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XP Professional and the server

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Robin Chapple - 29 Jul 2006 10:21 GMT
I am very much a beginner.

I have upgraded to XP Professional in order to have a testing server
for the web pages that I prepare.

I have failed to find a " How to  ..  ..  ." about the server. Where
should I look?

Thanks,

Robin Chapple
Malke - 29 Jul 2006 13:54 GMT
> I am very much a beginner.
>
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> I have failed to find a " How to  ..  ..  ." about the server. Where
> should I look?

What server? Are you talking about IIS? XP can't be a server but it can run
IIS or Apache.

Give us a better idea of what server you mean and what information you need
so you can get focused help.

Malke
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Robin Chapple - 29 Jul 2006 23:01 GMT
I am currently using remote servers to test my web pages. So far pages
have been HTML and only minor changes have been needed when viewed
from the remote server.

I am now using ASP pages and because of my lack of knowledge and the
complexity of the ASP pages I need to make a small change and text it.
This means many visits to the remote site.

I was advised to upgrade to XP Professional so that I could text pages
on my own server.

I am looking for instructions on how to proceed.

Thanks,

Robin Chapple

>> I am very much a beginner.
>>
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>
>Malke
Tom Willett - 29 Jul 2006 23:22 GMT
Purchase and install WinXP Pro.
Read the Help Files.
Visit the IIS newsgroups.

>I am currently using remote servers to test my web pages. So far pages
> have been HTML and only minor changes have been needed when viewed
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>>Malke
Robin Chapple - 30 Jul 2006 08:37 GMT
I have purchased and registered WinXP Pro.

I can find no reference to "Server" in Help.

I will try to find that IIS group

>Purchase and install WinXP Pro.
>Read the Help Files.
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>>>Malke
Leythos - 30 Jul 2006 12:32 GMT
> I have purchased and registered WinXP Pro.
>
> I can find no reference to "Server" in Help.
>
> I will try to find that IIS group

If you want to setup IIS on XP Prof, it's not installed by default, you
have to ADD it in - Control Panel, ADD/Remote Programs, Windows
Components, Internet Information Services (IIS), and select the options
you want.

Keep in mind, most home users running IIS that expose it to the public
get hacked in short order.

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Robin Chapple - 31 Jul 2006 10:34 GMT
I intend to use the server to test my ASP web pages. Does that expose
me to the risk that you have described?

>> I have purchased and registered WinXP Pro.
>>
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>Keep in mind, most home users running IIS that expose it to the public
>get hacked in short order.
Kerry Brown - 31 Jul 2006 14:48 GMT
> I intend to use the server to test my ASP web pages. Does that expose
> me to the risk that you have described?

If the server is on your internal network and incoming web traffic is
blocked at your router then there is minimal risk of the web server being
hacked.

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Malke - 29 Jul 2006 23:42 GMT
> I am currently using remote servers to test my web pages. So far pages
> have been HTML and only minor changes have been needed when viewed
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>
> I am looking for instructions on how to proceed.

I'm assuming you already installed XP Pro. Make sure you installed IIS. Then
go here and start learning. There are links to everything you will need.

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/iis/default.mspx

You can also run Apache (free). http://www.apache.org/

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Robin Chapple - 30 Jul 2006 08:38 GMT
Thanks,

Yes XP Pro is installed.

How do I check if IIS is installed?

Robin

>I'm assuming you already installed XP Pro. Make sure you installed IIS. Then
>go here and start learning. There are links to everything you will need.
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>
>Malke

>> I am currently using remote servers to test my web pages. So far pages
>> have been HTML and only minor changes have been needed when viewed
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>>
>> I am looking for instructions on how to proceed.
Malke - 30 Jul 2006 14:15 GMT
> Thanks,
>
> Yes XP Pro is installed.
>
> How do I check if IIS is installed?

Listen Robin, I'm not saying this to hurt your feelings - really I'm not -
but if you can't even figure out how to find out what's installed on your
computer there is no way you should be running a web server. Running a web
server requires a high level of computer and security skills.

I've looked over the post where you explained what you are doing. Let me get
this right - you are learning to create webpages and you need a place to
test them. Someone who didn't bother to spend any time with you gave you an
off-the-cuff suggestion to upgrade to XP Pro and run your own webserver.

Here's a different suggestion instead - purchase a domain name and a little
place on the web from a reputable web host and make your own little test
site. Don't try to run your own webserver. This is way beyond you and
unnecessary. Again, please understand that I am not saying this to hurt
your feelings.

For instance, I've been extremely happy with my web hosting company for many
years. Their basic package is $6/month and they'll register your domain
name for $15. This would probably be adequate for you. Here's the link:

http://www.hostingmatters.com/web_hosting.html

I'm not advertising for them and I get nothing for recommending them; I just
think this is a better solution for you. With someone else doing the web
hosting, all you'll need to do is create your webpages, upload them to your
site on the hosting company's server, and see how they look in your varous
browsers.

Malke
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Kerry Brown - 30 Jul 2006 15:40 GMT
> Thanks,
>
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>>>
>>> I am looking for instructions on how to proceed.

I agree with Malke. You would be better off with a web server hosted by
someone else. This gives you real world testing. Unless you know exactly
what you are doing, developing a web site on the computer hosting the web
server can often cause problems. The site may run fine on your web server
but because of hard coded paths and other common coding mistakes it won't
run when you upload to another server so all your testing was a waste of
time. If you want to go this route and run your own web server for testing
then you should dedicate a computer on your network to the web server and do
the development on another computer.

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Robin Chapple - 31 Jul 2006 10:41 GMT
Thanks for all the input.

It seems that the problem is in the advice received when I started ASP
pages. Quite unequivocal that I should test on my own server not on
the remote server.

I have been running several web sites on a variety of hosted sites for
more than ten years so I take your advice seriously. I will not be
installing IIS.

Thanks again.

>> Thanks,
>>
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>then you should dedicate a computer on your network to the web server and do
>the development on another computer.
 
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