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Windows Forum / Windows XP / Customization / August 2006How increase delay between linked keystrokes in Win Exp?
When I want to find a file in Windows Explorer I can key in its first letter to take the focus to the first file whose name starts with that letter. In a big folder like C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32 I might want to key in the first two letters of the filename. If I am fast I can key in three letters. How can I increase the time interval between these linked keystrokes so they are all seen as part of the same filename request? From Windows Explorer tool bar select Search. Or, go to the Start button and select Search  Signature--------------------- Bob E. > When I want to find a file in Windows Explorer I can key in its first > letter to take the focus to the first file whose name starts with that [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > How can I increase the time interval between these linked keystrokes so > they are all seen as part of the same filename request? OR, if you just leave it on in the background you will get the desired slowdown you asked for. <VBG> > From Windows Explorer tool bar select Search. Or, go to the Start button > and select Search Hello Bob. I wonder if you are replying to the right thread? I asked about shortening the delay between keystrokes. WinExp is only one example of an aplication where this is useful. You mention using search but that is a different thing. Andy > From Windows Explorer tool bar select Search. Or, go to the Start > button and select Search > > --------------------- > Bob E. > "Andy" <nomail@nomail.com> wrote in message >> [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >> keystrokes so they are all seen as part of the same filename >> request? Then I have no idea what you are referring too. Signature--------------------- Bob E. > Hello Bob. > [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] >>> keystrokes so they are all seen as part of the same filename >>> request? If you are referring to, in WinExp just typing a letter, I consider this a jump key. In a long list of file and/or directories I want to get to the "W's" I would type the letter W. If I want to search for a file or directory I would go to the Search Button. Here I can type the full name of the file or directory or just part of the name. Signature--------------------- Bob E. > Hello Bob. > [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] >>> keystrokes so they are all seen as part of the same filename >>> request? Typing two or even three "jump keys" is quicker than scrolling or Searching. Of course, it's all a matter of what one is used to doing. Doing something that you do all of the time is always quicker than learning something new. With Windows there is almost always more than one way of doing almost anything. Take Display Properties, for example. Classic Control Panel Start Menu | Settings | Control Panel | Display XP Control Panel Start Menu | Settings | Control Panel | Appearance and Themes | Change the computer's theme Right click Desktop | Properties Start | Run | Type: desk.cpl | Click OK Windows key + R | Type: desk.cpl | Enter key Windows key + R | Type: control desktop | Enter key SignatureHope this helps. Let us know. Wes MS-MVP Windows Shell/User > If you are referring to, in WinExp just typing a letter, I consider this a > jump key. In a long list of file and/or directories I want to get to the [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] >>>> keystrokes so they are all seen as part of the same filename >>>> request? This feature is designed to find the first character you type. It's not designed to find a complete file name. Alex S. points this out in his example. Signature--------------------- Bob E. > Typing two or even three "jump keys" is quicker than scrolling or > Searching. [quoted text clipped - 65 lines] >>>>> keystrokes so they are all seen as part of the same filename >>>>> request? I do not care how it was designed. If you can type fast, you can get three characters. I use two or three all of the time. Even in System32, which loads immediately, by the way. The OP, Andy, can also get three characters quite often. You can use it however you like. SignatureHope this helps. Let us know. Wes MS-MVP Windows Shell/User > This feature is designed to find the first character you type. It's not > designed to find a complete file name. Alex S. points this out in his [quoted text clipped - 80 lines] >>>>>> keystrokes so they are all seen as part of the same filename >>>>>> request? > Even in System32, which loads immediately, by the way. Do you have an (active) virus scanner or are you running a high-end system (which most people don't have)? SignatureAlec S. news/alec->synetech/cjb/net Yes. AVG 7.1.405, free version. Loaded Modules: avgabout.dll, avgamsvr.exe, avgcc.exe, avgcckrn.dll, avgcfg.dll, avgctrl.dll, avgf.dll, avgklib.dll,avglng.dll, avglog.dll, avgrep.dll, avgres.dll, avgscan.dll, avgse.dll, avgset.dll, avgtest.dll, avgtmgr.dll, avgtres.dll, avgunarc.dll