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Windows Forum / Windows XP / Games / October 2006Column: Getting Older Games to Run on Windows XP
New Column: Gaming writer Joel Durham describes how to use the Program Compatibility Wizard, search for user-created fixes, find product updates and patches, and introduces a couple of tools that can help improve your gaming experience. http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/games/expert/durham_og.mspx Ask questions or post comments about the article here. This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.  SignatureKathie Werner Tech editor, vendor [MS] My reply is at the bottom of your sent message: > New Column: Gaming writer Joel Durham describes how to use the Program > Compatibility Wizard, search for user-created fixes, find product [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no > rights. It's well written. Bookmarked and scanned but not completely "read" if you know what I mean. Thanks for the link. Galen SignatureSignature changed for a moment of silence. Rest well Alex and we'll see you on the other side. I have sucessfully been able to run every ms-dos program I have ever owned - lots of games -including transmitter/satellite receiver programs to work on XP-Which is critical as broadcast transmitters will be around for 20-30 years of life. I have had one problem I can't fix..... In Duke Nukem 2, I can have it say "he's back" during the intro by telling it that it is sound blaster and restarting, or I can hear the guns shoot if set to PC speaker and restart---Is there anyway to fool it into doing both? The pc sounds are not handled by soundblaster when sound blaster is selected. > My reply is at the bottom of your sent message: > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Galen My reply is at the bottom of your sent message: > I have sucessfully been able to run every ms-dos program I have ever > owned - lots of games -including transmitter/satellite receiver [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > pc sounds are not handled by soundblaster when sound blaster is > selected. If the advice on the page didn't help with that one particular game you can always take a peek here: DOSBox, a x86 emulator with DOS: http://dosbox.sourceforge.net/ Galen SignatureSignature changed for a moment of silence. Rest well Alex and we'll see you on the other side. any idea how i can get super streetfighter 2 turbo to run on windows xp? your help would be appreciated. > I have sucessfully been able to run every ms-dos program I have ever owned - > lots of games -including transmitter/satellite receiver programs to work on [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > > > > Galen VDM sound 2 worked, thanks... > My reply is at the bottom of your sent message: > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Galen Thanks for you article - however I'm still having problems getting older programs to run. Actually they were running just fine on XP SP2 until about 3 weeks ago. The only thing I've changed is installing MS Antispyware (an amazing product!!) The error mesage I get is this: C:\windows\system32\autoexec.nt. The system file is not suitable for running MS-DOS and Microsoft Windows applications. Choose 'Close' to terminate the application. Dialog box title is '16 bit Windows Subsystem' And the application won't run at all. The one I really want to run is an older version of Paradox - the first Windows version - designed for 3.1. I have one other game designed for 3.1 which also won't run, Riverboat Solitaire. I have gone thru all your steps and they do not have any effect. Do you have any suggestions? I don't think it's the Antispyware as I have that on another computer running XP SP1 and they run fine. Thanks! Nevermind I figured it out. > Thanks for you article - however I'm still having problems getting older > programs to run. Actually they were running just fine on XP SP2 until about 3 [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > any suggestions? I don't think it's the Antispyware as I have that on another > computer running XP SP1 and they run fine. Thanks! Bettylou, Your problem is the same as my problem but I haven't figured it out! What do I do? > Nevermind I figured it out. > [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > any suggestions? I don't think it's the Antispyware as I have that on another > > computer running XP SP1 and they run fine. Thanks! This is the knowledge base article http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;324767 just reinstall the 3 files as directed and it works fine. Once I ran a search on autoexec.nt and 16 bit the correct results came up. good luck bettylou The answer is here http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;324767 just reinstall the 3 files and you are set. good luck bettylou > Bettylou, > Your problem is the same as my problem but I haven't figured it out! What > do I do? > > > Nevermind I figured it out. Thanks! Worked well! > The answer is here > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;324767 [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > > > > Nevermind I figured it out. > New Column: Gaming writer Joel Durham describes how to use the Program > Compatibility Wizard, search for user-created fixes, find product updates and [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Ask questions or post comments about the article here. > This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. hi, i have tried everything you suggested and big thank you to > Bettylou, for helping me with reinstalling the lost files. anyway, everytime i try to start up the game (destruction derby 2) i keep getting a message saying Destruction Derby 2 disc required.....HELP?!?!! Hi Ash, If you could start your own thread describing your problem, it will make it a lot easier for folks to be able to help you. :-) SignatureCheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com Visit my MSN Zone.com and Gaming Help Site: http://mvps.org/nibblesnbits MS Games Help and Support Center: http://support.microsoft.com/?pr=gms My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights. _________________________________________________________ | > New Column: Gaming writer Joel Durham describes how to use the Program | > Compatibility Wizard, search for user-created fixes, find product updates and [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] | hi, i have tried everything you suggested and big thank you to | > Bettylou, for helping me with reinstalling the lost files. anyway, everytime i try to start up the game (destruction derby 2) i keep getting a message saying Destruction Derby 2 disc required.....HELP?!?!! I've been trying to get my old "Readysoft" Space Ace to run under WinXP Pro. I used Joel Durham's artcle to create a shortcut with the expanded memory that it said to needed, but when I launch that shortcut an initial screen comes up (yellow text on black background prompting me to set 1. Sound ON or OFF 2. Frame Rate AUTO, 12 or 6 3. Fine tune to system YES or NO 4. INPUT Keyboard or Joystick I chose ON, AUTO, YES, and Keyboard It then displayed a "Fine Tuning" screen with a status bar to indicate progress, which quickly jumped to approx.1/10th done and started to play sound bites (good quality) of approx. 2 secs then 10 to 15 secs of silence then 2 secs. of sound bite (different dialog), etc. the status bar never moved again and I let that go for approx 20 mins. Thinking it was in a loop, I hit Esc Everything cleared and I was back on my win XP desk top. > New Column: Gaming writer Joel Durham describes how to use the Program > Compatibility Wizard, search for user-created fixes, find product updates and [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Ask questions or post comments about the article here. > This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. Thanks for thr reply Kathie, but I was aware of Joel's article and had aready tried his suggestions and as I described, this is as far as I could go. I guess it's just not going to work. Thanks anyway. John > I've been trying to get my old "Readysoft" Space Ace to run under WinXP Pro. > I used Joel Durham's artcle to create a shortcut with the expanded memory [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > Ask questions or post comments about the article here. > > This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. I am trying to get my old CD of Activision's MechWarrior 2 to run on WIndows XP SP2. I tried messing with the compatability modes, and that just gets me a black screen. I tried CPUKiller3 and that only did the same thing, but slower. Does anyone know how to get this program to run on XP? > New Column: Gaming writer Joel Durham describes how to use the Program > Compatibility Wizard, search for user-created fixes, find product updates and [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Ask questions or post comments about the article here. > This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. to run MechWarrior 2 check out netmech.org it has been fixed. Has anyone had any luck getting "Tetris Worlds" to work? I purchased the game from Circuity City for my wife as a stocking stuffer. The website for CC says that it is XP compatible, but when I received the game, it did not list XP as a compatible OS. I installed and ran it and I get the THQ logo and the sound cuts out and the game freezes on the logo. I can get my mouse pointer back, but ctrl-alt-del does not work. I have to reboot. I emailed THQ and they basically told me the same stuff this article mentions. I tried the compatiblilty wizard with various combos of each OS and I get the same result. THQ's website has a support link for Tetris Worlds, but it is broken. So are all the support links for the other versions "XBox, Gamecube, etc." This game came out in 2001 or 2002. It seems like we should be able to get it working? I am running XP SP2 on a AMD Athlon 64 with 1 gig of RAM. I have a eVGA 6600gt 128 meg video card and RealTek 97 on board 7 channel audio. Thanks for any help in advance! Greg > New Column: Gaming writer Joel Durham describes how to use the Program > Compatibility Wizard, search for user-created fixes, find product updates and [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Ask questions or post comments about the article here. > This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. Most of the "older" games will run perfectly well on Windows XP. Some need to use Compatibility Mode (details are in Help and Support), and this TechNet article will help you: http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/winxppro/maintain/lgcyapps.mspx Basically, what Compatibility Mode does is allow the older program to "think" it is being installed on the operating system for which it was designed. You also need to pay attention to the game's requirements, and some need to be installed using Compatibility starting with the installation itself by going to Start/Run/Browse and locating the install.exe or setup.exe file on the root of the CD. You can right-click that file, follow the pattern to use Compatibility Mode and have it install. After the install, make sure to update the program from the web site of the creator, then right-click the icon you'll use to launch the game and make sure the proper Compatibility settings are ready. You also need to make sure the proper display and color settings are selected. SignatureChris H. Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/ Associate Expert Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone > Has anyone had any luck getting "Tetris Worlds" to work? I purchased the > game from Circuity City for my wife as a stocking stuffer. The website [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] >> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no >> rights. Thanks for the response. The only thing you mentioned that I have not tried is running the setup executible it's self in compatibility mode. I will try that and see what happens. As far as THQ is concerned, they have absolutely nothing as far as support goes on their website for this game. The email I got back from their support team suggests the stuff we are trying here with the compatibility wizard, etc. Thanks Again! Greg > Most of the "older" games will run perfectly well on Windows XP. Some need > to use Compatibility Mode (details are in Help and Support), and this [quoted text clipped - 52 lines] > >> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no > >> rights. Please excuse me if this post is in the wrong place, I am new to these message boards. I have an old game that I wanted to try to play. In the 1st Degree, it is a 2 cd multi-platform (windows 95 and mac). These are the orginal game disks I purchased in 1995. The problem is that when I put the disk in the CD drive it won't install. When I check the properties it appears that the disk is blank. When I try to use Run from the start menu I get a format error that states "Windows cannot read from this disk. The disk might be corrupted, or it could be using a format that is not compatible with windows". I have already updated all the drivers, and I cleaned the disk. My CD drive works fine with all my other cd's. I tried to run in compatibility, however it read the disk either. I don't think that the disk is corrupted,because a friend could run it on his mac. Any help would be great. > New Column: Gaming writer Joel Durham describes how to use the Program > Compatibility Wizard, search for user-created fixes, find product updates and [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Ask questions or post comments about the article here. > This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. Hi Ron, I'll respond to your 2nd post.. hope it helps. Ron Wrote: ================= | Please excuse me if this post is in the wrong place, I am new to these | message boards. [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] || Kathie Werner || Tech editor, vendor [MS] I need some help with command window. When I try to play game in full screen mode, It appears in small window and leaves a big black screen around. Its like, it appears in small screen centered. > New Column: Gaming writer Joel Durham describes how to use the Program > Compatibility Wizard, search for user-created fixes, find product updates and [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Ask questions or post comments about the article here. > This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. Hi Jignesh, Are you playing the game on a laptop? If so, what make and model? SignatureCheers, *Windows_XP_MVP_Shell/User* Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com Visit my MSN Games and Windows Gaming Help Site: www.msce.mvps.org MS Games Help and Support Center: http://support.microsoft.com/?pr=gms My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights. _________________________________________________________ Jignesh Wrote: ================= | I need some help with command window. When I try to play game in full | screen mode, It appears in small window and leaves a big black screen around. [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] || Kathie Werner || Tech editor, vendor [MS] I have been trying to run a game called Caesar 3 on XP proffesional, but despite my efforts with the compatability wizard, all i get is a message saying it is not a valid 32 bit application. Can u help? > New Column: Gaming writer Joel Durham describes how to use the Program > Compatibility Wizard, search for user-created fixes, find product updates and [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Ask questions or post comments about the article here. > This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. Hi bob, It's possible that you will need to log on using an Administrator account in order to get Ceasar III to run on your system even using compatibility mode: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/307091 SignatureCheers, *Windows_XP_MVP_Shell/User* Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com Visit my MSN Games and Windows Gaming Help Site: www.msce.mvps.org MS Games Help and Support Center: http://support.microsoft.com/?pr=gms My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights. _________________________________________________________ bob Wrote: ================= | I have been trying to run a game called Caesar 3 on XP proffesional, but | despite my efforts with the compatability wizard, all i get is a message [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] || Kathie Werner || Tech editor, vendor [MS] > I have been trying to run a game called Caesar 3 on XP proffesional, > but despite my efforts with the compatability wizard, all i get is a > message saying it is not a valid 32 bit application. Can u help? It runs fine without compatibility mode on my XP Pro. The only time I get 'not valid Win32 app' is when the file ityself is corrupted. Maybe your Caesar 3 CD needs cleaning? Signature-- * BBBBBBOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLOOOOOOOCCCCCCCKKKKKKKSSSSSSSS!!!!!!! Yahoo: evilbill_agqx Web: http://www.evilbill.org.uk Afraid this is bad news for the originating poster. The file is corrupt. You need to get another copy. I have gotten that error when an antivirus program stripped a virus from the program. I have gotten that error when I copied the exe file without zipping it first, and I corrupted it during the copy process. I have uninstalled files under Windows 98 and then corrupted them when I copied them onto XP or started using them in XP even though they had been installed and copied under 98 on a Fat32 drive. There are several ways and reasons the file can go bad, but you are not going to get around that valid win 32 problem unless you get another working copy. >> I have been trying to run a game called Caesar 3 on XP proffesional, >> but despite my efforts with the compatability wizard, all i get is a [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > The only time I get 'not valid Win32 app' is when the file ityself is > corrupted. Maybe your Caesar 3 CD needs cleaning? Help !!!! theres 50 of us that run a game called dirt track racing sprint cars.......its a win 98 or me game ...but in XP...it will play fine in single player mode............but in multiplayer..it will not..........it will throw pep out at random ....get error code key chat line not found under section network game in shell store please help |
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