation by being completely stupid. The thread originator got the shaft only from the person he obtained that second computer from and not from me or you or Bill Gates or anybody else. His recourse, as far as I am concerned, should come only from there. If he/she knew exactly in advance what was being obtained, he/she is part of the problem not the solution. SignatureGene K > Thank you all for your contributions > > It's not that I am a thief, as I already have a genuine copy on > my main machine, I thought a second machine just for > internet browsing without the risk of viruses spoiling my > lifetimes work, would be an advantage. Installing your existing copy on a second computer (while still leaving it on the first host) violates the license agreement. You'll have to contact the seller to see if you can get a legit copy of Windows from them (not likely) or go buy the software. Of course, there are alternative operating systems available but you'll have to decide if you can afford the time for the learning curve to acquaint yourself with some version of *NIX. Visit http://www.distrowatch.com for various distributions. Many are free. > A bit nasty minded from Bill Gates however. As if he hasn't > got enough money already. So anyone selling a product should incur losses just because YOU want one for free. Gee, you could steal anything you want from the grocery and retail stores because obviously those companies have made lots of money already. Stop acting like a child. No business is in business to give away its wares for free and expects to stay in business. > Hi Everyone. > I have bought a secondhand machine running Win XP and there is [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > As the machine was cheap, I didn't want to spend anymore on it, does > anyone know how to remove these messages please. You must have had an idea that something was too-good to be true, at least a little idea of it - based on what you've written above. There is no legit way to get around this if you want to keep Windows XP on the machine. There are a couple versions of Linux that should work on your machine and still provide support for most hardware (printers, scanners, etc..), but Linux will require some effort on your part. A OEM Copy of Windows XP/SP2 will cost about $99 for the home edition and about $149 for the Prof edition (USD). You can then do a repair/reinstall and it should change everything needed to make you legit and you should be able to keep all of your other settings, software, data. Signaturespam999free@rrohio.com remove 999 in order to email me Hello, This is my understanding concerning "Illegal" Microsoft OS and other "Products". 1. Microsoft will allow security updates for "Illegal" OS. 2. "Notifier" at this point is voluntary. KB905474. 2a. Use manual updates not auto install, disregard installing KB905474. 3. Once installed cannot be removed using Control Panel - Add/Remove. 4. "Notifier" can be removed using the registry. 5. This will not change Microsoft viewing the OS and other "Products" as "Illegal". 6. This does not stop the ability to use that "Illegal" OS on that unit. Corrections and/or added information appreciated. take care. beamish. > Hi Everyone. > I have bought a secondhand machine running Win XP and there is [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > As the machine was cheap, I didn't want to spend anymore on it, does > anyone know how to remove these messages please. Ah, Voluntary if you know what you're looking for. KB905474 still exhibits "spyware" characteristics as defined by MS own definition of spyware!! Argument still stands. Spyware. How many people know how/or even want to edit the registry? Does MS follow its own definitions? Definitely not!! in regards to this issue. Even try to coerce people into thinking that it is "high priority"! Even if people do pay attention-closely; if you decide NOT to download it.; a visually BRIGHT yellow module is on the updates page; WARNING you that you chose not to download a "high" priority update; and "highly" reccommending that you do install it or your computer may be at risk!! LOL At risk of not being monitored every time you boot up; At risk of MS not being able to track its software. Shall I go on? Legimate purchase of valid software is one thing. Genuine Advantage Validation Tool serves that purpose well. If you have an "illegal" copy of MS software; Genuine Advantage Validation Tool will not allow access to any other "Genuine" MS software. Genuine Advantage Notification; on the other hand;border's on harrassement. Ah but now a moot point in the U.S.; as spying on legitimate customer's and citizen's is seen as not only acceptable;but required! Am not aware of a registry hack that will make that go away! > Hello, > This is my understanding concerning "Illegal" Microsoft OS and other [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] >> As the machine was cheap, I didn't want to spend anymore on it, does >> anyone know how to remove these messages please. Oops, Another person posted the same subject title in xp.newusers. That's where the initial part of my answer was;sorry;however KB905474 IS Spyware! Jeff > Ah, > Voluntary if you know what you're looking for. [quoted text clipped - 41 lines] >>> As the machine was cheap, I didn't want to spend anymore on it, does >>> anyone know how to remove these messages please. Please follow this WGA troubleshooting procedure: 1. Download and install the WGA Diagnostic Tool: http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?linkid=52012 2. After running the WGA Diagnostic Tool, click on the "Validation" tab and then click on "Copy to Clipboard". 3. Next, visit the following website and create a post in the "WGA Validation Problems" forum and paste the results of the WGA Diagnostic Data in your detailed post. http://forums.microsoft.com/Genuine/default.aspx?SiteID=25 4. A WGA troubleshooting specialist will analyze the data and recommend an appropriate solution. SignatureCarey Frisch Microsoft MVP Windows - Shell/User Microsoft Community Newsgroups news://msnews.microsoft.com/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- | Hi Everyone. | I have bought a secondhand machine running Win XP and there is [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] | As the machine was cheap, I didn't want to spend anymore on it, does | anyone know how to remove these messages please. > Hi Everyone. > I have bought a secondhand machine running Win XP and there is [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > As the machine was cheap, I didn't want to spend anymore on it, does > anyone know how to remove these messages please. Contact the seller. It is likely that either you didn't understand that they were just selling the hardware which contained a polluted drive (i.e., they were too lazy to wipe the drive and you are expected to do that) or they lied about including the software (especially if they gave you no installation media). While Microsoft has a forgiveness plan for helping users get licenses for computers where they thought they received a legitimate copy of Windows, you bought a used computer and it was your responsibility to know what you were getting or go after the selling to charge them with fraud. Also see http://snipurl.com/r18c. Signature__________________________________________________ Post replies to the newsgroup. Share with others. For e-mail: Remove "NIX" and add "#VN" to Subject. __________________________________________________ i also had this problem ,but i have done the following: i have win 98 with xp, i boot using 98,search for "wga" and delete the files that iam sure that i have not created be careful when deleting. if you dont have alternate oprtation system, try to take the hard disk to one of your frinds and ask him to search it 4 u it solves my problem,i hope it solves yours |
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