and avgvault.dll High-end system? ROTFL It was when I bought it in October of 1998. Gateway G6-450. Processor x86 Family 6 Model 5 Stepping 2 GenuineIntel ~447 Mhz BIOS Version/Date Intel Corp. 4W4SB0X0.15A.0019.P14, 09-May-00 Total Physical Memory 384.00 MB Microsoft Windows XP Professional. Version: 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 Build 2600 SignatureHope this helps. Let us know. Wes MS-MVP Windows Shell/User >> Even in System32, which loads immediately, by the way. > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Alec S. > news/alec->synetech/cjb/net Forgot this. System32 Properties. Size: 920 MB (965,040,685 bytes) Size on disk: 931 MB (977,227,776 bytes) Contains: 6,406 Files, 180 Folders SignatureHope this helps. Let us know. Wes MS-MVP Windows Shell/User > Yes. AVG 7.1.405, free version. > [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] >> Alec S. >> news/alec->synetech/cjb/net > Forgot this. > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Size on disk: 931 MB (977,227,776 bytes) > Contains: 6,406 Files, 180 Folders Uh, uh, that includes subfolders and their files which aren't loaded when you view it. :p System32 should have around 2,300 files and a few dozen folders. SignatureAlec S. news/alec->synetech/cjb/net My System32 folder actually has 1,992 files not including any subfolders. My System32 folder actually has 35 folders in it not including any of their subfolders. And this POS is empty C:\WINDOWS\system32\SoftwareDistribution I empty it after every Update Tuesday. SignatureHope this helps. Let us know. Wes MS-MVP Windows Shell/User >> Forgot this. >> [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > Alec S. > news/alec->synetech/cjb/net > My System32 folder actually has 1,992 files not including any subfolders. > My System32 folder actually has 35 folders in it not including any of their subfolders. Are you running SP1? SP2? Gold? I'm running SP1, Office 2003, VS.NET 2003, several other large apps, and ATI drivers. I haven't checked but I'm guessing that the System32 from a fresh install is significantly smaller—although it SHOULDN'T be, apps should not be putting stuff in the _SYSTEM_ folders. :| > And this POS is empty > C:\WINDOWS\system32\SoftwareDistribution > > I empty it after every Update Tuesday. Hmmm, I've got just one little thing in there, but my C:\Windows\SoftwareDistribution has 30 files taking up 20.8MB (99.99% of that is DataStore.edb). I delete the files in C:\Windows\SoftwareDistribution\Download, but the rest look important. SignatureAlec S. news/alec->synetech/cjb/net OS Name Microsoft Windows XP Professional Version 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 Build 2600 Not a fresh install, been on this machine since 18-Feb-04, 9:34:24 AM. I also have MS Word 2002, the only MS Office item. I do not have ANY of the .NET crap. Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600] (C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp. C:\>systeminfo Host Name: MYPENTIUM450 OS Name: Microsoft Windows XP Professional OS Version: 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 Build 2600 OS Manufacturer: Microsoft Corporation OS Configuration: Standalone Workstation OS Build Type: Uniprocessor Free Registered Owner: Wesley P. Vogel Registered Organization: Home Computer Product ID: xxx Original Install Date: 18-Feb-04, 9:34:24 AM System Up Time: 0 Days, 10 Hours, 39 Minutes, 11 Seconds System Manufacturer: Gateway System Model: G6-450 System type: X86-based PC Processor(s): 1 Processor(s) Installed. [01]: x86 Family 6 Model 5 Stepping 2 GenuineIntel ~447 Mhz <snip> Yes, apps can place items in System32. I have four .ocx files from a program in System32. I am not going to look for more. DataStore.edb will get created again when you visit Windows Updates. DataStore.edb probably cannot be deleted with Automatic Updates running, which I keep Disabled except for on Update Tuesdays. The only down side that I see to deleting all of that crap from SoftwareDistribution is that Windows Updates takes longer. It has to load all of the crap again. But since SP1 is about to go unsupported, sod 'em. ARCserveIT 6.61 does not successfully back up files that are in the %Windir%\SoftwareDistribution folder of your Windows XP SP2-based computer http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=870904 You cannot back up the %windir%\SoftwareDistribution folder by using the NovaStor NovaNet-WEB backup program on Windows XP Service Pack 2 http://support.microsoft.com/kb/870902 *.esb = Exchange Data Base files. esent.dll is the Server Database Storage Engine. Automatic Updates (wuauclt.exe) & Windows Update AutoUpdate Engine (wuaueng.dll) use it. Windows Update AutoUpdate Engine (wuaueng.dll) Event Type: Information Event Source: ESENT Event Category: General Event ID: 100 Date: 11/9/2004 Time: 11:54:52 AM User: N/A Computer: MYPENTIUM450 Description: wuauclt (476) The database engine 5.01.2600.0000 started. Event Type: Information Event Source: ESENT Event Category: General Event ID: 102 Date: 11/9/2004 Time: 11:54:52 AM User: N/A Computer: MYPENTIUM450 Description: wuaueng.dll (476) SUS20ClientDataStore: The database engine started a new instance (0). Event Source: ESENT Event Category: General Event ID: 101 Date: 11/9/2004 Time: 12:00:26 PM User: N/A Computer: MYPENTIUM450 Description: wuauclt (476) The database engine stopped. Event Type: Information Event Source: ESENT Event Category: General Event ID: 103 Date: 11/9/2004 Time: 12:00:26 PM User: N/A Computer: MYPENTIUM450 Description: wuaueng.dll (476) SUS20ClientDataStore: The database engine stopped the instance (0). SignatureHope this helps. Let us know. Wes MS-MVP Windows Shell/User >> My System32 folder actually has 1,992 files not including any subfolders. >> My System32 folder actually has 35 folders in it not including any of [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > Alec S. > news/alec->synetech/cjb/net > The only down side that I see to deleting all of that crap from > SoftwareDistribution is that Windows Updates takes longer. It has to load > all of the crap again. I agree, it takes forever for Microsoft Update to load these days. That's why I don't bother with updates until they've piled up enough (I don't really need them right away anyway, I've got so much security software that I can let patches slip for quite a while. If there's something that's super-duper, hyper, mega critical, I'll know about it one way or another and will update, otherwise, meh.) > But since SP1 is about to go unsupported, sod 'em. Again, I agree. If Vista comes with a WMP >8 (9+), then I'm not going to get it. lol ;) Hmmm, what else did I hate about SP2, I don't remember anymore… SignatureAlec S. news/alec->synetech/cjb/net I have Windows Media Player 6.4.9.1125 and 9.0.0.2980. As far as I remember XP SP1 came with both. C:\Program Files\Windows Media Player\mplayer2.exe 6.4.9.1125 C:\Program Files\Windows Media Player\wmplayer.exe 9.0.0.2980 Nope. I'm wrong. XP SP1 came with Windows Media Player 6.4.9.1125 and 8.0.0.4490 C:\WINDOWS\RegisteredPackages\{B3C1B200-8F14-4C49-96D3-67425AD59914}\wmplaye r.exe8.0.0.4490 Must have updated to WMP9 along the way. Yup, 10 September, 2004. I think that Windows Vista comes with WMP10. SignatureHope this helps. Let us know. Wes MS-MVP Windows Shell/User >> The only down side that I see to deleting all of that crap from >> SoftwareDistribution is that Windows Updates takes longer. It has to [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > Alec S. > news/alec->synetech/cjb/net > I have Windows Media Player 6.4.9.1125 and 9.0.0.2980. As far as I remember > XP SP1 came with both. [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > I think that Windows Vista comes with WMP10. Yes, Vista will come with at least 10, if not 11 (it will also come with DX10). XP comes with WMP8, SP1 merely patches it, and SP2 forces an upgrade to 9; that's a large part of why I avoid SP2 (there were a few others). SignatureAlec S. news/alec->synetech/cjb/net As far as I know type real quick. If you can type fast, you can get two or even three letters to work. If I plan on trying to use three characters, I pay real close attention and type like a house on fire. If in Open/Save As dialogs, Focus needs to be in View pane, not in the File Name box. I discovered this by accident. Open Windows Explorer, Click the Folders button to display the Folders pane; make sure that Focus is in the left hand pane, press the D key. The first folder that starts with D will be highlighted. Press P, the first folder that starts with P will be highlighted, etc. Click somewhere in the right hand pane to give it Focus, press a letter key. You can work your way up and down through all the files or folders of any folder this way. Number keys also work if the first character of the file or folder name is a number. On the Start Menu pressing a letter key will also move the focus to folders or shortcuts that have been added, not just to the items with underlined characters. Pressing a key in some folders on the Start Menu doesn't highlight the shortcut; it actually is the same as clicking the link. If there is only one item that begins with a particular letter, pressing that letter starts the program that the shortcut links to. Otherwise you have to press Enter after highlighting a shortcut to start that program. If it's a folder, once it's highlighted, pressing Enter will open the folder. Also works in Favorites. SignatureHope this helps. Let us know. Wes MS-MVP Windows Shell/User > When I want to find a file in Windows Explorer I can key in its first > letter to take the focus to the first file whose name starts with that [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > How can I increase the time interval between these linked keystrokes so > they are all seen as part of the same filename request? Hi Wes. Seems as if you work like me by using starting letters. Be nice to vary that speed. I ownder if it is related to the typematic delay. Must check that out some day. Andy > As far as I know type real quick. > [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > Wes > MS-MVP Windows Shell/User > Andy <nomail@nomail.com> hunted and pecked: >> [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >> keystrokes so they are all seen as part of the same filename >> request? Hi Andy, I have nothing that will help except, type real quick to get three characters. I looked at Keyboard Properties... Start | Run | Type: control keyboard | Click OK You can adjust the rate at which a character is repeated when you hold down a key, and the time delay before it starts repeating. You can also adjust the blink rate of the insertion point. Repeat delay [[Adjusts the amount of time that elapses before a character begins to repeat when you hold down a key. To change the repeat delay, drag the slider.]] Repeat rate [[Adjusts the speed at which a character repeats when you hold down a key. To change the repeat rate, drag the slider.]] Cursor blink rate [[Adjusts the speed at which the cursor (or insertion point) blinks. To change the cursor blink rate, drag the slider. To prevent the cursor from blinking, drag the slider to the left end of the bar.]] These are the only other keyboard options that I know of. The accessibility tools available in Accessibility Options in Control Panel perform various functions. * StickyKeys enables simultaneous keystrokes while pressing one key at a time. StickyKeys is designed for people who have difficulty holding down two or more keys simultaneously. When a shortcut requires a key combination, such as CTRL+P, StickyKeys will enable you to press a modifier key (CTRL, ALT, or SHIFT), or the Windows logo key and have it remain active until another key is pressed. * FilterKeys adjusts the response of your keyboard. FilterKeys is a keyboard feature that instructs the keyboard to ignore brief or repeated keystrokes. Using FilterKeys, you can also slow the rate at which a key repeats when you hold it down. * ToggleKeys emits sounds when certain locking keys are pressed. Accessibility Options... Start | Run | Type: access.cpl | Click OK SignatureHope this helps. Let us know. Wes MS-MVP Windows Shell/User > Hi Wes. Seems as if you work like me by using starting letters. > [quoted text clipped - 46 lines] >>> keystrokes so they are all seen as part of the same filename >>> request? > When I want to find a file in Windows Explorer I can key in its first > letter to take the focus to the first file whose name starts with that [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > How can I increase the time interval between these linked keystrokes so > they are all seen as part of the same filename request? Hold on, what is the problem? It sounds like you are experiencing something that bugs me all the time. What happens? Something like this?: You want to get to the mshtmled.dll file, You open system32, You type m-s-h-t… to jump to the file, You expect to be at or near mshtml*.* but instead, Windows jumps to m*.*, then s*.*, then h*.* and so on. Is this the sort of thing that you're talking about? If so, there's really nothing you can do about it. It's not because you are typing too slow, but because Windows is populating the file-list too slow. When you open a folder like system32 which has thousands of files, it takes a while for it to read all the files and display the appropriate icon (especially for things like EXE files which contain their icon and so have to be read). The best way around this is to just wait until the folder is loaded (the drive light will stop flashing). Then you can jump to any file as normal. SignatureAlec S. news/alec->synetech/cjb/net > Is this the sort of thing that you're talking about? If so, there's really nothing you can do about it. It's not because you are > typing too slow, but because Windows is populating the file-list too slow. (Actually if you type too slowly, say two or three seconds between key presses, then it will do this as well. There is a threshold where if you press keys before the interval of time has elapsed, it will be considered as part of the sequence and will continue the previous action—in this case, the letter will continue to be part of the filename. If the time interval has elapsed without a keypress, the sequence will be voided, and the next keypress will be the beginning of a new sequence which in this case would cause Windows to jump to a file STARTING with that letter. Of course like I said, that threshold is on the order of a few seconds, so any normal typing would not cause it to happen (unless the user is handicapped, in which case there are accessibility functions to allow for that) but could still happen if Windows is bogged down, loading and reading thousands of files since it takes a while for it to read your keypresses because it's so busy.) SignatureAlec S. news/alec->synetech/cjb/net |
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